Deathwatch Review: Troops: Veterans (post-CA 2018)

Hi everyone, Michael here with an updated review of the Deathwatch Veteran squad. Chapter Approved 2018 has made some solid changes to this squad and its use in the Deathwatch army. This part will take a look at the basic squad on its own, I’ll cover Kill Teams in a more detailed fashion in future reviews. For more reviews and analyses, check out the Tactics Corner.

Overview:

The Deathwatch Veteran squad is one of the two Troops choices available to the Deathwatch army. The squad benefits from the access to some of the best wargear available to the Space Marines, as well as access to Special Issue Ammunition, which allows even the basic Veteran to take on a wide range of opponents. While they may be competing with the Deathwatch Intercessor squad, they do have access to a much wider range of weapons options and transport options than the Primaris Marines of the Deathwatch.

The basic squad consists of 5 Veterans, with each Veteran costing 15 pts when armed with a Bolter, down from 17 pts per model before Chapter Approved 2018. The squad also has the option to include up to 5 additional models from Veterans, Vanguard Veterans, Deathwatch Terminators and Deathwatch Bikers, as well as the option to include a Watch Sergeant and Black Shield. Each addition provides new benefits and access to new abilities. With such a wealth of options and squad builds available, the uses of the Kill Team are equally varied. In the first part of this review, I will simply look at the basic Veteran squad and their benefits and disadvantages. Subsequent reviews will expand upon the roles and special rules of the mixed Kill Teams, looking at some popular builds in the army and how they function.

I would give the Deathwatch Veteran squad a rating somewhere between Efficient and Competitive. They can be equipped to tackle a wide range of threats to the Deathwatch army, and work well when they specialise in one particular aspect on the battlefield. However, the squad can get very expensive, very quickly and their durability on the battlefield can be a bit limited, though this can be offset by some wargear additions. I think the Intercessor squad is a very strong option for the Deathwatch, but there is still a place for the Deathwatch Veteran squad in the army.

Wargear:

  • Boltgun
  • Frag and Krak Grenades
  • Any Veteran, Watch Sergeant or Black Shield may replace their Boltgun with two items from the Deathwatch Equipment list.
  • Up to 4 Veterans may replace their Boltgun with an item from the Heavy Weapons List (Frag Cannon, Heavy Bolter, Heavy Flamer, Infernus Heavy Bolter, Missile Launcher).
  • Any Veteran may replace their Boltgun with a Heavy Thunder Hammer.
  • A Watch Sergeant may take a combat shield.

Abilities:

  • And They Shall Know No Fear
  • Combat Squads
  • Special Issue Ammunition
  • Atonement Through Honour- A unit that contains a Black Shield can make a Heroic Intervention as if it were a Character, and must do so if able to.
  • Mission Tactics- At the start of the first battle round, choose a selected Battlefield role (Troops, HQ, Elites, etc). All Deathwatch Infantry, Biker and Dreadnought models may re-roll failed to wound rolls of 1.

Tactics:

The Deathwatch Veteran has a decent profile on the battlefield, with +1A and +1Ld over a standard Space Marine. This gives them a bit more punch in combat and makes them less likely to suffer from the effects of morale, especially in a 5-man squad. One of the problems with the Deathwatch Veteran is that he has the same durability as a normal Space Marine, with only T4, one wound and a 3+ armour save. For only 2 pts more than a standard Space Marine Tactical Marine, you get many benefits over the Tactical Squad, making them a bargain compared to their regular Astartes brothers. However, they are still an expensive basic troops choice for any army.

With no cheap troops choices to act as screens, the loss of each Deathwatch Veteran is going to hurt the army. In competitive play, you are most likely going to be relying on the forces of the Astra Militarum to acts as cheap screens and a way to provide command points to your army.

Now that the Primaris Marines in the Deathwatch have access to Special Issue Ammuniton, they are a very strong Troops choice for the army. A Deathwatch Intercessor only costs 18 pts per model. For an extra 3 points per model, you get an extra wound, extra 6″ on their gun and an extra -1AP. In isolation, the Intercessor is the better choice in every possible way. However, all is not lost for the noble Deathwatch Veteran. He has access to superior wargear and a wider variety of transport options to get him into the fray quickly.

Where the Deathwatch Veteran does make his points back is in the special rules and wargear options he has available.

Special Issue Ammunition

This is one of the key special rules that makes the Deathwatch Veteran squad work in the game. When firing a number of Bolt weapons, the Deathwatch Veterans can fire a range of different ammunition options to suit their targets. These options are:

  • Dragonfire- The unit gains +1 to hit when firing at a unit in cover.
  • Hellfire- The shot wounds on a 2+ (except against vehicles and Titanic units).
  • Kraken- Add 6″ to the range of the weapon (3″ for Pistols) and improve the AP by 1 up to AP-2.
  • Vengeance- Decrease the range of the weapon by 6″ (3″ for Pistols) and improve the AP by 2 up to AP-3.

It can be difficult to know what round to use against what enemy unit. I’ve crunched some numbers and put together the average number of unsaved wounds that each round should cause against selected enemy units. In each of the examples below, I am assuming that you have 10 Deathwatch Veterans armed with Boltguns. The unit has deployed from deep strike reserve, so is just over 9″ away. This makes Vengeance rounds out of Rapid Fire range, though the average number of unsaved wounds at rapid fire range has been included out of completeness. Obviously, for the Vehicle/Monster column, the Hellfire round only applies to the Monster (as the shell does not work on Vehicles).

Aeldari Guardian

(T3, 5+ save)

Chaos Space Marine

(T4, 3+ save)

T’au Fire Warrior

(T3, 4+ save)

Ork Boy

(T4, 6+ save)

Vehicle/Monster

(T7, 3+ save)

Hellfire

7.5 3.7 5.6 9.3

3.7

Kraken 7.5 3.4 6.0 6.7

2.2

Vengeance 4.5

(9.0 rapid fire)

2.2

(4.5 rapid fire)

3.7

(7.5 rapid fire)

3.4

(6.7 rapid fire)

1.5

(3.0 rapid fire)

In general terms, at ranges between 9-12″, the Hellfire rounds are the best option for most enemy types. The only instance where the Kraken is a better shot is for units with a toughness less than 4 and a decent armour save. As can also be seen, if you can get the Vengeance rounds in rapid fire range, they should cause more wounds on average against most standard infantry, with only those with T5 or greater, or a 6+ armour save being better suited to the Hellfire rounds once more.

There are almost no situations where the Dragonfire Bolts are the best option. The +1 to hit against units in cover is mitigated by the +1 cover save that your opponent is getting in most cases. However, the rounds can be useful against those armies capable of incurring negative to hit modifiers against shooting attacks. This allows the Veterans to maintain some level of accuracy when shooting at enemy units in cover (looking at you Aeldari Rangers!), while also having access to some stratagems that can increase your chances of damaging the enemy unit.

If we take the Mission Tactics into account, the table looks like this now:

Aeldari Guardian

(T3, 5+ save)

Chaos Space Marine

(T4, 3+ save)

T’au Fire Warrior

(T3, 4+ save)

Ork Boy

(T4, 6+ save)

Vehicle/Monster

(T7, 3+ save)

Hellfire

8.7

4.3 6.5 10.9

4.3

Kraken

8.7

3.9 7.0 7.8

2.6

Vengeance 5.2

(10.5 rapid fire)

2.6

(5.2 rapid fire)

4.4

(8.7 rapid fire)

3.9

(7.8 rapid fire)

1.7

(3.5 rapid fire)

As you can see, the great odds of wounding with the Hellfire rounds (as you are re-rolling all your failed wounds) provide a boost for taking on weakly armoured infantry units and monsters. There are a number of other stratagem options to boost your damage output with the special issue ammunition (more on this below).

One of the benefits of the Kraken round is the boost to its rapid fire range. You can now fire two shots with your Bolters at up to 15″ away. This has the benefit of allowing you to deploy from reserve more than 12″ from an enemy unit and still fire two shots with each Bolter. This allows you to avoid many of the interceptor-type stratagems, such as Auspex Scan, stopping your unit from taking casualties before they get a chance to fire. Deploying further away is not so bad, as you generally don’t want the Veterans in combat where their firepower is neutralised.

The new Beta Bolter rules are also a big boost to the forces of the Deathwatch, thanks to the combination with Special Issue Ammunition. These new rules give you more ways to maximise your firepower output in the Veteran Squad. If the squad remains stationary in the movement phase, you can fire twice as many shots at the full Bolter range. This is a great boost for any backfield, objective-holding squads that you may have in the army. With the Kraken rounds, this allows each Veteran to fire two Bolter shots up to 30″ at AP-1. This is a good level of firepower for a unit sitting on an objective in your deployment zone, and means that they will be able to make an impact on the game in all but a few of the deployment map types.

Getting to fire two shots when stationary is a big boost with special issue ammunition, allowing you to threaten a large number of enemy units. It is also a nice bonus for using the Auspex Scan stratagem against enemy reserves. Under the new beta rules, if the unit remained stationary, you can fire two shots at the 12″ range with the Vengeance rounds, as opposed to only one shot per model under the old rules. This gives you better odds of taking out more heavily armoured opponents that have arrived from reserve near your Veterans.

Weapon Options

The Deathwatch Veteran has a huge array of weapon options available to them, so you can arm the squad for whatever role you wish to use. Because of this diversity, you could really build a Deathwatch army almost entirely composed of Veteran squads and be able to deal with most threats to the enemy army.

Before Chapter Approved 2018, I would always arm my Veterans with Chainswords over a Bolt Pistol. For me, the extra cost of the Bolt Pistol was simply not worth it for each Veteran. However, Bolt Pistols are now free for units in the army, making either choice a valid option.

You have the option to swap your Bolter for a Bolter and a Chainsword. This costs exactly the same, but gives each Veteran three attacks in combat. While the Veterans are not amazing in combat, a basic squad with Chainswords will put out 16 attacks, which could be enough to finish off weakened squads or do some damage to an enemy unit at a push.

Taking a Bolt Pistol on each Veteran allows you to make use of their potent firepower while the unit is locked in combat. Bolt Pistols also make use of Special Issue Ammunition, allowing you to do a lot of damage to enemy units when using the poisoned 2+ shells or AP-2 shells at point blank range. If the Veterans do find themselves locked in combat with an enemy unit, they can fire their Bolt Pistols in their shooting phase and still get two attacks each in the Fight phase, giving them some good punch against an enemy unit in your turn.

I’m not sure what is the better option. I like the additional attacks from the Chainswords, as they can be used each Fight phase when you are in combat, whereas you can only fire the Bolt Pistols in combat in your own turn. However, the Bolt Pistol gives you better tools for dealing with high toughness or heavily armoured foes, giving you the ability to do more damage than with your Veterans’ close combat attacks.

Probably one of the best options for the Deathwatch is the ability to take a Storm Bolter on each Veteran. Now that Storm Bolters have access to Special Issue Ammunition (SIA), this is a great way to have a Veteran unit put out a lot of strong firepower. A Veteran with a Chainsword and Storm Bolter comes in at 18 pts per model, and is able to put out 4 Bolter Shots with SIA at rapid fire range. For an idea of the damage output of a unit of 10 Veterans with Storm Bolters, just double the values in the tables above.

A unit of Veterans with Storm Bolters, back up by a Watch Master and using Hellfire Bolts with Mission Tactics will have about 86% of their shots hit and wound. This means a unit of 10 will put out about 35 wounds on any enemy unit that is not a Vehicle or has the Titanic keyword. This should make a serious dent in most enemy units on the turn that they fire. I have been using a unit of 10 Veterans with Storm Bolters in my Deathwatch army since the codex was released, and they do a lot of work. They normally eliminate an enemy unit on the turn they arrive, but can be brought down quite easily in the following turn, so you need to try and protect them in some fashion, such as with Storm Shields.

The new Beta Bolter rules are also a big boost for the Storm Bolter Veterans. If you remain stationary, the unit can fire 40 shots up to 30″, giving them a huge threat range on the battlefield. This threat range increase even allows you to deploy them on the table from the start, rather than putting them in reserve, allowing you to utilise the potent firepower from your first turn.

Up to four Veterans can carry heavy weapons in the squad. The Frag Cannon is still a very powerful option. The Frag Shells put out 2D6 auto-hits with S6 and AP-1. The range is only 8″, meaning you cannot fire it from deep strike, but if you get close to the enemy unit, they will cause a lot of damage. I find that you need at least 2 Frag Cannons in the unit to put out a solid level of firepower, as it is all too easy to whiff on the 2D6 roll for a single Frag Cannon, so having at least one back up is a good idea. The Frag Cannon got a little cheaper in the codex (25 pts each), so taking the full four in a unit is not overly expensive for the firepower they can put out.

You can also use the solid shells for dealing with tougher enemy units. However, I find the solid shell is not great at taking on enemy vehicles. At close range they are S9, making it easier to wound, but they are still only 2 damage each. This actually makes it really tough to severely damage enemy units with a single round of fire from even four Frag Cannons, that will do an average of 6 damage to a T7, 3+ save vehicle at short range.

The other Heavy Weapons options can also be useful in selected circumstances. The Missile Launcher can provide some useful anti-armour firepower for the army (an area where the Deathwatch still lack). This works well on a backfield objective holding unit. The Heavy Bolter can give you access to the Hellfire Shells stratagem, which is a nice way of dealing mortal wounds to the enemy army. The Infernus Heavy Bolter provides some good short range firepower if you fire the Heavy Bolter and Heavy Flamer shots together, but for only an extra 5 pts, I would rather take the Frag Cannon. For me, the Missile Launcher is the better all-rounder weapon. It went down to 20 pts in CA2018 and gives you the option of the Frag or Krak Missiles for different situations.

Another option that is strong for the Veterans if the Deathwatch Shotgun. A Veteran with a Shotgun comes in at 17 pts each. The shotgun has its own special ammunition, allowing you to fire a S3 flamer, or S4 shots that are re-roll failed wounds or double damage at half range (8″). This is an Assault 2 weapon (D6 for the flame option), so gives you a bit more firepower at long range or allows you to advance and still fire with some degree of accuracy.

There are several other options worth considering for the Veterans as well. You can take combi-weapons on each Veteran if you wish. While this does get very expensive, it can give you some ways to deal with tricky units in the enemy army, and some combi-weapons got some nice points reductions in CA2018. For example, a unit of 4 or 5 Combi-Meltas that can deep strike in and take care of enemy vehicles is a nice option for the Deathwatch. You can also use the stratagems to wound them on a 2+, making them even more potent at punching through enemy armour.

Another useful option that has come up is to arm a squad of Veterans with combi-plasmas. A Veteran with a Combi-Plasma costs 26 pts per model. A unit of 10 armed with combi-plasmas can put out a lot of very strong firepower, especially if they overcharge the Plasma shots. With a nearby Watch Master (for re-rolls) and the +1 to wound stratagem, the combi-plasmas are a potent source of anti-tank firepower in the army, with the potential to put out 40 damage in a single shooting phase.

The Stalker Pattern Bolter is also a great option, in my opinion. These get 30″ range, Heavy 2, -1AP in addition to special issue ammunition. This makes them a great backfield unit, able to fire up to 36″ away. Sit them on an objective so they don’t have to move and they still get 2 shots up to maximum range. The extra -1AP on top of the special issue ammunition is also a great boost, allowing you to be at -3AP up to 24″ range and still get 10 shots with a unit of 5. The new Beta Bolter rules do make the Stalker Bolter less of an obvious choice for the Veterans. A unit of Intercessors can perform a similar role, thanks to getting 2 shots each if they remain stationary. You get the same number of shots as the Stalker Bolter Veterans, but double the number of wounds for the Intercessors. I’ll look at this in more detail in my review of the Stalker Bolter Veterans unit.

You can also take a Storm Shield with a ranged weapon on a Veteran. Chapter Approved 2018 saw a huge boost to the Deathwatch army in that Storm Shields are only 2 pts for non-character models. Deathwatch arguably have the most army-wide access to Storm Shields of any Space Marine army.

They are now an almost necessary inclusion in a unit. Giving a entire unit of 10 Veterans a 3+ invulnerable save for only 20 pts is a huge boost to their durability. While a Storm Shield for every Veteran is a bit overkill, in my opinion, two or three in a unit of 10 is not a huge points investment in terms of the durability boosts that you are getting in return. Just remember that Veterans with a Bolter and Storm Shield cannot take a Bolt Pistol or Chainsword, and those with Heavy Weapons cannot take a Storm Shield.

The Veterans also have access to a number of melee options if you are so inclined. I tend not to bother with them. You don’t really want the squad in combat, as this wastes their potent firepower. However, if you want to go for a combat unit of Veterans, you have the option to do so. The Sergeant and Black Shield have 3 attacks each, so a power weapon on one of them might not be a big waste if you do find yourself in combat. However, much of the time, I would rather spend the points on another Storm Shield.

I was really hoping that the Heavy Thunder Hammer would get a big points decrease or a change in profile to make it worth taking in the codex, or post CA2018. A Veteran with a Heavy Thunder Hammer costs 44 points. For that, you get 2 attacks that hit on a 4+ at S8. I think the random damage profile is what hurts it. Half the time if you manage to hit and wound, you will be doing equal or less damage than a regular Thunder Hammer. It is simply not worth the points in my opinion, given you can take a regular Thunder Hammer and Storm Shield for 13 pts less. If the Heavy Thunder Hammer was S10 and/or D6 damage to a minimum of 3 (like other types of similar weapons), I could see the appeal of it, but it is pretty worthless as it is at the moment. It’s a real shame, as I think it is a great looking weapon.

Stratagems

The Veterans have access to a number of very useful stratagems that boost their utility on the battlefield. Check out the Deathwatch Stratagems review for a full rundown of the new codex stratagems.

The Doctrines are a great boost for the Deathwatch Veteran squad, giving you +1 to wound against a selected enemy unit. Hellfire shells are a great way of wounding most enemy units on a 2+ without a Doctrine, but there are some situations where you may want to use the Doctrines. For example, using one with a Frag Cannon allows you to wound most enemy infantry or Biker units on a 2+. They are also useful when targeting enemy vehicles with your Bolters or special weapons. As stated above, a unit of Combi-Meltas will wound most enemy vehicles on a 2+ when combined with a Doctrine. Add in Mission Tactics to re-roll failed wounds of 1, and you can cause a lot of damage in a single round of fire.

Auspex Scan is also great on the Veteran squad, given the power of the special issue ammunition. You can cause a lot of damage to enemy deep strikers on the turn they arrive. The new Beta Bolter rules also mean that if your firing unit remained stationary in their previous movement phase, they can still fire double the number of shots with the Vengeance Shells at over 9″ range, giving you the potential to do more damage against enemy reserves.

The Teleportarium stratagem is also key to getting the most out of the Veteran squad. This not only helps to keep a unit safe from enemy firepower until the turn they arrive, it also allows you to get into rapid fire range with most of you options the turn they deploy. A unit of 10 Veterans with Storm Bolters will put out 40 shots on the turn they arrive with most ammunition types, enough to do a lot of damage to a variety of enemy units.

Unit Synergy

There are a number of units that help a Deathwatch Veteran squad perform better on the battlefield.

A Watch Master or Watch Captain is great for providing the unit with re-rolls to hit. The Watch Master gives full re-rolls to hit, while the Watch Captain gives re-rolls of 1’s to hit. The benefit of the Watch Captain is that he can be given a Jump Pack, allowing him to deploy from reserve without using a stratagem to accompany a unit of Veterans in the Teleportarium. These characters can also take the Tome of Ectoclades. This allows you to grant a different Mission Tactics to units within 6″. This is very useful for selecting the optimum Mission Tactics for the target of the Veteran squad after they arrive from the Teleportarium, maximising their damage output.

Transport vehicles are also a solid option for the Deathwatch Veteran squad. A Rhino or Razorback gives the squad a chance of getting close to the enemy army in relative safety. This is great for getting their Bolters into rapid fire range or for getting in to close range to use the Frag Cannons. The Razorback also has the bonus of being one of the few units that can take a Lascannon. The Twin Lascannon can provide some nice anti-tank firepower to the Deathwatch army, especially as they have not gone down in price.

The Corvus Blackstar is a nice transport option for allowing you to get up the field very quickly. It also has the benefit of being the only transport vehicle capable of taking mixed Kill Teams if you cannot use the Teleportarium stratagem. While it got a nice points reduction in CA2018, I still feel it is too expensive to take in such a low model army as the Deathwatch.

Overall

The Deathwatch Veteran squad is a solid addition to the Deathwatch army. While they lack the durability of the Deathwatch Intercessor squad, they do have several useful weapon options not available to the Primaris Marines. For this, they are still a useful addition to the army if you can arm them appropriately.

The Kill Team with Storm Bolters is a solid option and one I think you will see a lot with the Deathwatch, able to put out a lot of firepower that is boosted even further by special issue ammunition.

This first part of the review looked at the basic Veteran squad. The next parts will look at the options for the mixed Kill Teams that you can field with the Deathwatch.

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An avid 40k player and blogger from Scotland. I started in 3rd edition and have been playing ever since. I detail my adventures in my own blog "St Andrews Wargaming", highlighting my mediocre painting skills, regular battle reports and my occasional random ramblings.

12 Responses to “Deathwatch Review: Troops: Veterans (post-CA 2018)”

  1. Philli B January 31, 2019 8:11 am #

    Just curious – how many times are you going to do an in depth review of veterans and their options before you do a full analysis of Intercessors? Do you not feel Primaris in DW are a competitive option worth even considering?

    • Michael Corr
      Michael Corr January 31, 2019 8:53 am #

      Hi Philli. I do think the Intercessors are a valid option in the army. I frequently run a squad of 10 in my force.

      I’m still in the process of building a Primaris force for my army to include the other options and have them in a mixed kill team. As such, I don’t have a huge amount of experience in running the Intercessors, so am waiting till I get more experience of them on the tabletop before writing a review on them. I didn’t want to write a review without having more experience with them to offer some useful advice.

      I actually think Primaris could be really strong with the Deathwatch, especially with the points reductions and change to Bolter rules.

      • Philliip B January 31, 2019 12:14 pm #

        Thanks Michael. There’s a whole lot of content for Veterans, then more for Veterans, then an update for Veterans again… and I think a line or 2 about Intercessors and a comment that you forget about hellblasters somewhere. If it’s waiting until you have the expertise as opposed to flat out believing they are not competitive, I get it! Just wanted to make sure they weren’t being ignored because you thought they were anti-competitive or something, because they bring a lot to the table!

      • jasonwolfe January 31, 2019 1:45 pm #

        Having run a pretty good amount of mathhammer in my terminal comparing Intercessors (I have so many on my shelf I want to play) and Veterans with storm bolters … it just isn’t close in terms of firepower per point and relative durability.

        10 intercessors is never going to match 10 veteran-stormbolter-soup out of deepstrike in firepower. And the mixed unit durability from the two terminators taking 2+ saves and the rest of them tanking lascannons on a 3++ is just too much.

        Intercessors are better now that they can rapid fire if they don’t move, but that relegates them to a backfield objective holder role (which they are good at if they are also in cover). But no intercessor based deep strike squad is ever going to match the durability and damage output of the 10 man stormbolter herd on a point for point basis. 38-40 shots > 20 shots with an additional -1 in all circumstances. And the mixed save thing is just so awesome at frustrating both high quality and high quantity shooting.

        • Michael Corr
          Michael Corr February 1, 2019 12:43 am #

          Yeah, for flat out firepower comparison, the Intercessors and Storm Bolter Veterans simply don’t come anywhere close. However, I think there is still use for them in the army. Perhaps in mixed squads with Hellblasters. They can put out of lot of potent anti-armour firepower.

          I am planning to write up more Primaris articles in the coming months as I crack on with my Primaris project.

        • Lemondish February 1, 2019 7:34 am #

          With Bolter Discipline in play, no backfield objective holding Intercessor unit will match the 10 man storm bolters herd on a point for point basis either. I’ve had a lot of experience the past week with SB/SS Vet squads in cover with a 30″ threat range. Intercessors are only better from 31″ – 36″.

          Primaris for Deathwatch used to be viable, but a reduction in points costs for Veterans and storm shields along with the absolutely no brainer choice on the storm bolter means Primaris are an inefficient choice.

    • WestRider January 31, 2019 4:58 pm #

      It’s perhaps also worth noting that the Deathwatch Veteran Squad has more options than any other in the game. Heck it’s got more options than all the Primaris Units put together. There are probably some Armies you could do a decent analysis of before you got to the end of the possibilities in the DW Kill Team.

      • Dontes January 31, 2019 7:25 pm #

        I run two Primaris Fortis kill teams consisting of Five Intercessors, four Hellblasters and an Inceptor. I deploy them in the teleportarium alongside a Redemptor dreadnought. I deepstrike a watch captain using a jump pack. When I drop them in I use the captain for rerolls of one to hit which means I can overcharge the hellblasters while using the plus one to wound stratagem. Against vehicles I will use vengeance rounds in the bolt rifles -3 to save is nothing to laugh at and the plasma will be wounding most things on twos -4 to save and two damage. If I need to split up the two teams I can drop the dread with one and use “wisdom of the ancients” for rerollls to help one team while the captain babysits the other. I use the inceptors purely to keep them from being locked in combat and still be able to shoot after falling back.

      • Michael Corr
        Michael Corr February 1, 2019 12:48 am #

        Agreed, WestRider! The sheer number of combinations and uses makes one overarching review completely impractical. I’ve already got another three or four articles just on the Kill Teams.

  2. Dontes January 31, 2019 7:33 pm #

    I run two Primaris Fortis kill teams consisting of Five Intercessors, four Hellblasters and an Inceptor. I deploy them in the teleportarium alongside a Redemptor dreadnought. I deepstrike a watch captain using a jump pack. When I drop them in I use the captain for rerolls of one to hit which means I can overcharge the hellblasters while using the plus one to wound stratagem. Against vehicles I will use vengeance rounds in the bolt rifles -3 to save is nothing to laugh at and the plasma will be wounding most things on twos -4 to save and two damage. If I need to split up the two teams I can drop the dread with one and use “wisdom of the ancients” for rerollls to help one team while the captain babysits the other. I use the inceptors purely to keep them from being locked in combat and still be able to shoot after falling back.

    • Michael Corr
      Michael Corr February 1, 2019 12:45 am #

      That’s a pretty potent combination, I haven’t had a chance to try it out yet. I haven’t actually tried running a Dreadnought in the Teleportarium yet. It is something your opponent will need to deal with, as they can’t afford a Dreadnought running around their backlines for long.

    • GABMAT February 1, 2019 8:09 am #

      i like the hellblasters , plasma inceptor one also. For the second bomb i have in plan a 5 man intercessor unit with auto bolt rifles , 4 aggressors and inceptor with the assault bolters. They are so versatile. They can all advance and shoot without penalties.. U have 8x power fist atacks. And the complete squad has 5 toughnes all the time. U charge them its worst then flamers. They can hit u back with power fists and with the inceptor u fall back and shoot them in the face again. i have only one unit yet thou 🙂

      Im still wondering that no one is bringing to LVO a ridiculous infinite aggressor list. Those aggressors in numbers shred even the knights to pieces with the amount of shots. with 2 cp wounding on 5+ and re-rolling ones.

      The unit is expensive around 280 – 300 points but well worth it. U need command points for morale or psyker for psychic fortress and i have also the primaris chaplain i finally found a use for this cool model. He is synergizing well with the aggressor squads , re-rolling hits in combat for the power fist is huge. And his morale bubble u need most.
      Because the thing is it looks nice to hide the expensive models behind intercessors but the morale of the unit is 8 with sergeant and 7 without if u remove the 5 intercessors. if u loose the 5 intercessor in one round which usually happens 🙂 even with the morale re-rolls u will often loose the expensive models and with – morale skills its terrible. So 2 cp , psychic fortress or a chaplain is a must for the big intercessor unit otherwise its not that tough as it looks.

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