Signals from the Frontline #468: Angel’s Blade!

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10 Responses to “Signals from the Frontline #468: Angel’s Blade!”

  1. pascalnz September 19, 2016 2:28 pm

    death company are coherent enough to order around, theres a great story with raphens squad in leviathan where he just thinks he’s in the heresy.

    If they were entirely insane they couldn’t form anything coherent on the battle field. they get worse and worse, which is why they check at the start of the battle to see who is starting to succumb. they really want to die before the badness starts.

  2. pascalnz September 19, 2016 3:04 pm

    you missed the awesome!! part of the lucius task force.
    you get fast land raiders and baal or regular predators…. but they also gain scout!
    if you take them with the lost brotherhood strike force they all get to go an extra 6 inches after deploying.

    turn one, you can get 30 inches up the board and making the land raider redeemer actually worth taking, str6 ap3 templates all over the opponent turn one..

  3. Nightman September 19, 2016 4:46 pm

    I don’t want to sound negative towards GW, but i am going too.

    Couple of corrections: BA has had +1 init on charge since the codex came out from several formations, including the Baal Strike Force (similar to CAD). Dreads need to be locked in combat previous turn to get the extra attack phase. For shooty dreads it might have some potential.

    The orbital strike force does not roll for rerserves on turn 1 (the one that can charge out of DS), only the archangel demi company which has been taxed more than wesley snipes (they can’t charge, only orbital can) You can bring on a ton of stuff turn one, but sternguard without doctrines or vanguard without special rules? It kinda sounds marginal, but there might be something there.

    So basically a lot of the fun msu formations are much worse than taking a CAD. Assault Squads lost free transports, but GW has said we can use either book (like you can choose what iron priest to take)

    Some posetive stuff:

    The baal pred/land raider/misc tanks formation looks like a ton of fun, though probably not suited for competitive play.

    Golden host:
    This has some potential in competitive play. SG will get murdered by anything ap2, but you can pick your fights which makes this a very interesting formation.

    Orbital Intervention Force:
    This gives BA an answer to dealing with Superheavies/Gargantuan and several other problem units without having to ally in cents. It’s a little pricy, but solid overall.

    Death Company formations look fun but they still have the same flaws for competitive play. Great for casual play.

    Not sure if GW is changing direction again preparing for 8th? They often seem to be on the right track, but then stuff like this happens. Both Angel’s Blade and Traitors Hate are way off par compared to other recent releases except the poor Orks. Overall there is alot of diversity in the meta now which is great, but i’d love to see a strong CSM gladius, the return of BA Las/Plas Razor msu/JP Troops or Ork/Nid hordes that actually are intimidating.

    • CRONHOUR September 20, 2016 2:08 pm

      out of interest where did gw say we can use either book? doesn’t the dev and assault squads replace the codex entry? can we use grav devs with old assault squads? is it possible to have old and new assault squad in the same army?

  4. Techno wizard September 19, 2016 7:17 pm

    The chaos codex is before the power tone down, it’s the first codex of 6th then Elda’s and tau power houses came out, then the switch to 7th etc

  5. Michael Corr
    Michael Corr September 20, 2016 5:05 am

    Cheers for the shout out guys! Glad you are enjoying the articles.

  6. tag8833 September 20, 2016 8:35 am

    Duplicate bonuses for your core? No Obsec for a Troop oriented core formation? Must be a Typo! Ask Orks about that sometime.

    Do they also have a leadership penalty as part of all their formations?

  7. Mike September 20, 2016 1:14 pm

    I’m not impressed with the Angel book. Yeah, it’s better than nothing, but it feels like they just don’t have any writers who give a damn about the BA army.

    -the number of formations is tiny, making variety an issue.
    -the formations are large individually, making it silly hard to get a full synergistic strike force on the table at typical tourney point levels. Most of the neat full strike force combos pretty much require apocalypse points.
    -No all-important psyker formation. These are arguably the most relevant formation type in recent times, and this book whiffs on that.
    -The vanguard weapon costs still haven’t been fixed
    -Terminators point values still haven’t been fixed
    -Despite throwing in a captain data sheet, cataphractii captains for BA still aren’t a thing.
    -cataphractii termies still aren’t there.
    -the formations that allow charging from deep strike self-nerf with the disordered charge when there are plenty of other formations that allow normal charging from deep strike. Again, thanks to the inconsistent rules writers that apparently like screwing over armies by taking sudden dips in standard power level.
    -Still no way to charge out of rhino-type tanks.
    -the relics kinda suck
    -the DC chap is loaded out poorly. Mandatory jump pack is alright, but I’d like the option to have him on foot, but inferno pistol on a random bs4 2 wound guy is kinda wasteful.
    -the relics suck even more when you realize that ONLY the DC chap can take ANY of them. Pretty obviously a writing error, since one of the relics (the crozius) specifies it’s for him only, but the rules for the relics in general only allow them to be taken from the lost brotherhood or DC formations, neither of which allow any unnamed characters except for the DC chaplain.
    -of course, the already-covered issue of the Demi-company giving crappy bonuses that are also redundant with the strike force.

    So another sub-par entry in an ever-growing history of sub-par entries for the BA. Really wish they’d get a rules writer that actually plays the army.

    • AngryPanda September 21, 2016 11:30 pm

      Concerning the conclave I think we should be fair and admit that taking one from White Scars and spread Hit&Run among some BA units is the better option than an inbuilt one anyway.

  8. Emil Espegren September 21, 2016 2:05 pm

    What he said