Chapter Tactics #56: The Road to Adepticon and Getting into a Tournament Mindset

Chapter Tactics is a 40k podcast which focuses on promoting better tactical play and situational awareness across all variations of the game. Today PeteyPab, and Geoff talk about what they are going to expect from the Adepticon meta, and freely talk about what it’s like to be a competitive player and getting into a tournament mindset. This is a great podcast for those of you who love late night post-tournament conversations between friends. There is a lot of great topic discussion and interesting tidbits about competition in general.

Show Notes:

  • Wondering where to find live coverage of the LVO? Click here for a comprehensive guide!
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  • Click here for a link for information on downloading best coast pairings app where you can find lists for most of the events I mentioned.
  • Chapter Tactics is back! With Weekly episodes and a lot of tactical insight, this is your place for all things 40k in 8th edition.
  • Check out the last episode of Chapter Tactics here. Or, click here for a link to a full archive of all of my episodes.
  • Want more tactical information about the new edition? Check out our 8th Edition article archive to help get a leg up on the competition!
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  • Intro by: Justin Mahar

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About Petey Pab

Aspiring 40k analyst, tournament reporter and Ultramarines enthusiast, Petey Pab only seeks to gather more knowledge about the game of 40k and share it with as many people as he can in order to unite both hobbyists and gamers. We are, after all, two sides of the same coin.

18 Responses to “Chapter Tactics #56: The Road to Adepticon and Getting into a Tournament Mindset”

  1. rvd1ofakind February 25, 2018 10:02 pm #

    So uhh… the actual podcast would be nice :p

    Anyway, played against eldar net-listy list in and here’s something you guys didn’t talk about: rangers are just straight up broken for their cost:
    60 pts for 5 dudes. So vanilla tacticals are a great comparison…
    Except they infiltrate, ALL snipe, cause mortal wounds and have a 3+ and -1 to hit. That’s CRAZY.

    • Dbiesto February 26, 2018 1:31 am #

      Rangers will be ignored with any nerf obviously. GW will overlook it because reapers are a real threat. Until people start doing the 3x battalion footdar reaper and ranger spam anyway ;-).

    • Dirtydeeds February 26, 2018 7:34 am #

      Sniping really isn’t a big deal… most characters are t4 or better and have good armor saves already (or enough wounds that it would take many turns to kill one character).

      The mortal wounds only happen on a 6 to wound, so not reliable.

      They’re good because they can help screen against deepstriking armies.

  2. Luke Bennett February 26, 2018 12:27 am #

    Any chance of the actual podcast?

  3. Petey Pab February 26, 2018 7:54 am #

    Hello everyone, i’m putting the audio in now. it looks like it didn’t upload properly.

  4. DCannon4Life February 26, 2018 12:18 pm #

    Very comprehensive conversation. I enjoyed it. With respect to the Vanguard tertiary, because it stipulates “at the start of your turn”, that means you have to move the unit into your opponent’s DZ and have it survive a round, no?

    Also, while I agree with your emphasis on Kill Points being key (they almost always are when included as part of a mission), it’s worth pointing out that the Primary missions are worth 30 victory points and the Modified Kill Points caps at 20. Additionally–and this is completely unique to AdeptiCon–players are competing to create a 20-point differential in order to earn the maximum score of 40 Battle Points, and Battle Points (as you mentioned) are what get you into the Top 16.

    As for the forthcoming GW FaQ (the March one), I happen to know that if it comes out two or more weeks before AdeptiCon, it will be in play. Otherwise, it will not.

    If you have questions, is the official channel for communication.


    • Petey Pab February 26, 2018 12:53 pm #

      Thanks for the information! It is very helpful, and I agree about the primary missions being more points and being worth looking at, I certainly will keep them in mind as I play.

      As for the Vanguard mission, I think we both just felt that it is very easy to score. In my practice games I never saw the “At the start of your turn” stipulation cause an issue. Though, obviously it would be easier if it was scored at the end of your turn.

  5. iNcontroL February 26, 2018 12:43 pm #

    Awesome, thanks for the info sir <3

  6. Agent X February 26, 2018 1:04 pm #

    I loved your side talk about age and reflexes and youth and risk. I would honestly listen to hours long discussion on that.

    It reminds me of a star trek article I read for the first time recently attempting to explain why humans have such a prominent place in the Federation even though they are physically weaker and mentally inferior to other species like Vulcans.

    I highly recommend the read plus comments it made me rethink exactly what “to boldly go” actually means in the context of humanity.

    The TLDR version is that young Pablo and his willingness to think outside the box are akin to Spartacus and the Battle of Mount Vesuvius (scaling down an impossible cliff face to outflank the pursuing roman force and defeat them).

    Sometimes an idea isn’t crazy but rather crazy like a fox and works for that very reason…it was never expected and there is no contingency plan in place

    • Cephalobeard February 26, 2018 1:37 pm #

      Same reason why things as innocuous as Sean Nayden or Nanavatis lists can dominate people. Often as they are, they don’t appear strong at face value, but once it flows together you see the true strength in an “interesting” list.

    • Petey Pab February 26, 2018 7:15 pm #

      Thank you!

      Yes, I am very glad we went on that little ramble, and I think Geoff and I both enjoyed talking about it. I’m reading this article right now and it is a good read. The one thing I always have to remember about my personality is I want to be known as the “Sean Nayden” type, however to get there you really need years of experience and practice first.

      • Sean February 28, 2018 9:52 am #

        But then you end up bringing 5 talos and the avatar of khaine to events.

  7. Donthemagnificent February 26, 2018 6:05 pm #

    Thanks for the mini-shout out Geoff! Keep up the great work you guys!

  8. AK_Sasquatch February 27, 2018 12:41 am #

    Another great podcast. Was worth the wait. So i had to leave a comment and give Geoff some kudos for his Office Space reference. Had me rolling, love that movie.

  9. Arabviking February 27, 2018 3:55 pm #

    Great podcast as always, awesome duo.

  10. N.I.B. February 28, 2018 1:15 am #

    Impossible to download. It just opens a web player!

  11. N.I.B. February 28, 2018 1:17 am #

    Anyway Geoff, haven’t heard anything from you about your LVO experience with the Nid brigade, would be interesting to hear your thoughts about your list and how it performed and about Tyranids in the post-LVO meta.

  12. Mark March 5, 2018 4:14 am #

    Considering you list, is there a reason you have not considered blood angels for the Space Marine detachement? Hammer captains benefit a lot from 3d6 charges, red thirst and extra d3 attacks stratagem.

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