Chapter Tactics #186: Terrain Troubles in 9th Edition

Today Pablo, Skari, and Sean talk about the ideal terrain setup and terrain tactics in 9th edition. They also go over a tournament matchup between Death Guard and Harlequins.

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7 Responses to “Chapter Tactics #186: Terrain Troubles in 9th Edition”

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    Rob Butcher December 1, 2020 6:45 am #

    How is GW terrain and four cardboard games boards unavailable to most gamers/TOs ?

    And the Core Rules book has pretty clear illustrations. Not every-one will limit competitors to allow for wonderful terrain on a couple of dozen tables as SN do in Gibraltar for “No Retreat”, but good layouts are achievable.

    Glad the FLG “magic box” and the other individual TOs rules have gone.

    I just hope that the L-shaped buildings in the middle of the board (Nova style) aren’t seen on every table.

    5 1/2″ is a good height for the larger pieces of terrain as rules cover this.

    • Michael Corr
      Michael Corr December 1, 2020 3:02 pm #

      They aren’t unavailable, but it is pretty damn expensive to supply an entire tournament will all GW terrain. I love their stuff, but it is not the cheapest!

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      abusepuppy December 1, 2020 7:50 pm #

      >How is GW terrain and four cardboard games boards unavailable to most gamers/TOs ?

      Well, let’s take a look at things. In order to achieve the ~30% terrain density that we recommend during the show- and since you haven’t taken issue with that I assume you don’t think we’re incorrect there- how many pieces would be needed for a 2000pt game? Let’s assume you pick a variety of terrain types, with a mix of larger and smaller pieces.

      So that would be roughly four large buildings, three small buildings, three sets of obstacles, and three forest/craters. Each of the large buildings needs a kit to itself- bought from GW, these are going to be US$80 or so each (e.g. the Sanctum Administratus.) The smaller buildings we can make multiple of from a kit, so let’s say two Imperialis Administratum kits ($64 each) for the three of them. Three sets of Munitorum Containers ($55) cover our obstacles easily, and three sets of Woods ($54) will similarly cover our area terrain needs.

      That is a total of $695 dollars, and we have not yet factored in the game table itself, any variations in terrain for uniqueness’ sake, or the painting supplies needed to finish all of this. Let’s pretend those costs don’t exist, and say that your typical RTT wants to use this setup for its ten tables- that is seven grand, an absolutely prohibitive amount of money for a store of that size. GW terrain simply is not an option for anyone who wants to make tables in significant numbers.

      (Note that the battlezone terrain, as you suggest, is NOT enough for playing a game with the 30% recommendation- not even if you buy a pair of them. You would need probably four kits together to make a standard 2K table, which comes to a cool $600 but has far less terrain variety.)

      • Michael Corr
        Michael Corr December 2, 2020 2:56 am #

        Yeah, but with the 20% discount, that is only about $560 per table. That’s only an additional $280 on the usual ticket price to charge competitors. It’s like some TO’s aren’t even trying!

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          abusepuppy December 2, 2020 8:14 am #

          yes but something something something Games Workshop tournaments, therefore you are wrong

          • Michael Corr
            Michael Corr December 2, 2020 8:36 am
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            Yes, but have you considered covid, covid, covid, no events worth talking about, Frontline Gaming and other TOs ruining the game, Games Workshop tournaments???

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            abusepuppy December 2, 2020 11:11 pm
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            Damn, you’ve got me on that one!

            …But wait, you used the words “Games Workshop” without the express permission of Games Workshop, that is a violation of their copyright and therefore AHKCHUALLY I am the winner!

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