GW Grognard: The Pendulum(hatchet) Swings again

Hey everyone! Adam, from TFG Radio, here to to speak of  the dearly departed.

I have seen many codexes come and go over the years. Whether they were from supplements for world wide campaigns, or a brand new race never seen before, there has always been a constant flow of new army books. With every new edition of the game we would, most of the time, get a new army codex that would bring that army into the current edition.  This is actually the first edition that I can remember that all of the armies have their own codex. We are also at the point where we are starting to see armies get a second edition of their codex and see many of the more obscure armies get a mini-dex in the issues of White Dwarf. I even bought a subscription because of it! What we are also starting to see is a re-imagining of some armies and/or  units. in this case I am talking about Ynnari.

The good old days

For those that have been playing for multiple editions, they have seen this scenario before. An army does really well and maybe doesn’t totally dominate the game but they do affect the enjoyment of the game for many people. It may not be the intent of the rules writers but we all know the examples of the past that many veteran gamers lament about to this day (myself included). What Games workshop would do is correct it by toning down the army so much so that they are really not competitive anymore on almost any level. In the past because of the production cycle of the time, this could takes months, if not years before an army was toned down.When they did, they usually got hit hard with the nerf bat. This seems to be the case with Ynnari. The recent minidex has taken the army to do a 180 in how they are to be played effectively in tournament play. It seems to be more of an assault army, as opposed to the shooting army they are typically seen as. As a result, many players are stuck on where to go next and some are in such a shell shocked state that they immediately put up their  armies for sale as soon as they read the leaked images. I’ll buy all Eldar armies for $50, no questions asked, BTW.

So what is a person to do when Games Workshop cuts your army,  well your playstyle really, off at the knees?  A lot of players just quit. As I mentioned earlier, there are already a number of Ynnari armies for sale. These are usually players that are “chasing the dragon” or just too lazy to try and see if they can make the army work. Now there are players that will at least give it a try and hopefully fins some new secret sauce to keep the army competitive. These players are the true followers of Ynnead. They will look in the different codexes and try out new things and see what sticks. It can be both fun and frustrating, but to be honest more on the frustrating side. This is all part of the healing process of having your faction get neutered.  It’s all [art of the circle of life for the armies of the 40K universe. just ask any long time Chaos, Space Marine, Ork, or just about anyone that had a good codex in previous editions. Eventually it will all come back around. Hopefully you won’t have to wait as long.

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Adam, aka Latin Gandalf, has been gaming since the early eighties and has played 40K since Rogue Trader (among a number of other games). He listens to more podcasts than any healthy person should and is currently the host for TFG Radio. He also is one of the head judges for LVO and other major 40K Grand Tournaments.

7 Responses to “GW Grognard: The Pendulum(hatchet) Swings again”

  1. Vipoid May 11, 2019 10:06 am #

    Whilst I agree that selling a Ynnari army is an overreaction, this does seem like a massive dick move on the part of GW.

    I’m fine with Ynnari being weak. However, what I don’t understand is why they have to be weak *and* chock-full of anti-synergy *and* incredibly awkward to even field.

    – I don’t mind having to keep Eldar, DE and Harlequin detachments separate, but being forced to include one of the Ynnari special characters in each one is obnoxious beyond all reason.

    – I can live with the Soulburst being melee only, but why +1 to hit of all things? It just seems like a middle-finger to every DE player. Hey, you don’t mind your bonus being redundant after turn 2, right? What’s more, it means that Soulburst is worthless for virtually every character – including the 3 bloody Ynnari ones. Could they not at least have made it +1 to *wound*? That way most units could at least get some use out of it. This would also allow A Taste for Death to serve an actual purpose.

    – Oh and speaking of redundancy, thank you so much of making The Yncarne’s aura equally worthless for DE.

    – Also, I can get behind Ynnari not having fight twice or shoot twice abilities anymore, but no movement abilities? Seriously? Not even a psychic power along the lines of Warptime? Storm of Whispers adds nothing and could easily have been replaced with a more relevant power.

  2. Rob Butcher May 11, 2019 9:32 pm #

    Ynarri never had it’s own Codex in 8th edition; simply one paragraph in others.

    It wasn’t FLUFFy, indeed it made little reason outside the US tournament scene. I’ve never faced one in 20+ years of playing in GW and FLGS.

    Now it’s got an INDEX that stops much of the silliness. It can still be fielded as an Ynarri army but takes thought rather than merely losing an unit to get benefits. Bearing in mind that White Dwarf has a six-month run time Ynarri have had a longer “fun time” than if they’d been FAQed to this format in BIGFAQ2 or CA2018.

  3. zero-charisma May 12, 2019 8:36 am #

    If i hear “all the armies have codexes” one more time….

    **glaring at my Inquisition models**

    • Vipoid May 12, 2019 2:21 pm #

      I see your Inquisition and raise you Corsairs. xD

      • Reecius
        Reecius May 12, 2019 4:42 pm #

        No HQ for you, sirrah! lol

      • abusepuppy May 12, 2019 10:49 pm #

        I’ll see your Corsairs and raise you Adeptus Telepathica.

    • abusepuppy May 12, 2019 10:49 pm #

      No, man, Inquisition is great. You’ve got your 8pt models that are worse than Guardsmen, your single-model units that aren’t characters, and an equipment table that hasn’t gotten any updates since the edition launched and so generally costs 8-10pts more for any given weapon than the rest of the armies do.

      It’s very cool and very good.

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