Chapter Tactics #34: Xenos 2 Index Review, Orks, Tau, Tyranids, and GSC

Chapter Tactics is a 40k podcast which focuses on promoting better tactical play and situational awareness across all variations of the game. Today PeteyPab and Paul McKelvey from the Best Coast Pairings team dive into the first episode of his series covering the Indexes of 8th edition. We also cover the Boise GT, the first large event of the season. 

QOTD: What are the best units in the Xenos 2 Index?  

Show Notes:

  • This is Episode 1 in a series of 5 where I will be covering the entire index with a special guest who has intimate knowledge of the index and the competitive scene.
  • We also cover the results of the first large GT of the season and go over some of the winning lists in the past week.
  • Chapter Tactics is back! With Weekly episodes and a lot of tactical insight, this is your place for all things 40k in 8th edition.
  • Check out the last episode of Chapter Tactics here. Or, click here for a link to a full archive of all of my episodes.
  • Want more tactical information about the new edition? Check out our 8th Edition article archive to help get a leg up on the competition!
  • If you want to skip to the list building tactics content skip to 23:00 in the audio below.


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About Petey Pab

Aspiring 40k analyst, tournament reporter and Ultramarines enthusiast, Petey Pab only seeks to gather more knowledge about the game of 40k and share it with as many people as he can in order to unite both hobbyists and gamers. We are, after all, two sides of the same coin.

10 Responses to “Chapter Tactics #34: Xenos 2 Index Review, Orks, Tau, Tyranids, and GSC”

  1. cephalobeard July 3, 2017 4:28 am #

    Ah, Perfect. Exactly what I needed to make it through a slow day at work.

  2. DavidDavis July 3, 2017 5:07 am #

    I do enjoyed the podcasts, i just wish you would spend more time actually going through the weeds of the different faction rather that touching on them so lightly maybe even go into some of the math and efficiency of the different units.

    It would have been amazing to listen to your gesu talk more in dept about some more theoretical Tau army lists and maybe go into some match up tactics, like how should Tau deal with a knight army if they don’t fusion commander spam.

    Seeing as we are calling out illegal lists, your 3 knight + BobbyG; if your re-rolling hits and wounds on the Knights then your use of him is _illegal_, Guilliman provides Re-roll hits to Ultramarines while knights are , feel free to refer to the designers commentary on this clarification.

    • DavidDavis July 3, 2017 5:11 am #

      reply edit, because of formatting making words invisible

      “Seeing as we are calling out illegal lists, your 3 knight + BobbyG; if your re-rolling hits and wounds on the Knights then your use of him is _illegal_, Guilliman provides Re-roll hits to CHAPTER Ultramarines while the knights are HOUSEHOLD , feel free to refer to the designers commentary on this clarification.”

      • Petey Pab July 3, 2017 9:15 am #

        David, RG gives them reroll to hit rolls of 1. Of course he doesn’t give them reroll everything.

        • DavidDavis July 3, 2017 1:18 pm #

          Chapter Tactics ep 33 @ 41:56 til 43:45 – you didnt correct your guests misquote of guilliman’s rules; had to assume

          Anyway me throwing wrenches into your wheels aside, keep up the good work, just give us more protein in this wonderful chapter tactics shake of yours

  3. Icoop July 3, 2017 1:48 pm #

    I think GSC will be fine as long as they’re paired with AM or/and Tyranids detachments. They seem more like an expansion pack than a full faction. Neophytes are kind of underwhelming, basically ambushing Guardsmen, why not just take the real thing with access to orders and commissars. Acolytes are pretty rad though with hand flamers and mining melee weapons. Purestrain + Cult Ambush or P.Genestealers with chimera will probably be their strongest mechanics.

  4. DirtyDeeds July 4, 2017 4:28 am #

    Shadowseers give a bubble of -1 to wound, not -1 to hit

  5. Nick Wenker July 4, 2017 9:36 am #

    Commentary on storm ravens ignored that most armies can’t even assault the flyers with many if any good assault units, and that the will kill like 2 knights a turn especially with Gullimen. Really undersold how hard it is for other armies to deal with storm raven spam.

    • Vercingatorix July 5, 2017 7:13 am #

      I haven’t listened to the podcast but I think the biggest problem with those storm raven armies is some kind of heavy smite with pile of wounds army. I think that’s definitely going to be a type of army list that people need to prepare for, a bunch of smiing characters protected by a bile of wounds.

  6. Jason Stone July 20, 2017 5:18 am #

    Listened to the first 45 minutes, it felt very rambling and more focused on looking at the armies played in the tournament you looked at and not on the Xenos 2 book at all.

    In fact in the first 45minutes none of the armies you talked about were from the book you mentioned.

    you talked about stormravens, you talked about knights, you talked about harlequins.

    I was hoping to actually get information about the armies in the index you titled the show on but after listening to 45minutes and not getting there and not having more detailed show notes it makes it very hard to clean useful stuff from

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