Chapter Tactics #85: 8th Edition 101, Unraveling the Psychic Phase

Chapter Tactics is a 40k podcast which focuses on promoting better tactical play and situational awareness across all variations of the game. This is the third episode in a series of episodes which are going to break down each phase of the game, and dive into how you can master them.Today Peteypab is back and ready to talk about everyone the Psychic phase, and how to overcome powerful psychic based armies and lists. 

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59 Responses to “Chapter Tactics #85: 8th Edition 101, Unraveling the Psychic Phase”

  1. logan antonation October 16, 2018 1:30 am #

    Geez Sean. Usually your ok to listen too but you were kind of a know it all this eps and cutting everyone off. Little awkward to listen too

    • JimV October 16, 2018 10:20 am #

      Agreed with above, this was hard to listen to. Sean sounded condescending and a know it all, shutting down everyone at every turn. Probably one of the least enjoyable episodes Ive listened to.

      • rvd1ofakind October 16, 2018 11:18 am #

        This episode was totally fine to me. Sean is the most accomplished and most likelly the most informed (since he’s a big ol nerd) out of the 3 anyway, so he should talk the most.
        I doubt Pablo or the GK player think he was condescending towards them.

    • AlamoMelt October 16, 2018 10:56 am #

      Funny, I came here to suggest that if they’re going to invite Sheylin (sp?) they should consider letting her finish a thought.

    • Petey Pab
      Petey Pab October 16, 2018 12:17 pm #

      Hey guys! I’m sure AP didn’t intend to come off as condescending or ruin your listening experience! I can’t speak for Shaylynn but I personally had no problem with Sean cutting me off and contradicting me. It’s the kind of rapport we developed and without him I would be prone to longer rants and the occasional incorrect fact.

      I am sorry you guys, I’m sure he will eventually read this and respond but until then I’ll look into how I can change some of our episode layouts to remedy the issue.

      I personally think it may have been the time of day we recorded and also the format I wrote the show notes in.

      • Ujayim October 16, 2018 3:54 pm #

        Respectfully, Pablo, it’s exactly how he types in the comments, too. It’s just how he is.

        You brought him on for the contrary opinion, but you also get the attitude, intentional or otherwise.

      • Agent X October 18, 2018 8:27 am #

        I read the comments before listening to the podcast and was expecting an aggressive controversial trainwreck.

        It wasn’t “that” bad to me. I argue with people for a living though so maybe I see it through a different filter than others.

        I do agree AP was dialed up to an 11 from his normal behavior during this podcast so maybe that was too much for the general audience.

        The constant interrupting of a guest was what concerned me more.

        I was literally having a conversation with my 8 year old daughter this morning about boys/girls being treated differently in school environments and how there is a difference in participation (volunteering/being called on to answer questions etc.) and this podcast just hit close to home for me.

        Shaylynn was cut off numerous times and basically shoved into the background. I don’t want the only guests we hear on the show to be the Type A personalities who scratch and claw for air time and compete with you as the hosts.

        In future podcasts I would like to suggest letting her (and all future “guests”) actually finish when they contribute. We know you as hosts have probably heard it a million times but we as the audience are new to it. Just let it roll and mute yourself so we don’t hear personal commentary (uh huh yup sure etc.) overriding and drowning out the guest speaker.

  2. vikstalus October 16, 2018 11:27 am #

    This sean guy is unbearable, cuts people off in a really pretentous way even if they make a good point, like no-one cares doom is achually a debuff. Im only 20 minutes in but i dont think saylin (duno how to spell the name. sorry) has achually managed to say somthing without him cutting in with some bullshittery, let her talk man.

  3. Patrick October 16, 2018 12:58 pm #

    Man, I really wanted to like this series, but can’t deal with Sean any more 🙁 I am seriously considering actually unsubscribing from the podcast because of him.

  4. Patrick October 16, 2018 1:01 pm #

    And as an example, either one of the other people say “in general, X happens” and he will say “well actually” and give a one off answer. Then if they others say “This can do Y” and he will say, “But generally…” – it is like he HAS to have the last word and show how much smarter he is.

    He’s probably a fine guy, but listening to this makes me not even want to play the game (as a returning player).

    • 2xtreme October 16, 2018 2:04 pm #

      She brings up the point that Smite requires line of sight to work and he immediately shoots her down with “we’re not going to sit here and read every psychic rule out loud.”

      Later in the episode he talks about how a lot of psychic abilities require line of sight (which is EXACTLY what she got shot down for mentioning earlier in the episode). Furthermore, she jokingly replies “unless your pulling Grey Knight shenanigans” to which he replies with maximum condescension “we’re not going to talk about every single exception that’s possible under the rules, we would be here for years.”

      This is just one example of what went on the entire episode and it was really frustrating. I honestly have no idea how she hung in there so graciously. Thankfully the hosts are announced at the beginning of the episode and I can pick which ones to skip.

      • Trantatrus October 17, 2018 2:54 pm #

        This is an excellent example of the problem I have with his input. Other than being so quick to shut down everyone else’s points, he also seems to constantly act as though the show is on some kind of timer… But then he goes on literal rants about even smaller things than what he cut someone off for the mere mention of – or sometimes like this example, LITERALLY THE EXACT SAME THING

    • PrincessM October 16, 2018 3:26 pm #

      He plays in my area and I’ve stopped playing at stores and clubs because of my interactions with him.

  5. 2xtreme October 16, 2018 2:02 pm #

    She brings up the point that Smite requires line of sight to work and he immediately shoots her down with “we’re not going to sit here and read every psychic rule out loud.”

    Later in the episode he talks about how a lot of psychic abilities require line of sight (which is EXACTLY what she got shot down for mentioning earlier in the episode). Furthermore, she jokingly replies “unless your pulling Grey Knight shenanigans” to which he replies with maximum condescension “we’re not going to talk about every single exception that’s possible under the rules, we would be here for years.”

    This is just one example of what went on the entire episode and it was really frustrating. I honestly have no idea how she hung in there so graciously. Thankfully the hosts are announced at the beginning of the episode and I can pick which ones to skip.

  6. NinetyNineNo October 16, 2018 2:22 pm #

    I’m eventually gonna build an Eldar army, once I’m done with Tau, just because of the psychic powers. One of my favorite aspects of 40k, easily.

    A minor-to-the-point-of-useless correction: in 8th ed, there’s exactly one power that uses weapon profiles rather than just mortal wounds: Space Wolves’ Fury of the Wolf Spirits. This is a bit of an unpopular opinion, but I wish they’d make more powers with weapon profiles, mortal wounds just have too little granularity. Not to mention they disproportionately punish elites over hordes and vehicles in an edition where half the game mechanics also do that. It’s very hard to make, for example, a psychic power that’s meant for killing vehicles (like Zoanthropes of yore) and not other stuff, because mortal wounds spill over and affect everyone equally. So we’re left with either band-aid solutions like the “roll a d6 for each model, MW for each 6” powers which are only good against giant units, or else clumsy keyword-based effects. Most often, powers are just worse Smites with rare exceptions like Executioner.

    Buffing- and debuffing-wise, psychic powers are strong as hell in 8th. But the fantasy of MIND BULLETS is pretty weak right now.

    • Ujayim October 16, 2018 3:53 pm #

      It pains me, every day, to know that Eldar have 18+ psychic power, meanwhile my Daemons MADE OF MAGIC that serve THE GOD OF MAGIC have 6, of which almost all are hot garbage.

      8this weird, sometimes. My Tzeentch salt is endless.

  7. bogalubov October 16, 2018 6:34 pm #

    I think they might be dating. At least they always attend tournaments together.

    • Reecius
      Reecius October 16, 2018 7:12 pm #

      This is starting to stray into the realm of too personal. Let’s avoid the topic of people’s relationships or lack thereof please, unless they bring it up themselves.

    • Lady of Titan October 17, 2018 5:04 am #

      (Shaylynn here) To clarify:

      I am not, nor I have I ever, dated Sean. The only reason you probably think so is that he is my tournament traveling partner and I am of the opposite gender of him. There are no real competitive ladies in my immediate area so all of my traveling companions wind up being men- none of whom I am attracted to and are dating other people.

      It is extremely frustrating to be constantly subjected to this assumption. I can get some really awkward conversational stuff in the lighter cases and have any successes I get at 40k written off as Sean’s merit rather than my own. So, please, do not ever suggest our relationship as anything but just friends who travel to events together to save money.

      Because that’s the truth of it.

  8. rvd1ofakind October 16, 2018 7:47 pm #

    Sean is close with Shaylynn and even Pablo(due to the podcast). That’s how friends sometimes talk. Ribbing, banter is a thing. In case you missed it, Shaylynn did the same and said “I’m just giving you shit, Sean”. It’s what people do when they are close friends. You wouldn’t do that to someone you don’t know, ofc.

    But seeing as most 40k players have softer skin than kindergarten kids, don’t have friends and are insulted by everything… this comments section seems about right.
    Seriously:
    Geoff criticises a move on stream: “waaaaah, he’s talking shit about the players”
    Sean jokes about reading every psyhic power: “waaaah, he’s being mean to the co-hosts”
    I write that a unit is bad, why it’s bad and why it doesn’t see competitive play: “waaaah, every unit has a place, you just need to learn how to use it”

    • Michael Corr
      Michael Corr October 17, 2018 5:53 am #

      Too true! We should all follow rvd1ofakind’s example of how to be civil in the comments section!

      You won’t find him insulting anyone who disagrees with him, calling them kindergarten kids or calling them friendless.

      • Michael Corr
        Michael Corr October 17, 2018 5:58 am #

        I’ve got to say, the oblivious contradictory nature of your comments is sometimes quite entertaining. Most comments are along the lines of:
        “You can’t believe how much abuse I get just for voicing a dissenting opinion, it is really unfair.

        Anyway, here’s why all the losers, saddos and GW fanboys that don’t agree with me are wrong!”.

        • rvd1ofakind October 17, 2018 6:36 am #

          The last sentence of the second paragraph is to steal APs flame. He can’t be the most flamed person in the comments over me. Like WTF.

          The first two are right though. 40k fans are one of the biggest crybabies I’ve ever seen. “GW hates me and my army”, “GW promised orktober but didn’t have a model release every day, wtf”, “This guy brought 90 ork boyz in a 1000 pts army to a tournament, what a WAAC player”, “I went to a tournament, grabbed random models off my shelf and went 0-3. Wtf, you shouldn’t think about stuff like strategy when making a list, that’s tryhard powergamers”

          ^^^ Those are not made up. I have seen or heard all of them. Some of them up to a hundred times(I’m part of a lot of social 40k groups)

          And before you say “That’s what you do all the time”, actually try to read my posts. They all have clearly written points as to why I’m saying what I’m saying. I do not type “GW hates my armies”, I type “This is why I don’t think the game was tested properly, or GW didn’t bother listening to their testers”.

          • Trantatrus October 17, 2018 2:58 pm
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            You are one of the worst debators I’ve ever seen within the community Rvd and your entire perspective is just hyperbole, anecdotes and strawmen. You are disruptive to any real conversation and insulting to anyone you disagree with. I saw you get banned from Discord for doing the same thing. At some point when everyone else is the “asshole”, you have to start consider that maybe the problem is you

          • rvd1ofakind October 17, 2018 6:59 pm
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            Discord? Oh are you talking about that manchild of an admin? He’s basically a troll twitch chat user who somehow got admin privileges. Here is how he makes all his comments: “but the book doesn’t say I can’t but my models on the side Loooooooooooooool”. Now he made up the bs of “this faq question was changed so the rules in the rulebook are invalidated”.

            As far as me being disruptive and a bad debator – I talk the exact same way in the in a chat with a lot of top 100 ITC players. Guess what, they actually agree with almost everything I say and respect my opinion. They know that the game has big problems like the -1 to hit modifier stacking, eldar reigning supreme, daemon codex being the worst written codex and the fact that most of the units are not “situational” but “unuseable”. These people know that I don’t make shit up and I can listen to their opinion and it may sway my opinion too. Why? Because those guys understand me, they are not garage beer and dice gamers, they are competitive players.
            I quit Dakka because of the same thing. It’s pointless to discuss competitive game concepts with them. People say stuff like “ork boyz get shot after enemy retreats” and when I ask “why not surround so they can’t retreat?” They say “omg that’s abusing game rules”. Like I can’t communicate with people like that.

          • rvd1ofakind October 17, 2018 7:29 pm
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            Here’s how this conversation goes in different circles:

            “”

            “Omg, every unit has a place, you’re just using them poorly. Don’t be so negative” – the casual circle

            “Yeah, I agree. I’ve played 100s of games and there really isn’t a choice when using them. You just take troops and HQs and that’s usually it” – the competitive circle

            The people in the competitive circle understand that I’m not just hating for fun. They know that the game isn’t some magical land of dice and models – the game at it’s core concept is math and risk management as far as evaluating units is concerned. In order to see how good a unit is, you have to compare it to similar units be it from your or other factions: you compare damage and durability(mathammer), reliability, unique rules, unique stratagems, movement and range (and sometime leadership). If you have letters and crushers, you can plainly see that crushers will never see competitive play in the state they are in, etc

          • Michael Corr
            Michael Corr October 17, 2018 11:31 pm
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            Don’t bother Trantatrus, you are trying to bring logic and reason to a troll fight.

            rvd1ofakind is obviously not the problem, it just so happens that everyone who disagrees with him is a crybaby, manchild or troll. It can so easily happen when you are the only shining bastion of good and light railing against the evils of GW.

            Don’t just take my word for it. Ask the top 100 ITC players, who all love him! Don’t ask any of the losers who comment here, what tournaments have they won?!?

            I do like though that you said “40k fans are one of the biggest crybabies I’ve ever seen”.
            From this, we can infer, either 1.Yyou are a 40k fan, therefore a big crybaby. Or 2, you hate 40k, but still spend all your time talking about it and arguing with people over it. I’m not sure which one is worse.

            Don’t mind me though, I’m just a crybaby, sad, loser troll, obviously.

          • rvd1ofakind October 17, 2018 11:54 pm
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            I don’t call people who disagree with me crybabies, manchildren or troll. That’s exactly what I don’t do. You clearly do now know the person we’re talking about. He’s the guy who wound place Mortarion on his side during a tournament so that his base can reach the top floor of a ruin. That’s the sort of person we’re talking about. I’ve argued and talked to Reece, Geoff, AP, etc. I haven’t ever called them idiots, trolls, whatever when they disagree because that’s not the type of person I am.

            I listen to the top ITC players unconditionally and take their opinions into account. They have proven themselves. If the guys, that are not in the top of ITC make actual points instead of “you just don’t know how to use the unit well!” – heck, I’ll listen to them too. I want to expand my knowledge pool.

            Finally I say that about 40k fans because that’s how I see them after coming from other communities. Nowehere else do I see people going to tournaments(where the main goal is to win BTW) and saying “oh, you tryhards you picked the best heros” or “every hero is amazing if you learn how to play him”. That’s why the 40k community is bafling to me. And if you need me to type out “40k fans that do not know anything about the competitive game and blame everyone trying to win and think GW has an agenda against their army” then I don’t know what else to tell you.

          • Drake Iddon October 18, 2018 12:01 am
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            rvd didnt I at least teach you that lying is wrong, you were removed from the channel because during a debate on an FAQ question being removed (and thus the restriction it made being removed) you got so angry that the channel didnt agree with you that you descended into spamming the same picture of the rulebook over and over again, even after I leveled with you to say its at the discretion of the TO so you can make your case and you might get what you think is right, you STILL couldn’t accept that. Not to mention you had been talking about the same topic over multiple days because you couldn’t drop it, in the end i removed you from just the channel, not the discord yet you decided to block me and leave the discord anyway.

            Its cool that you are in an unnamed discord with a lot of top 100 players but its ok because you arn’t in the discord with jesus and former president bush so I can claim the victory on that

            stop being such an angry little man, its not good for your health

            https://i.imgur.com/69a0Zf7.png

          • rvd1ofakind October 18, 2018 12:14 am
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            I didn’t block you, I did quit the discord as it is pointless for me to be in it unless I have painting questions. The mod for the competitive channel is a giant memer, so there’s no point of me being there since it’s half serious answers, half memes. So the fact that you removed the # from me was actually a pretty good reality check of “what am I even doing here, I should rather talk in the one place where people know what they’re talking about” and so I quit the discord and dakka too. So thanks… I guess?

            I’d rather not disclose where I am talking with them on because I know some fanatics might go and try to bomb review stuff at 1 star with bots just because I’m in a chat. Yes, some people are that crazy.

            And I love this image that people get of me being the Angry Video Game Nerd, slamming the keyboard when I’m typing stuff. Because that couldn’t be farther from the truth.

          • Drake Iddon October 18, 2018 1:20 am
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            the mod in the competitive channel 1: gave you every chance to stop being autistic and spamming the same image when you had nothing else to say and 2: received only negative comments from other users regarding you and petitioned for you to be muted anyway

            Instead i tried to find a middleground by saying that some TOs may very well agree with you, but you even got aggressive at that comment because it didnt 100% fit to your world view, then you went back to spamming the images so I figured just removing you from the channel where you are toxic was better than muting you

          • rvd1ofakind October 18, 2018 1:31 am
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            I mean sure, that’s fine. You do you. Would be nice to get any warnings about people saying they want me to be muted as I never really argued with anyone but you and I’ve had some people messaging me for advice or just a chat so it definitelly wasn’t all “only negative comments”

            And I don’t think I “spammed images”. If you consider that spamming rules images, I consider you spamming memes back at me.

          • Drake Iddon October 18, 2018 2:45 am
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            you literally kept the same image of the rulebook over and over again when people disagreed with you, you did get warnings saying that you would have your access removed if you didnt stop, so instead you started spamming the quote from the rulebook until i removed your tag

            https://i.imgur.com/MyWNt7n.png

            either way if you feel that I overstepped you can complain to the other mods, but not a single person has come out to say they were against me getting rid of you, its been the opposite infact

            either way have fun in your other discord, maybe ill see you in the facebook and whatsapp chats with other top 100s aswell 😛

          • rvd1ofakind October 18, 2018 3:02 am
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            Oh you mean that thing. That wasn’t image spamming, btw.

            And I definitelly regret going down to your level in that conversation of mememing and spamming. That one was my bad. Your responses were basically the same thing: “All” “except this” “All” “except this” was the dialogue. And where I quoted actual rules from the book, you had nothing to quote where they straight up said “Redeployment is not reinforcements”. That’s why I thought you were just trolling.

          • Drake Iddon October 18, 2018 3:09 am
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            now you are definitely not being sincere, over the course of multiple days everyone who disagreed with you points was “you arnt taking into account of the FAQs” and the massive point of contention was that despite the rules that you quoted there still ended up being an FAQ that specifically stopped you using warptime on redeployed units

            That specific FAQ being removed from the latest batch of FAQs sets a huge precedent, yet you responded to that with just repeating the same rules over and over

            if you think that this is memeing then you are either refusing to take other peoples arguments seriously or you dont understand why its an argument, the fact that it went down the same road multiple times over multiple days supports both the former and the latter

          • Michael Corr
            Michael Corr October 18, 2018 3:15 am
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            Hahahaha!

            “I don’t call people who disagree with me crybabies, manchildren or troll.”

            Have you not even read your comments on this post?!? You have used all three descriptions for people you have had issues with online in this very post.

            Also, the goal of going to a tournament is not just to win. Many people do go to tournaments just to try and win, but there are a lot who go for the social and hobby aspect. Neither is wrong, but entirely discounting one group of 40k fans because you don’t agree with them is just ridiculous.

            I go to many tournaments here in the UK. I am in no illusion that I will ever likely win one or place in the top positions, but still go and enjoy them nonetheless.

          • rvd1ofakind October 18, 2018 3:29 am
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            @drake
            Yes, I never took that argument seriously, because I think it’s a BS argument. For me that was an equavalent of the “put model on its side to melee ruins” on the level of stupidity.

            @Michael Corr
            Oh, I will call a mass of people something like that because they’re faceless. I won’t respond to people who disagree with me in a 1 on 1 discussion with “Oh you machild idiot, can’t you see that I’m right?”, which a lot of people do online, BTW.

            I’m not discounting people who go to tournaments to have fun. That’s fine. I’m discounting people who go to tournaments to have fun, who then flame everyone else for bringing “WAAC lists” or using “WAAC tactics”.

          • Michael Corr
            Michael Corr October 18, 2018 3:38 am
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            You seem to be genuinely clueless as to why people don’t like arguing with you here. Every genuine complaint seems to be responded with “I don’t do that” even when you do, and when this gets pointed out, then that time didn’t count.

            You may have some valid points and insights to offer, but it is wrapped up in such obnoxious language and negativity that most people here don’t even bother with it.

            Just like now, you have completely de-railed the conversation with pointless trolling and arguments.

          • Drake Iddon October 18, 2018 3:45 am
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            If you didn’t take the argument seriously then you are literally just trying to discard rulings to get what you want (discarding the fact that GW have pointed out that redeployments dont count as reinforcements, for example) and that you are only continuing the argument to rile people up with an “im better than you” obnoxious stance

            and you are calling me a manchild for removing that toxic behavior from my channel, speaks volumes mate

          • Drake Iddon October 18, 2018 3:47 am
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            “who then flame everyone else for bringing “WAAC lists” or using “WAAC tactics”.”

            the irony is you did the exact same thing when you are complaining about the put the marine on the side scenario, which is entirely legal

      • Trantatrus October 17, 2018 6:02 am #

        Lol! spat my coffee

  9. Pepin October 17, 2018 5:29 am #

    I love the show and listen to it every week, but I too have to admit that there have been multiple instances in the last several weeks/months where the interactions have been quite unbearable.

    Whilst it’s not helpful to turn this into a personal attack towards AB, it’s fair to say that he’s at the forefront of the issue at hand…

    As Shaylynn says above, she knows him IRL so perhaps she didn’t think that he was being rude / out of turn when he was cutting her off, as Pablo says above. However, for the listener, that subtlety was lost and it came out as quite rude, disrespectful and quite frankly a poor listening experience.

    Apologies if this comes out negatively but it’s feedback to the show so hopefully is taken constructively.

  10. Trantatrus October 17, 2018 6:12 am #

    I mentioned it months ago but it seems it was ignored… Sean needs to let people finish before he disagrees. It’s great if he knows exactly where their sentence is going, as a listener however I do not. I’d like to at least hear out the point you’re disagreeing with before you shoot it down, all these unfinished perspectives because you’re so sure you know better is irritating as hell. Long time listener here but I gotta be honest, last chance for me. If it happens next episode with him Sean then I’m skipping all future episodes with him in them. Sorry AP, but this is meant to be a production for people to listen to and absorb, not a debate with your friends after a few beers where the loudest voice wins. Let people talk.

  11. Ishagu October 17, 2018 6:16 am #

    Well, AP can take some feedback from the comments. I’ve not listened to this Podcast yet but it might have been an off day.

    Pablo, invite me back on to the podcast sometime! I’m bursting with opinions on all things competitive 40k at the moment and can definitely put up a fight against some of the bigger personalities that frequent it lol

    • Petey Pab
      Petey pab October 17, 2018 10:52 am #

      Shoot me an email sometime!

  12. Ghostvalley October 17, 2018 6:48 am #

    In general, I enjoy contrary viewpoints on stuff like this, as it gives me more opportunity to consider what I think vs being swayed by group think.

    I thought this episode did a decent job as a 101 to the psychic phase but personally I got more value out of the movement episode. Not really offering any constructive criticisms or anything just stating my personal opinion because Internet.

    • Petey Pab
      Petey pab October 17, 2018 10:52 am #

      That’s fair, the psychic phase isn’t for everyone. I thought it was a pretty good episode on playback too.

      • Ghostvalley October 17, 2018 2:34 pm #

        Agreed. Could just be the nature of the psychic phase. Movement is so much bigger than often gets credit for and hey, as you guys said, some armies don’t even participate in the psychic phase.

        • WestRider October 17, 2018 11:31 pm #

          The movement phase is arguably the most important phase in the whole game, so, really, it’s not surprising that there’s less to get from a discussion of any other phase.

          • rvd1ofakind October 17, 2018 11:55 pm
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            They also talked about deployment in there too. So yeah, that episode had way more to talk about.

  13. Lord Toranaga October 17, 2018 11:31 am #

    Unfortunately Sean certainly lived up to his moniker this episode. If he wasn’t being abusive to his supposed friends as others have pointed out, then certainly he was being rude to his audience.

    I respect his fluency with the written word in his various tactics articles and reviews on this site, in that he can make rather dry subject matter entertaining and insightful. However, when it comes to interacting with other people at times, both on this podcast, and on this forum, he sorely needs to work on the professional charisma required for an entertaining and compelling listening experience that draws listeners back for more and encourages interaction. Enough with the pedantic arrogance, the man would do well to listen before he speaks.

    • Az October 20, 2018 8:46 pm #

      This guy has the right of it.

      Sean is clearly someone who knows his shit and could add tons more value to the show if he’d only stop with the rude pedantry. I’m pretty new to the competitive scene and a relatively new player and even I can see that 40k revolves around pedantic discussion but there’s a tactful way to do it.

      Frankly, I don’t care that that’s the rapport he has with his friends and neither should the show. Most of your others guests make the show fun, Pablo is light and jokey even when he disagrees and makes the show fun, if a guest is there and sucks all the fun out of it then what real value do they add. Personally it just makes me want to turn it off.

  14. Clark October 17, 2018 11:50 am #

    Turned off the podcast after 30 minutes. Sean’s constant interruptions were painful for me as a listener. I can see how between three friends that interjecting while having a debate isn’t necessarily rude or unwarranted however it was a turn off to not get someone’s full sentence or idea before they were told they were wrong.

    Generally speaking I enjoy Chapter Tactics and most guests however this episode did not flow for me.

  15. Alpharius Walks October 17, 2018 4:22 pm #

    This episode was definitely quite awkward to listen to at times. I am sure the comments above cover most of it but if you are not hearing what is coming through to the audience I would suggest asking someone you trust but who is not familiar with the podcast or other hosts to listen to it and help you identify what can be improved or avoided in the future.

    I am sure Lady of Titan has some excellent insight into the game from playing 40k on hard mode by choice. It would be good to hear that come through more in a future episode.

  16. Mike D. October 18, 2018 10:42 am #

    Great episode guys; don’t listen to the haters.

  17. Luke October 19, 2018 4:18 am #

    Sean ruined this episode for me. I your going to have him on again make sure you have iNcontrol to keep him in check.

    • Don October 23, 2018 12:55 pm #

      Why is it that when Sean talks every sentence is posed (or has inflection at the end of it) as if it were a question? A little of that goes a really long way.

      This was a pretty rough episode…I could only listen to about half of it before I had to shut it off. Much like 6th edition, you need to the full cast of super friends to get your death star powered up to full capacity.

  18. Laurence Elliott October 23, 2018 11:34 pm #

    Pablo one of the skills of a good podcast/interview host is to control the guests in a constructive way. AP’s rudeness was in another league today, but sometimes people do just have off-days, but when that happens you need to start stepping in

  19. jeff October 26, 2018 4:41 pm #

    New listener who started with #86 and loved it, moved to #85 next – I came here to see if anyone brought up Sean’s tone in this episode and was surprised to see all the comments. I’m not familiar with the hosts yet so I wanted to see if this was normal. Starting early in the episode he began to cut off the female host, and continued throughout the episode. I guess based on the earlier comments on this page that they are very comfortable with this type of conversation style but I found it unbearable despite the amazing and informational content in this episode! I’d love to hear more from each of these hosts, but I do think that each person should give a little more space to each other to speak. Amazing podcast series, thank you!

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