Signals from the Frontline #478: Formations for Sisters and Custodes!

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Date: 10-28-16

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    • Follow up discussion on the stat of Custodes and Sisters of Silence in the ITC.

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  • Some cool rereleased minis from PuppetsWar: Orc Thung Gangs

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  • Forgeworld has a slew of cool new releases this week!

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  • Infinity releases for October reviewed!

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  • New miniature released for Bushido: Jirou

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Upcoming ITC Events

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ITC Championship Rankings

Rank First Name Last Name Club Events Points
1 Matt Root FNGC 12 748.73
2 Brandon Grant PE 9 645.07
3 Joshua Death N/A 15 644.06
4 Aaron Aleong nWo 5 630.25
5 Thomas Hegstrom Oakey 2DR’s 12 623.28
6 Brett Perkins FMs 7 621.48
7 Dan Platt CanHam 8 615.76
8 Trent Northington Warhogs 8 612.64
9 Andrew Gonyo BCoast 10 607.84
10 James Carmona TZC 9 599.5

ITC Team Rankings

Rank Club Name Club Code Placings Points
1 Beast Coast BCoast 116 1346.92
2 nWo Blackshirts nWo 84 1306.84
3 Team Zero Comp TZC 85 1294.38

Adepta Sororitas

Rank First Name Last Name Club Events Points
1 Bartosz Czolczynski short 11 396.18
2 Nick Barden short 6 308.29
3 Joshua Shubert HT 7 297.38

Adeptus Astartes

Rank First Name Last Name Club Events Points
1 Thomas Hegstrom Oakey 2DR’s 11 509.4
2 Justin Pizzoferrato Merc40k 5 459.14
3 Adam Napier TfDU 4 436.21

Astra Militarum

Rank First Name Last Name Club Events Points
1 Wesley Pauley short 5 384.9
2 Carlos Kaiser REKT 6 384.05
3 Sean Porter short 4 325.24

Blood Angels

Rank First Name Last Name Club Events Points
1 Danny Kwan REKT 8 324
2 Chris Morgan short 6 304.26
3 Iain McLeod GWNG 4 273.22

Chaos Daemons

Rank First Name Last Name Club Events Points
1 Trent Northington Warhogs 8 500.15
2 Eric Hoerger BCoast 4 475.89
3 Vincent Arroyo Sex 6 462.32

Chaos Renegades

Rank First Name Last Name Club Events Points
1 Brett Perkins FMs 6 507.95
2 Lukash Nahachewsky nWo 5 435.94
3 Matt Root FNGC 4 377.16

Chaos Space Marines

Rank First Name Last Name Club Events Points
1 Alan Dehesa RQTF 8 378.9
2 Chuck Arnett Mugu 6 367.72
3 Vincent Arroyo Sex 3 285.59

Cult Mechanicus

Rank First Name Last Name Club Events Points
1 Matt Root FNGC 6 620.2
2 Geoff Robinson TZC 8 470.35
3 Aaron Towler Chicago2 6 395.24

Dark Angels

Rank First Name Last Name Club Events Points
1 Brandon Grant PE 8 542.48
2 Aaron Aleong nWo 5 534.87
3 Rafał Kroczka 3citys 7 418.64

Dark Eldar

Rank First Name Last Name Club Events Points
1 JT Mcdowell IPs 5 342.27
2 Willow Ryder LCC 5 331.66
3 Jeff Biery CofC 3 301.01

Deathwatch

Rank First Name Last Name Club Events Points
1 Matthew Stephens Deff 2 197.29
2 David Johansen 2DR’s 1 111.44
3 Rob Martin III N/A 1 103.44

Eldar

Rank First Name Last Name Club Events Points
1 Brad Chester N/A 4 481.71
2 Matthew Schuchman BCoast 9 477.93
3 Tony Grippando Chicago2 5 465.73

Eldar Corsairs

Rank First Name Last Name Club Events Points
1 Carter Leach N/A 8 420.43
2 Jeff Biery CofC 3 327.17
3 Herb Shaffer Herbs 4 311.48

Genestealer Cult Rankings

Rank First Name Last Name Club Events Points
1 Jon Camacho Sex 2 189.22
2 Lee Hartsoe short 2 113.25
3 Jessup Coffin N/A 1 107.87

Grey Knights Rankings

Rank First Name Last Name Club Events Points
1 Dan Comeau Warhogs 7 348.6
2 Doc Dragon N/A 9 302.1
3 Chris Aynesworth WSOS 3 260.03

Harlequins

Rank First Name Last Name Club Events Points
1 Robert Dayton MH 4 194.91
2 Joshua Death N/A 2 179.34
3 Cameron Pineiro N/A 2 154.49

Imperial Knights

Rank First Name Last Name Club Events Points
1 Adrian James HerbAs 7 420.42
2 Ben Vaughan MK 5 392.44
3 Joshua Death N/A 6 391.1

Inquisition

Rank First Name Last Name Club Events Points
1 Wesley Pauley short 4 351.34
2 Randolph Soanes-ulrich GWNG 7 283.06
3 Adam Devitt PhGames 4 262.52

Knights Renegades Rankings

Rank First Name Last Name Club Events Points
1 John Eubanks short 4 407.56
2 Alex Gonzalez LCC 5 379.51
3 Aaron Hayden PE 3 268.38

Khorne Daemonnkin

Rank First Name Last Name Club Events Points
1 Horton Doughton Border 5 405.12
2 Mark Perry SMG 7 371.7
3 Chase Garber Warhogs 6 361.55

Militarum Tempestus

Rank First Name Last Name Club Events Points
1 Mycroft Holmes N/A 3 271.3
2 David Koszka B&W 3 241.62
3 Bill Durrett LowTier 3 149.82

Necrons Rankings

Rank First Name Last Name Club Events Points
1 Alexander Fennell DSD 7 452.29
2 Alex Gonzalez LCC 8 436.38
3 Baxter Seguin Mugu 10 403.92

Officio Assassinorum Rankings

Rank First Name Last Name Club Events Points
1 Josh Bagwell Mugu 4 269.63
2 Mike “Juice Springsten” Vagenos short 3 260.19
3 Justin Mananna Cox BCoast 4 228.09

Orks Rankings

Rank First Name Last Name Club Events Points
1 Rich Kilton 2DR’s 8 415.76
2 Troy Graber FMs 10 402.39
3 Oseas Aduna Deff 6 371.09

Skitarii

Rank First Name Last Name Club Events Points
1 Quinn Shepas short 6 381.81
2 Matt Evans Flipside 2 129.41
3 Phil Harlos GWNG 1 118.07

Space Wolves Rankings

Rank First Name Last Name Club Events Points
1 Mike Kriegler nWo 7 480.2
2 Trevor Sandoval RQTF 6 454.84
3 Logan Shelton short 8 420.19

Tau Rankings

Rank First Name Last Name Club Events Points
1 Andrew Gonyo BCoast 9 495.7
2 Paul McKelvey LCC 13 463.25
3 Jeremy Veysseire TZC 6 447.82

Tyranids Rankings

Rank First Name Last Name Club Events Points
1 Tyler Larson Mugu 10 404.61
2 Jaminh Vo MH 6 306.6
3 Matt Evans Flipside 4 302.39

Rumors: The Rumor Section is gathered from the web and is not in any way information we receive from  any manufacturer nor is it necessarily accurate. This section of the podcast is intended for entertainment purposes only.

  • Rumors cloating around that the remianing “Daemonkin” books will be coming out for the remaining gods. The rumors contradict one another a bit though with some indicating that there may only be one single book for all three. We will have to wait and see what comes our way.
  • More rumors of a bloodbowl reboot on the way!

Rant Session

  • (Once again) debunking the notion that all players of a given faction vote to screw over every other faction.

Tactics Corner

Rules Lawyer

Completed Commissions

List Review
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14 Responses to “Signals from the Frontline #478: Formations for Sisters and Custodes!”

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    AngryPanda October 28, 2016 10:00 am #

    Thankfully we all didn’t have a ridiculous discussion on wether to allow Sister and Custodes or not, as if it was ever in question that they will want those be used (and more importantly sold).

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      Sanchezsam2 October 28, 2016 10:21 am #

      This is much better then hamfisting in snowflake rules to force unbound units in tournaments.

      The formations are nice but don’t make the units really that much better and most of all the formstions are actually a choice since players are still limited to 3 detachments in ITC.

      If I had to choose I’d say the custodes formation is better since 2+/5++ t6, multi wound, eternal warrior with guardian spear block ability is a pretty decent defensive unit.

      • Reecius
        Reecius October 28, 2016 11:01 am #

        Yeah, I am very happy with this.

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        abusepuppy October 28, 2016 10:23 pm #

        Eh. 6++, or 5++ occasionally is pretty weak. Reducing the enemy’s warp charge, on the other hand, is an effect you can’t get anywhere else in the game and can actually but a big crimp on the other player’s plans when they are already stretched thin.

        I agree it’s a much better way of handling it, though. I eagerly await all of the people who were raging about how SoS/Custodes would make “broken deathstars” to try and show us that now, though.

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    Peteypab October 28, 2016 11:14 am #

    I mean, to be fair on their facebook page they said that they were obliging the community. So maybe the discussion was still beneficial. They clearly weren’t planning on posting those formations.

    Go team 40k community.

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    Narfwak October 28, 2016 12:37 pm #

    That Vultarax is going to be a meta-busting motherfucker in some 30k circles with all that Haywire shooting. Say goodbye to your Spartans, Sicarans and Assault Claws…

    Flare Shield on an FMC that doesn’t have armor facing, though? That… doesn’t work. FW, go home, you are drunk.

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    AngryPanda October 28, 2016 4:29 pm #

    Isn’t the truly important thing that we finally got more Hobbit releases that I’m sure everyone was waiting for?

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      WestRider October 28, 2016 9:28 pm #

      Well, the warboar or whatever it is that one dude is riding looks really happy about it 🙂

    • Reecius
      Reecius October 28, 2016 10:48 pm #

      Mic drop! haha

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    Duz_ October 29, 2016 6:29 am #

    Kudos on the paternity leave guys! If only more businesses in this country were like that!

    • Reecius
      Reecius October 29, 2016 10:19 am #

      Thanks! And it’s tough for the company in the short term but we think it is better in the long term and just overall the right thing to do. We appreciate you mentioning it!

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    Drachnyen October 30, 2016 9:53 am #

    Hey Reece,

    Very happy and surprised about GW quick turn around. Pretty cool. Now if we can get those final FAQs.

    IMHO, these new units will change the meta a bit but I dont think this will help massively to reduce deathstars. Heck, I’m seeing more deathstars with the custodes …

    I would like to see in the next ITC voting a proposed change from battle brothers to allies of convenience. That would change the meta drastically and instantly remove deathstars and all of the rules exploit that are currently possible. It would also simplify list building, reduce the number of possible errors / cheating while increasing overall game play. (With no deathstars, you will need to think and plan ahead)

    Thanks in advance

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      Adam Wright October 30, 2016 10:44 pm #

      Glad to see the idea of tossing out the battle brothers rule is catching on. The rules interactions it creates are the breeding grounds of all the overpowered deathstars in the tourney meta. Plus, My love for the Warhammer fluff dies a little on the inside when I see unit combos like Dark Angels with Space Wolves, or Blood Angels being used as nothing more than a drop pod taxi service.

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    Brutishcard October 31, 2016 3:36 am #

    Nice work on the paternity leave. That is not easy for a business like yourselves. Also apparently that’s particularly true in America! Also I don’t think we wasted our time having the debate on custodes / sisters. If anything it’s educating them about how we perceive their decisions and allows them to respond.

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