Signals from the Frontline #476

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Intro

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News

  • The new Horus Heresy box set, Burning of Prospero is going to be a huge hit. We anticipate that our stock will be sold extremely quickly so do no twait to get your order in. We will restock as soon as possible, but this hot item will be first come, first served.

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  • It will be interesting to see the rules for these models in 40k. The rumors indicate that they will be suitably beefy, but the Sisters of Silence in particular look like they will be all-stars if they really are psychic nulls and behaive in a similar fashion to the Culexus assassin. We’re hearing that the 40k rules will be available as a download on the GW website.
  • Total War: Warhammer will feature the White Dwarf himself as DLC for the game. Beyond being a powerful unit, he will unlock quests, too.

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  • Warlord games turned 9 years old and are having a 50% off sale on Judge Dredd models. Now’s a great time to pick up your Ape Gang models….

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  • Some great new movie trailers came out for nerddom this week! Logan and Guardians of the Galaxy 2. Both look great!
  • A new expansion for House on Haunted Hill coming out!

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  • New models coming out for Dark Age: the Dragyri!

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Upcoming ITC Events

  • Some ITC updates: We are not counting Kill Teams for the ITC, it is a different game. We will have a minimum points limit for ITC events, most likely between 1,000 and 1,500pts.
  • We will only recognize factions on the GW site and major Forge World factions.
  • We are looking at gearing up a 30k ITC rankings system as folks are asking for it.

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For the full rankings, click here!

ITC Championship Rankings

Rank First Name Last Name Club Events Points
1 Matt Root FNGC 12 748.73
2 Brandon Grant PE 9 645.07
3 Joshua Death N/A 15 644.06
4 Aaron Aleong nWo 5 630.25
5 Thomas Hegstrom Oakey 2DR’s 12 623.28
6 Brett Perkins FMs 7 621.48
7 Dan Platt CanHam 8 615.76
8 Trent Northington Warhogs 8 612.64
9 Andrew Gonyo BCoast 9 607.84
10 James Carmona TZC 9 599.5

ITC Team Rankings

Rank Club Name Club Code Placings Points
1 Beast Coast BCoast 114 1346.92
2 nWo Blackshirts nWo 84 1306.84
3 Team Zero Comp TZC 84 1294.38

Adepta Sororitas

Rank First Name Last Name Club Events Points
1 Bartosz Czolczynski short 11 396.18
2 Nick Barden short 6 308.29
3 Joshua Shubert HT 7 297.38

Adeptus Astartes

Rank First Name Last Name Club Events Points
1 Thomas Hegstrom Oakey 2DR’s 11 509.4
2 Justin Pizzoferrato Merc40k 5 459.14
3 Adam Napier TfDU 4 436.21

Astra Militarum

Rank First Name Last Name Club Events Points
1 Wesley Pauley short 5 384.9
2 Carlos Kaiser REKT 6 384.05
3 Sean Porter short 4 325.24

Blood Angels

Rank First Name Last Name Club Events Points
1 Danny Kwan REKT 8 324
2 Chris Morgan short 6 304.26
3 Iain McLeod GWNG 4 273.22

Chaos Daemons

Rank First Name Last Name Club Events Points
1 Trent Northington Warhogs 8 500.15
2 Eric Hoerger BCoast 4 475.89
3 Vincent Arroyo Sex 6 462.32

Chaos Renegades

Rank First Name Last Name Club Events Points
1 Brett Perkins FMs 6 507.95
2 Lukash Nahachewsky nWo 5 435.94
3 Matt Root FNGC 4 377.16

Chaos Space Marines

Rank First Name Last Name Club Events Points
1 Alan Dehesa RQTF 7 378.9
2 Chuck Arnett Mugu 6 367.72
3 Todd Silber DSD 3 283.46

Cult Mechanicus

Rank First Name Last Name Club Events Points
1 Matt Root FNGC 6 620.2
2 Geoff Robinson TZC 8 470.35
3 Aaron Towler Chicago2 6 395.24

Dark Angels

Rank First Name Last Name Club Events Points
1 Brandon Grant PE 8 542.48
2 Aaron Aleong nWo 5 534.87
3 Rafał Kroczka 3citys 7 418.64

Dark Eldar

Rank First Name Last Name Club Events Points
1 JT Mcdowell IPs 5 342.27
2 Willow Ryder LCC 5 331.66
3 Jeff Biery CofC 3 301.01

Deathwatch

Rank First Name Last Name Club Events Points
1 Matthew Stephens Deff 2 197.29
2 David Johansen 2DR’s 1 111.44
3 Rob Martin III N/A 1 103.44

Eldar

Rank First Name Last Name Club Events Points
1 Brad Chester N/A 4 481.71
2 Matthew Schuchman BCoast 9 477.93
3 Tony Grippando Chicago2 5 465.73

Eldar Corsairs

Rank First Name Last Name Club Events Points
1 Carter Leach N/A 8 420.43
2 Jeff Biery CofC 3 327.17
3 Herb Shaffer Herbs 4 311.48

Genestealer Cult Rankings

Rank First Name Last Name Club Events Points
1 Lee Hartsoe short 2 113.25
2 Jessup Coffin N/A 1 107.87
3 Jon Camacho Sex 1 97.84

Grey Knights Rankings

Rank First Name Last Name Club Events Points
1 Dan Comeau Warhogs 6 318.07
2 Doc Dragon WOLF 9 302.1
3 Chris Aynesworth WSOS 3 260.03

Harlequins

Rank First Name Last Name Club Events Points
1 Robert Dayton MH 4 194.91
2 Joshua Death N/A 2 179.34
3 Cameron Pineiro N/A 2 154.49

Imperial Knights

Rank First Name Last Name Club Events Points
1 Adrian James HerbAs 7 420.42
2 Ben Vaughan MK 5 392.44
3 Joshua Death N/A 6 391.1

Inquisition

Rank First Name Last Name Club Events Points
1 Wesley Pauley short 4 351.34
2 Randolph Soanes-ulrich GWNG 7 283.06
3 Adam Devitt PhGames 4 262.52

Knights Renegades Rankings

Rank First Name Last Name Club Events Points
1 John Eubanks short 4 407.56
2 Alex Gonzalez LCC 4 312.2
3 Aaron Hayden PE 3 268.38

Khorne Daemonnkin

Rank First Name Last Name Club Events Points
1 Horton Doughton Border 5 405.12
2 Mark Perry SMG 7 371.7
3 Chase Garber Warhogs 6 361.55

Militarum Tempestus

Rank First Name Last Name Club Events Points
1 Mycroft Holmes N/A 3 271.3
2 David Koszka B&W 3 241.62
3 Josef McCoy Deff 2 116.52

Necrons Rankings

Rank First Name Last Name Club Events Points
1 Alexander Fennell DSD 7 452.29
2 Alex Gonzalez LCC 8 436.38
3 Baxter Seguin Mugu 9 403.92

Officio Assassinorum Rankings

Rank First Name Last Name Club Events Points
1 Josh Bagwell Mugu 4 269.63
2 Justin Mananna Cox BCoast 4 228.09
3 Mike”Juice Springsten” Vagenos PowTH 2 149.1

Orks Rankings

Rank First Name Last Name Club Events Points
1 Rich Kilton 2DR’s 8 415.76
2 Troy Graber FMs 10 402.39
3 Oseas Aduna Deff 6 371.09

Skitarii

Rank First Name Last Name Club Events Points
1 Quinn Shepas short 6 381.81
2 Matt Evans Flipside 2 129.41
3 Phil Harlos GWNG 1 118.07

Space Wolves Rankings

Rank First Name Last Name Club Events Points
1 Mike Kriegler nWo 7 480.2
2 Trevor Sandoval RQTF 6 454.84
3 Logan Shelton short 8 420.19

Tau Rankings

Rank First Name Last Name Club Events Points
1 Andrew Gonyo BCoast 8 495.7
2 Paul McKelvey LCC 12 458.4
3 Jeremy Veysseire TZC 6 447.82

Tyranids Rankings

Rank First Name Last Name Club Events Points
1 Tyler Larson Mugu 9 354.28
2 Jaminh Vo MH 6 306.6
3 Matt Evans Flipside 4 302.39

Rumors: The Rumor Section is gathered from the web and is not in any way information we receive from  any manufacturer nor is it necessarily accurate. This section of the podcast is intended for entertainment purposes only.

Rant Session

Tactics Corner

Rules Lawyer

Completed Commissions

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  • Here are some WIP pictures of Pablo’s AoS army:

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11 Responses to “Signals from the Frontline #476”

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    Fxeni October 21, 2016 12:11 pm #

    In regards to the GW FAQ, do you guys plan on adding whole ham or parts of it?

    For example, will you be voting on the dedicated transport/battle brothers change, or is that set in stone ?

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    David October 21, 2016 2:32 pm #

    How about requiring a minimum number of units in a codex to qualify for the ITC. Pick the codex with the fewest units entries you already count to establish the minimum required.

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    pascalnz October 21, 2016 5:36 pm #

    laughing so hard at the building work almost messed up my painting 🙂

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      abusepuppy October 21, 2016 6:05 pm #

      So they’re Elites choices, and one of the Armies of the Imperium… but which one? Can you just slot them into any Imperial army, or do they have a special detachment like Assassins? Weird.

      15pts/model for the Sisters is a complete steal, though. A mix of Flamers and Greatblades makes them a force to be reckoned with.

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        pascalnz October 22, 2016 12:18 pm #

        Or you could give them bolters…. bwhahahah!:P

        on a slightly weirder note though.
        the custodes don’t have relentless so can’t fire bolters and assault their best strength is 6 as well, so just throw an av13 walker at them if you can.

        they could be a fairly nasty death star though. all characters, +1 attack to everyone in the unit 2 wounds and eternal warrior each.

        don’t want to put a terminator armoured guy with them though it’d be a shame to lose sweeping advance.

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    Peteypab October 21, 2016 6:06 pm #

    They each have their own faction symbols, and therefore may not be taken in any normal detachments at this time.

    However, you can use them in unbound

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      Reecius October 22, 2016 1:22 pm #

      We can use them in unbound??!?! Weeee!!!

      Seriously, who actually plays unbound? I would estimate maybe 5% of the community actually uses unbound rules on a regular basis.

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        Ytook October 22, 2016 4:35 pm #

        Well, given it’s the only way to play those Sisters of Silence and Custodes I’m guessing a few more people then before come next weekend 😉

        Seriously though I’m hoping for AoS Mathced play style army building and alliances for 40K 8th, so much easier to have these mini factions and small releases.

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    Troy Graber October 22, 2016 8:28 pm #

    re: Kill Team and the ITC.

    Kill Team is a different game than 40K. It is a game with flawed mechanics and Army Comp that is so easily exploitable as to make it non-competitive. It should definitely not be considered for ITC points.

    HOWEVER. A limit on the number of points either small or large on what events are allowed to be ITC events isn’t a good way to go. I’ve participated in more than 25 40K tournaments this year. Only 6 of them used the ITC army comp, missions, and FAQ. I’ve been to events with better and worse army comp and better and worse missions. The ITC FAQ is still the best I’ve seen, but my point is these events are different formats that have different paths to victory. They are not apples to apples.

    My top ITC score comes from an Oldhammer event. Oldhammer is a format that shifts the balance strongly in favor of armies that typically don’t do well in the ITC like Orks, Tyranids, and IG. I’ve been to events where kill points were the primary in every mission (sloberknocker GT). I’ve been to events where progressive missions are king (Midwest Conquest). I’ve been to events that allowed Titans of any sort. I’ve been to events where super heavies were banned. All of these events were eligible for ITC points. All of these events are different and reward different playstyles, armies, and tactics.

    Our next event in Wichita is a Combat Patrol Event. Combat Patrol is 400 points with certain restrictions. Is is the ideal size for an entry level 40K tournament, and all of my experience with Combat Patrol (including 5 tournaments this year) have shown it to be a competitive game that rewards good tactical play, and because the meta is less stale, and events tend to have more rounds the winner is someone who has demonstrated himself a superior 40K player.

    The ITC should definitely embrace smaller point events if they are going to embrace alternative formats. If you want to remove the modifiers for consecutive wins, and number of rounds, then fine, but don’t shut out TO’s that are trying to build their community. And don’t conflate smaller point games with Kill Team.

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      Troy Graber October 22, 2016 8:50 pm #

      For what it is worth, with or without ITC support we will be moving forward with our Escalating format. Our goal is to add scalability to 40K.

      Level 1 is 400 points
      Level 2 is 1,000 points each player (2 vs 2 teams)
      Level 3 is 1,500 points
      Level 4 is 2,000 points
      Level 5 is 2,500 points

      Each level contains appropriate restrictions and army comp to facilitate fun, interesting, and tactical games. Each level has a clear way to step up to the next level.

      Full details can be found here:
      https://docs.google.com/document/d/1e-aQqVAb_JitTuZtO4KlsmbgCw5rkdXotBZF-PXHL-I/edit?usp=sharing

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