GW Grognard: Breaking News – No Controversy at Big Event!

Hey everyone, Adam, from TFG Radio, here to bring you all the news that’s fit to print (in an electronic format)

I thought Grits was something you ate.

As you know, last weekend I attended the Bay Area Open. It is always a lot of fun where I get to see a lot of my 40K friends and fans of the show. I went 3-3 with Imperial Knights, and John went 6-0, also with Imperial Knights, and came in 2nd place. There were plenty of hard fought games and there was plenty of action on the top tables, and Twitch stream, over the course of the weekend. What wasn’t there was any type of controversy or any other big issues.

Disappointing right? Almost every major, known, event in recent memory has had some issue either in regards to the top tables, to the tournament itself. We’ve had incorrect army lists, bad sportsmanship, outright cheating, and bad management, to go along with all the number of small hiccups that occur at any event, let alone a major event. That’s not to say people didn’t try. Some were saying that there was drama with the clocks, that the event was a “shit show”, and that someone had an illegal list (they didn’t). So it really wasn’t for lack of trying  to find some big scandal.

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Although some of what I said did actually happen, I’ll let you figure out which ones, it really wasn’t a big deal. A lot of the issues I just mentioned were really a non issue and were easy to correct, or easy to explain (damn you Games Workshop and your Index flow chart).  Did everything go smoothly at the event? Of course not. There will always be some type of snag, or hiccup, when you run an event, no matter the size. You cannot control the actions of the hundreds of players at the event you are also attending, but only control how you react to what happens. I think what some people need to do is try to just enjoy the event and not try to create some type of drama or try to make something bigger than it actually is.

Now, I’m not saying just turn a blind eye to things like cheating, modelling for advantage, or some of the other things that could occur at a tournament. What I am saying is don’t go looking for trouble, especially if there isn’t any. If you do that, nothing good will come out of it and it may end up backfiring on you in some karmic way.

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About Adam

Adam, aka Latin Gandalf, has been gaming since the early eighties and has played 40K since Rogue Trader (among a number of other games). He listens to more podcasts than any healthy person should and is currently the host for TFG Radio. He also is judges for LVO and head judges other major 40K Grand Tournaments.

11 Responses to “GW Grognard: Breaking News – No Controversy at Big Event!”

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    Donthemagnificent August 4, 2018 2:13 am #

    It was a good clean event. I love having no drama 🙂

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      Adam S. August 4, 2018 2:14 pm #

      I mean, I like drama as much as the next person, but to actively seek it just seems out of sorts.

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    Kevin Lantz August 4, 2018 10:10 pm #

    I love how the GW index flow sheet allowed for stim injectors until the FAQ…

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      Adam S. August 5, 2018 11:36 am #

      I, personally, would love it if GW said the flow chart was for Narrative and Open play only

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    Rob Butcher August 4, 2018 11:21 pm #

    The fact you need to write an article about this says a lot about the poor state of the gaming scene amongst some players whilst the rest of the world moves on.

    But please tell me when there was an incident at an official GW event or one on the Warhammer Tv twitch stream ? If one stream can manage this, why can’t others all the time. Are there different expectations ?

    And how much did the three hour game limit make a difference ? Did this make more of a difference than chess clocks ? Did having a smaller tournament (compared to 512+ at the coming LVO) make a difference ? Did all of the controversy in recent tournaments make others play more fairly or some not come at all ? Were players more forgiving of their opponents rules “misreadings” ? I welcome the news that a tournament went pretty fairly, but is some-one going to analysis all the reasons it worked ? There’s rarely only one reason.

    One interesting thing about the new “Kill Team” for Nova pack is two sections about sportsmanship … not winning at all costs, but letting everyone have a good time.

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      Adam S. August 5, 2018 11:30 am #

      Hard to say, as there really hasn’t been an issue at BAO for the last few years. I don’t think I could pinpoint the exact reason. It could also be a result of what’s been happening lately and no one whats to be the person everyone talks about.

      I don’t believe ETC had any major issues this weekend, except Team USA winning 😉

      • Reecius
        Reecius August 5, 2018 12:07 pm #

        BAO has never had a big scandal, really. There was an accusation of cheating one year but it was done in a weird way after the event so can’t take it too seriously, really.

    • Reecius
      Reecius August 5, 2018 12:05 pm #

      Why do you keep presenting Warhammer World as infallible, lol? I think it is great you support them but they’re not perfect. They just had an Ork player slow play his way to victory, and they had an AoS player blatantly cheat on camera on the dude got banned.

      While they do a great job they’re not perfect (nor is anyone). There’s things to learn form them but they have a lot of room to improve, too.

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    AngryPanda August 5, 2018 4:56 am #

    I doubt people go looking for trouble. The sort of thing that happened recently just gets thrown in your face. Using the occasion of a clean event to somehow turn this around seems like weak victim blaming and nothing more.

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      Adam S. August 5, 2018 11:35 am #

      There are a small number of people in the community who do actively look for “dirt” at major tournaments.

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    abusepuppy August 6, 2018 3:05 am #

    >and that someone had an illegal list

    There actually was at least one illegal list at the tournament, but the organizers caught it early in the first day and dealt with it appropriately. It just didn’t get a lot of press because it wasn’t at the top tables.

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