Updates to the ITC FAQ and 2017 Season Missions Are Live!

Captain Morgan from Forge the Narrative here with a quick update for you guys on the 2017 Season ITC. I’ve been over here are the FLG studio typing away at some cool new updates for you 40k fans.

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Changes to the ITC FAQ and Format Pages

First and foremost, we have overhauled the design and contents of the ITC FAQ for you guys. This has included additional reconciling to the Games Workshop FAQ’s, as well as design and layout improvements. Extra effort was made to make sure that the ITC FAQ interferes with the GW FAQ’s as little as possible – the only exceptions being made for issues the community has worked on in community polls or things that haven’t been addressed by GW yet.

Here are some of the things that you can expect to see different on the ITC FAQ:

  • The Outline feature on the left has been re-organized and structured to help players navigate the document more easily when looking for specific sections in the FAQ
  • Each faction now has a link to the pertinent GW FAQ (where one exists) right in their section so you can just click the link to be transported to the relevant FAQ on GW’s website.
  • Imperial Armor units’ FAQ errata questions have been consolidated into their relevant faction section – you will no longer have to bounce between the IA section and your faction’s section.
  • Instructions for easy download to a PDF have been added for those who like to have the document handy in your PDF reader software on mobile devices.
  • The title page shows which quarter this FAQ is current to with the last edit date so its easy to tell if your FAQ is current or not.
  • Readability improvements and organizational re-structuring.
  • Deletion of redundant information.
  • 10 pages of the previous FAQ’s content has been cut & consolidated!

With that room opened up, the Army Composition Guidelines from the FLG website were incorporated into the FAQ  itself at the end, which means that you won’t have to navigate between the FAQ and FLG format page –it’s all there in one place. Even with the addition of this content, the FAQ itself is now much shorter than it was previously.

I'm gonna need a new red pen...

I’m gonna need a new red pen…

That’s not the only thing inbound…

The 2017 ITC Mission Packs are now live!

Huge thanks to everyone involved in making this happen: the NOVA and Renegade Open staff, the ITC Judges, and the BCP staff for this combined effort.

What we have are 3 events missions blended into one ITC missions package. You can play a set of missions (going Renegade Open style, for example) or pick and choose missions to have a really unique tournament experience! The math has been balanced on the missions so they score equivalent to one another. You can download either the combined pack for all of them, or individual packs to run mission sets.

The Best Coast Pairings app should be updating tonight with all of the new info. Please be sure to update your app when it does so to be sure you have the latest version of it.

Enjoy!

ITC 2017 FAQ, Format and Scenarios

ITC 2017 FAQ and Format Guidelines

2017 ITC Combined Mission Pack

2017 ITC Missions Pack

2017 NOVA Missions Pack

2017 Renegade Open Missions Pack

With our powers combined...

With our powers combined…

So What Does This Mean?

The inclusion of multiple mission formats means that players in the ITC will have more mission variety available to them than ever before. One of the best way to help balance the game is through mission design, and the combined efforts of the teams for NOVA, RO, and ITC have worked hard to bring you the flexibility to choose missions that serve the needs and desires of players in your area the best.

OK team, let's form Voltron!

OK team, let’s form Voltron!

What Has Changed?

The new missions have been re-pointed to be equivalent to each other, which means that you can run the missions packs either as straight ITC/NOVA/RO, or you can mix and match them for your event without having to worry about points not adding up correctly at the end of the tournament.

The points for each of the ITC missions have changed to provide 8 points (instead of 4)  for both Primary and Secondary Objectives, while the Tertiary Objectives are still worth 1 point each for a max of 3 points. The NOVA missions score 9 for the primary objectives, a max of 6 for the secondary, and 4 for the tertiary objectives. RO missions score 8 for primary, 8 for secondary, and 3 max for tertiary. Additionally, NOVA missions have been capped as to how many points they can give up to the losing player in order not to skew their performance when compared to the other missions types in tournaments that mix missions.

Max points for each mission will total to 19 across the board for all missions. This was the easiest way to keep the missions from each format working as intended, but also allowing the scoring to match up across the board.

Additionally, we combined all the missions into a single mission packet so they are all available in the same place. If you want to print individual pages for your mission package, then make sure you select the specific pages you want to print in your printer settings. Be sure that you have all the explanatory information for each mission pack together for your players so that they will all be able to reference the pertinent information.

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Will the New Missions Work in the BCP App?

Yes, you can mix and match them as much as you want, and they’ll all calculate correctly in the app. If you do run into any bugs when reporting scores, be sure to send the BCP folks a message explaining what happened so it can get fixed as soon as possible.

It’s been a busy few days over here at FLG headquarters. I hope that these changes help you guys out as you are out running events. If you guys have ideas for things that you feel would help make these documents easier to use then be sure and send us your feedback. I’ll see you around the noosphere!

Cheers!

Mephiston_wargear

Captain Morgan
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42 Responses to “Updates to the ITC FAQ and 2017 Season Missions Are Live!”

  1. GRUNT March 10, 2017 3:40 pm #

    So what packet will major frontline events loke BAO and LVO be using?

    • CanHammer
      CanHammerLogan March 10, 2017 3:57 pm #

      Agreed, this will basically dictate what everyone else will be using for smaller events <_<…

    • Reecius
      Reecius March 10, 2017 4:29 pm #

      The hope is to NOT have a standard pack but to encourage diversity.

      However, as players run through the missions, they can give us feedback on which they like the best. Off the cuff, I’d say we’d use two from each in a 6 round event.

      • Adam
        Adam March 13, 2017 9:02 am #

        What would be super cool is if each tournament used a different combination of missions so that people actually had to make lists and practice for each event. 🙂

  2. CanHammer
    CanHammerLogan March 10, 2017 3:56 pm #

    Any chance we can hope for a cleaned up version of the mission pack, or at least consistent formatting? The Renegade Open mission pack is… painful, at best.

    • Reecius
      Reecius March 10, 2017 4:28 pm #

      We can see if Chris can clean up their doc a bit, but that is what was sent to us (not to throw anyone under the bus or anything).

      • CanHammer
        CanHammerLogan March 13, 2017 9:29 am #

        Cool. The content is great, just needs a fair bit of editing/streamlining and I think it would see quick adoption.

  3. Drachnyen March 10, 2017 4:47 pm #

    Hey guys, noticed some typos

    1. The ITC missions still have the 11 points mentioned in the intro.

    2. The FAQ still have : “Last Update: 12-28-16”

    • Chris Morgan
      Chris Morgan March 10, 2017 5:03 pm #

      Hey thanks for pointing those out. Where do you see the “last update 12-28-16” at?

      • Drachnyen March 11, 2017 8:22 am #

        Hey Chris,

        Great work by the way 🙂

        Looks like an issue on iPhone, its still linking to the old FAQ. Maybe delete the original file?

        It works on other platforms.

    • Reecius
      Reecius March 10, 2017 5:05 pm #

      Yeah, the ITC missions have been updated, lmk if you spot another typo. Sorry for that.

      Where does the FAQ state the older date? Mine says 3-9-17 in all instances I saw. I searched for that date and came up empty, too.

  4. Chris Morgan
    Chris Morgan March 10, 2017 5:04 pm #

    I’ll be keeping an eye on the stuff here. Post a reply to this comment if you have a question or spot something!

  5. Chris Edstrom March 10, 2017 5:49 pm #

    The Army Comp for allowed/disallowed Forgeworld lists is a little messy, especially in regards to Dark Harvest, which is in a double negative sort of state, whilst the exclusion of Elysians and Armored Battle Group seems odd

    • Chris Morgan
      Chris Morgan March 10, 2017 7:25 pm #

      Thanks for your feedback.

      The Dark Harvest is tricky, because some of the stuff is permitted but some of it isn’t. The double-negative is a side-effect of the distinction required between the units and the army list.

      I agree the Elysians and ABG section is a bit messy. I will work on cleaning that up for the next update.

      • Aaron Beaton March 14, 2017 2:01 pm #

        So IA3 is out but IA4 is okay?

        D-99 is still viable then. Seems a bit odd.

  6. sheit27 March 10, 2017 7:25 pm #

    “The Best Coast Pairings app should be updating tonight with all of the new info. Please be sure to update your app when it does so to be sure you have the latest version of it.”

    Will they be fixing score submissions for those events that players are waiting on?

  7. GeekmasterK March 10, 2017 7:52 pm #

    I noticed that the list-building rules for the Renegade Open are different than the ITC. In particular, they do not allow duplicate formations. If a TO decided to run a tournament using some of the Renegade Open scenarios and some of the standard ITC scenarios, how do list-building guidelines apply? I assume it’s whatever the TO decides, as usual? Do you think that would throw off some of the missions? I haven’t had a chance to read all the Nova and Renegade missions in detail yet, but it’s something I’m wondering about.

    • Chris Morgan
      Chris Morgan March 11, 2017 2:52 pm #

      This would definitely be a TO discretion sort of thing. Every change throws off the missions in some way or another, but I doubt it would be super drastic.

  8. Duz March 10, 2017 8:42 pm #

    New layout looks great! Thanks

    Don’t suppose you could tidy up and reorder the GW one?
    That thing is a pain to navigate! Friendly games we just roll for it then spend the time trying to search for the answer!

    • Chris Morgan
      Chris Morgan March 11, 2017 2:50 pm #

      Thanks! I’ll consider that a referral 😉

  9. Samuel sanchez March 11, 2017 1:15 am #

    I didn’t see the section on it But are canticles of archmagos considered part of canticles of the omnissiah and only 1 is chosen per turn or are players using Cawl alllowed to double dip and use both per turn.

    • ChrisG
      Ahkris March 11, 2017 4:18 am #

      Waiting for an answer on this as well

    • Chris Morgan
      Chris Morgan March 11, 2017 2:51 pm #

      Send the rules questions to the FLG rules email so that all the judges can take a peek at it and it’ll get addressed better. This would probably go in the interim rulings section.

      • ChrisG
        Ahkris March 14, 2017 4:30 am #

        I submitted it on the rules questionnaire a few weeks back but have not heard anything back yet.

        What is the FLG rules mail? Ill send it there as well then 🙂

  10. W March 11, 2017 1:28 am #

    Really neat to see the NOVA missions included, it’s what’s played the most in my area, so I hope this will encourage my local T.Os to join the ITC

  11. Kevin March 11, 2017 9:59 pm #

    Boo! I fear change! I like the nice straightforward ITC missions… Do we really need things so complicated mixing these 3 formats?

  12. Gman March 12, 2017 12:28 am #

    Im a bit disappointed at this tbh. I think that whats making the ITC system good and desireable to use is the consistensy it brings. The more consistent the competetive 40k-meta is the better. I dont think its desireable to have different set of missions on different tournaments since the meta relies so heavily on the missions played. You might argue that diversity is good but tell me one serious sport where the rules for scoring change so dramaticly from event to event?

    • Sanchezsam2 March 12, 2017 12:51 am #

      The itc community voted to use more missions for more variety. Specifically I believe tournaments will use a mix of standard itc and nova missions.

      • Gman March 12, 2017 3:17 am #

        I think people voted to get the missions remade with a touch of nova style to them. Not getting 3 different mission systems.

        Its sad to see such a big factor as the missions getting completely scrambled like this without a proper vote on how the community wants to play it.

        • W March 12, 2017 5:08 am #

          You know that the T.O can CHOOSE which missions to use for their event, right? Tournaments already differed in missions, which is a great thing imo, but now they’re in line with regards to how points are scored (contrary to what you seem to imply?)

          • Gman March 12, 2017 7:11 am
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            Well obviously you have to choose since there is 3 different systems available. You are missing my point tho, reread my first post.

    • Turok117 March 12, 2017 1:28 pm #

      To be honest, I have to agree. When I voted I thought it would be more of a rework of the ITC missions rather than just a making the three formats work with each other. That said I think we can wait to see how it shakes out. It would be nice for a podcast or video going over the formats (I heard there might be something like that coming). There are small areas of the Nova and Renegade missions that I don’t fully understand having never played them. For instance, do we have to provide these “mission coins” for the Renegade missions or is that something the event provides?

      • Puck March 14, 2017 2:43 pm #

        Turok117 – That should be provided by the event, and usually, you get to keep as well. The Renegade provides new ones every year, while the Midwest Conquest utilizes cards instead.

        The tokens are representation of which mission you are using for that game at that time. In a tournament, once you use a token, its not available again, so use tactically!

        Feel free to email us at info@renegadeopen.com with any questions on our format, or about the event(s).

        ~ Paul J Huck
        Co-To of the Renegade Open

    • WillieGoat March 14, 2017 4:33 pm #

      American and National League differ on weather or not a designator hitter is in play or not. It forces managers to work around the system. A NL pitcher needs to be able to hit as well as pitch. I like the new options and diversity.

  13. Darkraptor42 March 12, 2017 9:12 am #

    If an ITC ruling is clarified in the the GW faq should it have been updated in the ITC faq?

  14. loopy March 14, 2017 6:51 am #

    I really do not like all of the additive bonuses (including negatives) not being applied simultaneously. That just doesn’t make sense.

  15. mortetvie March 14, 2017 11:33 am #

    Regarding the Wave Serpent and downgrading D penetrating hits, there is a reference to the old way ITC ruled on D weapons.

    “When a Wave Serpent’s Serpent Shield downgrades the penetrating hit from a Destroyer weapon attack to a glancing hit, the Wave Serpent still suffers the increased loss of hull points (i.e., either D3 or D6+6 hull points or D2, 2 Hull Points for ITC format events)”

    Specifically, the last part “or D2, 2 Hull Points for ITC format events” is no longer applicable.

  16. Chandler March 15, 2017 9:43 am #

    I love the idea of having multiple mission formats to choose from in ITC events, however I’m not so certain these formats work in the sense of mixing in an event. For example, playing a Renegade Open mission in round 1 then an ITC in round 2 followed by a NOVA in round 3.

    I’m not even sure if the intent was to make it so the missions could be mixed in a single event, or if the intent was to simply choose one of the mission packs to use for the entire event (which would seem more reasonable).

    Either way I’m happy to see new missions all following basically a similar scoring system in terms of battle points, but I think when the vote was put out, that people might have been under the impression that the ITC missions themselves might be re-worked to incorporate some elements from other formats but still maintain some consistency.

    • abusepuppy March 15, 2017 1:28 pm #

      That was certainly what most of the folks I had talked to were expecting.

  17. dakkasisterxoxo March 15, 2017 5:11 pm #

    Very confused by one of the Castellan’s of the Imperium interim rulings in the FAQ:

    “Does the Castellans of the Imperium allow the use of forgeworld models? Vendettas, etc.
    No. You can only use the specific models listed in GSI: Fall of Cadia.”

    This is confusing because Vendetta Squadron is specifically listed in Fall of Cadia.

    • abusepuppy March 15, 2017 10:53 pm #

      Pretty sure they meant Vulture, not Vendetta.

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