Tyranid Codex Review – HQ: Hive Tyrant

Guess who’s back, back again? Danny from TFG Radio and one of your LVO 40k head judges, and yes, the cycle of birth and death begins anew as it is time to go through each and every entry in our brand-spanking new Tyranid Codex for 8th edition! It is only fitting we start with the most iconic leader of the Hive Fleets, the Hive Tyrant! Of course, Frontline has been doing these things for a while, so go check out that Tactics Corner.

The Hive Tyrant is the multi-tool of multi-tools for the HQ slot of Tyranids.  It can punch, it can shoot, it can sing, it can dance, and just about anything else.  Whether you want a gunboat, a melee threat, or a center support node, the Hive Tyrant can do it for you.

Weapons and Upgrades:

  • Monstrous Scything Talons : AP -3 Dmg 3 melee weapon that rerolls 1s to hit. If you have two, +1 attack.
  • Prehensile Pincer Tail:  1 bonus attack at Dmg D3.
  • Can replace Talons with the following in any combination:
  • Monstrous Rending Claws: AP-3 Dmg D3 melee weapon that can spike to -6 AP and 3 dmg. They are free.
  • Monstrous Boneswords: AP -2 Dmg 3 melee weapon that also gives +1 attack.
  • Monstrous Bonesword with Lash Whip: AP -2 Dmg 3 melee weapon that also allows the wielder to fight even if they are killed in melee before they activate.
  • Two Deathspitters with Slimer Maggots: Range 24″ S7 AP-1 D1 Assault 6 gun.  A slower, stronger dakka build.
  • Two Devourers with Brain Leeches: Range 18″ S6 AP 0 D1 Assault 12 gun.  No rerolls but hey, you can take another set and have 24 shots, so…even better.
  • Stranglethorn Cannon: Range 36″ S7 AP-1 D2  Assault D6 gun. You get +1 to hit against a unit of 10 or more models.  A blast weapon version of an autocannon that can work on light vehicles or help thin chaff.
  • Heavy Venom Cannon: Range 36″ S9  AP-2 Dmg 3 Assault D3 gun.  The long range Anti-tank weapon.
  • Wings: Gain extra movement and the ability to enter play from Reservers
  • Adrenal Glands: +1 to charge and advance rolls. If you want melee, auto-include.
  • Toxin Sacs: Rolling a 6 to wound is +1 damage in melee. Eh, I am not entirely sold, but if you have a few points laying around…

So wow, as always, the Hive Tyrant has a wide variety of kit available.  There are a lot of avenues to explore here, but in the simplest terms, you can make a dakka Flyrant like in 7th, a melee Flyrant, a cheap, spammable melee tyrant, or a long-range shooting walking tyrant. You can also do a combination of the above, and I am intrigued by the possibility of half-shooting, half-fighting Tyrants.

Here’s the crazy thing, all of those are valid.  While one may prove the most efficient, I do think any of those Tyrants can find their way into a list that can do well at an event.  Most people who ripped off their Devourers may be swearing since the dakka-Flyrant is back with a vengeance.

Special Rules:

  • Shadow in the Warp: -1 to psychic tests within 18″. Does not affect TYRANID units.
  • Synapse: Fearless bubble of 12 inches.
  • The Will of the Hive Mind: Synapse bubble for Fearless is 18 inches.
  • Swooping Assault: If you take wings, you can deploy via Reserves.
  • Death Throes: When a Tyrant dies, roll a D6, and on a 6, all units within 3″ suffer D3 mortal wounds.
  • Psychic Barrier: A 4+ invulnerable save. (Thank you, Hive Mind. Thank you.)
  • Psyker: You get 2 powers plus smite, can cast 2 powers and deny 1.

Yep, that is a lot of special rules again, and all of them are money.  The biggest addition in this edition is that Hive Tyrants finally get an invulnerable save, and thank the Hive Ship, it is a 4++.  This really does help answer one of the Bugs’ biggest weaknesses.  SitW is great for helping shut down Smite Spam or even Warp Time as a -1 penalty to cast is significant.  I really enjoy Death Throes as well since a 3 inch aura of D3 mortal wounds can make killing a Tyrant a painful experience.

So, with all of this mind, what can we see here? Let’s start with what we all loved (or not) about 7th edition, the Flyrant!  With the change to Devourers and Deathspitters with their new shiny worms, you may not get the rerolls of the old days, but man, you are pumping out a lot of shots.  With four sets of Devourers with Brainleech, you get 24 shots at S6 or with four sets of Deathspitters with Slimer, you get 12 shots at S7.  That’s a lot of dakka, especially on a BS 3+ bug.   Thankfully, a big change from the Index, there is now a reason to take one over the other.  Devourers are certainly more shots, but at shorter range with no AP, so it becomes a good question of what you want your Flyrant to hunt.  24 S6 shots is great for annihilating small units or taking big bites out of chaff units like Conscripts, Cultists, or Brimstones, but it will struggle against anything with a decent save, and of course, heavier targets like  most vehicles.  Deathspitters are not as mathematically strong as Devourers against most targets as gaining +1 S -1 AP and 6 inches of range does not take enough sting out of losing 12 shots, but with the Flyrants now native ability to deepstrike, that 6 inches of range matters a lot more.  As you have to enter play more than 9 away from enemy models, a Devourer’s range is effectively only 9 inches, so any army that uses chaff or blockers can keep your Flyrant away from any juicy targets, but this is much harder to do with Deathspitters.  Especially against gunline armies, a Flyrant with Deathspitters can drop into a corner and still reach out and give hugs to a valuable unit inside the chaff screen.   For pure kill, Devourers are likely better, but a Deathspitter Flyrant has more flexibility in terms of positioning.

Don’t forget the awesome stratagems like Pathogenic Slime for Dmg 2 Devourer shots, which can start to add up rather quickly or Death Frenzy for another round of shooting if your opponent takes down a Flyrant.  Really, the Devourer is typically the better choice in most cases if you are looking only at math, but I would still give Quad-Deathspitter a chance, especially against any gunline that hides valuable units behind a wall of bodies.

A melee Flyrant is also quite doable now.  You can go super budget (unless FAQ’d) with just double Monstrous Rending Claws and Adrenal Glands for 175 points, and while that is only 4 attacks, they are still S6 AP-3 Dmg D3 with the ability to spike to essentially ignore armor saves.  You can load up on Scything Talons for +1 attack and reroll ones (which on a healthy tyrant is a 2+ rerollable to hit) or can go double Bonesword for +2 attacks at AP-2.  When combined with the Behemoth Hive Fleet and Adrenal Glands, that means that you have just about a 50% chance of sticking your charge out of reserve with the reroll from Behemoth and +1 from the Adrenal Glands.  Not too bad at all, especially Turn 3 where there is likely more space to land to hunt more vulnerable targets. Don’t forget that as they can FLY, melee Flyrants can jump chaff lines.  That is super helpful, so starting on the board can be a valid choice too, depending on the enemy composition.

A walking Tyrant is also not a bad idea anymore.  At T7 with 12 wounds and a 4++, that is relatively resilient, especially on a model that can be a great synapse lynchpin in the center of your army for under 165 points, who can still lay down a little bit of firepower and have some melee pop with a Heavy Venom Cannon and Rending Claws.  When you factor in that Tyrant Guard are pretty good in general, especially since they take unsaved wounds, not hits, and when you have a model with a 4++ and perhaps a 6+ Feel No pain from the Leviathan trait or even a 5+ Feel No Pain from Catalyst, you can have a fire magnet that will absorb a lot of punishment since anything that gets through all of that defense just gets shunted to the Tyrant Guard.  You can also go with Jormungandr for a sweet 2+ armor save while you stroll up the field laying down fire, and a 2+/4++ is pretty nasty, especially with the ever ubiquitous Malanthrope throwing out a -1 to hit.

Even dirt cheap at 148 for double Rending Claws and Adrenal Glands, a Hive Tyrant running up the board can be legitimately worrisome, especially since they are still a level 2 psyker who can smite and deny.  If you go this route, I’d recommend Gorgon for a 2+ rerollable to hit to make those 4 attacks go just a bit farther.   Walking Tyrants can be somewhat spammable simply for the fact that they are cheap, resilient, and can do a lot of damage, and they can spread that sweet Shadow In The Warp around the board.  You can also go with Kraken for the 3d6 pick the highest advance roll to make sure that you are flying up that board without wings, and a few cheap melee Tyrants backed by swarming Genestealers presents some target overload for your opponent.

So, what’s the downside here? Well, not a whole lot really, but the Tyrant is far from “broken”.   It is doubtful you’ll see the return of the Flyrant list simple because hey cannot fight well at all. With only 4 attacks at S6 and no AP, they really aren’t doing much to anybody, and well, that’s not their job.  They also do not have the old Flyer protections, which is really what made the 7th edition Flyrant so powerful.    Should you take five? No, but one or two can be excellent flankers that can drop in from unexpected angles and bring some decent firepower to bear without worrying about being shot off the board before engaging, but if you spend 1000+ points to bring 5, you are not going to see huge returns in many games.

Tyrants can be targeted without restriction as they are W12 and even flying, they can be assaulted and shot without issue, which is important to keep in mind.  With the loss of an attack down to 4, their melee output isn’t insane, and at S6, they are wounding most heavy targets on 5s, so they are a bit in the damned middle ground.  They don’t pump out enough melee attacks to really threaten chaff, and they don’t hit hard enough with their attacks to threaten big targets.  Tyrants require a bit of finesse to make sure they are hitting the right targets as sending a melee Tyrant into a conscript blob is a bit foolish, and don’t expect even two Tyrants to take down Magnus in a fight.  These aren’t kisses of death by any means, but it does keep Tyrants from being too overpowered.  You definitely want a few, but I doubt that spamming them will be a top-tier build, but hey, 5 bare-bones melee tyrants with adrenal glands is only 742. That could catch some folks unprepared to say the least.

Really, the Tyrant is everything and everywhere you want it to be.  Whether as a dedicated gunboat, a shock assault monster, a backline heavy cannon, or just a support piece, the Tyrant is still a go-to choice for Tyranids.  While you may not want five anymore, you still want some, and heck, since they are cheaper now than they were, you may end up with five.

And due to popular demand, overall, I’d score the Hive Tyrant a solid 85 out of 100.  You can certainly see them in a purely competitive build, at least one, but a competitive Tyranid army doesn’t require one.

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Long-long time 40K player, part of the triumvirate of head 40K judges at LVO, writer, educator, tyranid-enthusiast, disciple of Angron, man about town.

21 Responses to “Tyranid Codex Review – HQ: Hive Tyrant”

  1. Raupaw November 17, 2017 7:44 am
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    Nice review, just one thing.
    “Devourer is typically the better choice in most cases because of stratagems like Scorch Bugs which give them +1 to wound”

    That stratagem only affect fleshborer and fleshbourer hive, not devourer.

    • tag8833 November 17, 2017 9:29 am
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      My guess he was thinking of the one that makes it do one additional damage.

      • winterman November 17, 2017 10:11 am
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        That affects devourer and deathspitter though, so not a reason to take one over the other (other than volume of fire I guess).

    • Danny Ruiz
      Danny Ruiz November 18, 2017 6:56 pm
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      You are too right, sir. For some reason, Devourer got stuck in my head, but probably because I was thinking about Termagants. That’s a good thing in my mind since it makes the Devourer less of an auto-include. Will amend to note that out.

  2. winterman November 17, 2017 10:16 am
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    Great article. Looking forward to more.

  3. hugz November 17, 2017 11:04 am
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    While I agree with the overall assessment of a tyrant’s melee effectiveness, it is worth reiterating that tyrants didn’t ‘lose an attack’. The awkward wording on their index profile that required them to use their 5th attack on their tail weapon has been changed to simply say tyrants get 4 normal attacks, and their tail makes one extra attack.

  4. Jural November 17, 2017 11:18 am
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    A Hive Tyrant with Adrenal glands only needs to get within 1″ of the enemy on a charge, so a roll of 7 works too. You have a 58% chance of succeeding without a re-roll, and an 83% chance with a re-roll (it’s actually slightly closer to 90% as you can use the “Re-roll one dice” stratagem as well.)

    It’s an awesome reason to take Behemoth- your Trygons, Hive Tyrants, or what not has an extremely good chance of making melee.

    Even units such as Genestealers, who can’t get adrenal glands, will make it 2/3 of the time.

    • winterman November 17, 2017 11:38 am
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      He needs to get within 1″ but has to start more than 9″ away, so he needs a 9″ without adrenal and an 8″ with glands. This is reiterated in the Designer notes pdf.

      • Jural November 17, 2017 11:56 am
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        Yep- I remember it was FAQ’d, but for some reason remembered it the opposite way!

    • WestRider November 17, 2017 11:39 am
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      Nope. You need to come in *more than* 9″ away, so you need a 9″ Charge to make it. An 8″ Charge will leave you more than 1″ away by definition. It was confirmed in one of the FAQs.

      • Jural November 17, 2017 11:49 am
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        I thought they FAQ’d it the other way? I’ll look again!

        In that case, HT still makes the charge 67% of the time, or over 70% with re-roll.

        • R4zl November 21, 2017 3:58 am
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          Actually 8 on two dice is about 41,67% and with a re-roll that goes to 65,97% (or 72,45% if you use a CP re-roll on one dice if the other one is a 4 or more).

          Same math for other charge numbers for comparison. Those adrenal glands are so worth it!
          Charge range: straight up charge/with re-roll/with re-roll and CP-re-roll on 4 or more
          7: 58,33%/82,63%/84,95%
          8: 41,67%/65,97%/72,45%
          9: 27,78%/47,84%/56,94%

  5. WestRider November 17, 2017 11:37 am
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    Because none of the Melee options other than ScyTals stack, it seems like Hybrid Tyrants are a really strong possibility now. One pair of Rending Claws* or BoneSwords, plus a heavy Bio-Cannon, and you’ve got a pretty solid combined firepower/counter-assault/synapse/psychic node to hold the center of a swarm.

    *I can’t believe these didn’t get re-priced in the Codex. Either that or restricted purely to BroodLords (and other things if I’m missing any) that get them as a default option.

    • Jural November 17, 2017 1:02 pm
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      It’s also a cool to have the option of the Balethorn (if Kronos) or Miasma relics. Neither are auto includes, but both very solid against the right list.

      I’m seriously considering how to run my winged tyrant. I have him set up with twin devourers now…, but going hybrid is tempting

  6. iNcontroL November 17, 2017 12:15 pm
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    Nice writeup! Loving the nid content 🙂

  7. HM November 17, 2017 11:46 pm
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    why does scorch bug give +1 to wound to devourer?

  8. JohnDrake6 November 18, 2017 6:20 am
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    Another thing to note – 3 or 4 of the 148 point walking tyrants, with 1 squad of guard, and 3+ venomthropes (or a malanthrope if you like FW) can be a potent, if expensive group. Huge synapse bubble, smites, galore, catalyst on the guard so that you dump wounds from all of them on the guard (effectively tripling the value of catalyst. Now if you have the 6+ fnp, it does double because when the tyrant fails, the guard still gets his 5+ from catalyst. Or play jormungandar for the 2+ save with – w to hit

    • Blight November 18, 2017 10:12 pm
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      Wouldn’t the guard also get the leviathan 6+ damage ignore?
      So 6+++,5++++,6+++++?

  9. JohnDrake6 November 18, 2017 6:20 am
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    Sorry, -1 to hit…

    • N.I.B. November 19, 2017 11:09 pm
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      -1 to hit until the Venomthropes suffer 3 wounds on a T4 model, because their design is stupid. They should be characters, or remove the ‘below 3 models’ limit for Monsters.

      • Nerosolja November 22, 2017 10:55 am
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        Bring a malenthrope or an extra Venomthrope…or hide them out of LOS.

        BUT…I agree they shouldn’t be target-able from a 48″ lascannon to be one shotted. Or maybe if they are clustered with Zoanthropes they share the 3++ in a bubble.