Centstar Variety Hour

t3nw (1)Oh Centstar, how I love thee, let me count the ways.

I love thee freely, as the imperium of man is Right.

I love thee purely, thy psykers I do Praise.

I love thee with a grav cannon put to use.

I love thee with a love that comes and goes as I lose.

Smiles, tears, of all my life! Except for mishap ones.

I shall love thee most when my opponent meets death.

All mini sonnetry aside, I still have love for my Centstar. It is a powerful concept that is high risk, high reward. Some people give out guff for playing a deathstar list (nudge nudge reece reece), but in the land of Wraithknights, LOW units, Battle Companies, Green Tides, Daemon summoning, and the like, those comments slide off like fried eggs on a Teflon pan. That is they stick and burn until my house is on fire and I’m calling 911.

Lately though, I’ve tried some different variations of my Centstar list. I have a hard time playing the same thing over and over and I’ve wondered how I can still play my Centstar list (going for best Grey Knights) but tweak it so that it is different enough to be fresh. Right now I’m just playing with some things to see what I like and don’t like. It brings some spice and gives me something to think about week after week. Lets take a look at some of these variations and what they can offer.

The Core

First off lets take a look at my Centstar and what I go for when creating it. My Centstar consists of Draigo, a GK Librarian 3+ Centurions with Grav Cannons and an Omniscope, then Sevrin Loth. Others use Tigurius, but man, Tigurius has failed me so often it makes me cringe. I think I’ve succeeded in getting the power I’m going for like 30% of the time. It bums me out. I like that I can plan around Invisibility, Prescience, and Gate.

Original LVO Top 7 List

Space Marines

Loth

5 Scouts

5 Scouts

4 Centurions

Grey Knights

Librarian

5 Strikes – Incinerator

5 Strikes – Incinerator

3 Dreadknights

Draigo

grey.knights.01Thoughts: This list excelled at the old ITC missions. It did well at getting First Blood, Slay the Warlord and Linebreaker, as well as being hard for me to give up first blood and slay the warlord as well. It also did well overall with Maelsrom and the book objective missions. That changed when the tertiaries went to more board scoring missions like Ground Control and Table Quarters. Not to mention Big Game Hunter is easy to pick off of this list.

 

Current Centstar List

Red Scorpions CAD

Loth

5 Scouts

5 Scouts

3 Centurions

3 Centurions

GK Nemesis

Librarian Hammer/ML3

5 Strike Squad

Dreadknight Teleporter/Hammer/Incinerator/Psycannon

Draigo

Flesh Tearers

Sanguinary Priets Auspex

Sanguinary Priets Auspex Shield of Cretacia

5 Tacs – Heavy Flamer – Drop Pod- Locator Beacon

2 DropPods – Locator Beacon

captainacentstarbao Thoughts: Overall this has been pretty solid. I was at table two at TSHFT and ended up losing a great close game to Mason from Hobby Hawk studios and his Deathstar Void Shield orks. The Void Shield was super annoying and I guess I could have gone after it with the Dreadknight but didn’t feel I could take it one volley.

I like this variation as the Sanguinary Priests add extra durability with FNP and give each Centurion squad a poor man’s Perfect Timing with the Auspex. Lowering a units cover save is a huge feature that can really come into play being the difference from a dead squad or unit or one that is still kicking and scoring.

One thing I’ve thought about is adding Missile Launchers to the Centurions. This would give some more Void and Vehicle busting power, but still have some troop killing ability with the frag option of the missiles. Something I want to try out soon for sure.

Centstar Battle Co

GK Nemesis

Librarian – Hammer/ML3

5 Strikes

Draigo

Battle Company

Captain

Chaplain

4 X 5 Man Tacs – Razorback with Lascannon and TL Plasma

2 X 5 Man Tacs – Drop Pods – 1 with a  Locator Beacon 1 Tac with a Meltagun

5 Devastators – 2 Grav Cannon – Rhino

3 Centurions – Grav Cannon/Omniscope

2 Attack Bikes – Multi Melta

3 X 5 Scouts

Thoughts: I found this idea on the Fronline Forums and thought it sounded interesting. While this Centsar lacks the durability and protection of guaranteed Invisibility and FNP, it was a ton of fun to play with. Lots of mobility and bodies gives me a lot of scoring potential. The Captain ends up being Draigo’s wound caddy saving the Chaplain for hand to hand buffs, but the rest of the army still has a point in scoring and adding some firepower with the Razorbacks.

I played a game against a scary Eldar list with the Crimson Death Formation, the Aspect Host formation with 2×10 Warp Spiders and 10 Dark Reapers in a Wave Serpent along with 2×3 Scatbikes, a Farseer and a Wraithknight. It was funny as his list was an elite hard to kill (as a whole) list and mine had scoring bodies out the yin yang – something I am used being on the reverse side of. We played ITC mission 4 – Scouring, I pulled it out with the Primary, Slay the Warlord and Big Game Hunter. The end game had me with multiple objective secured units on every objective except one. I was exhausted moving so many things around the table! I really enjoyed it though and want to test it out a bit more. For Chapter Tactics I went Salamanders as I thought it would be the best all around tactic that could save me from a Heldrake or other ap3 flamers.

Centstar with Big Guy and Little Guy

GK Nemesis

Librarian – Hammer/ML3

5 Strike Squad

Draigo

Nemesis Dreadknight – Fists/Teleporter/Incinerator/Psycannon

CAD Red Scorpions

Loth

5 Scouts

5 Scouts

3 Cents – Grav/Omni

Cerastus Knight Acheron (ITC allows for one to be in an army and the 0-1LOW is for Gargantuan/Super Heavy)

Blood Angels – Allied

Sanguinary Pries – Auspex

Tac Squad – Heavy Flamer/Drop Pod/Locator Beacon

I haven’t been able to try this list yet, but I have been itching to do so. I think It will have some nice chops against Battle Co and heavy marine bodies with the Acheron’s S6 AP3 mega flamer. Cents and Little Guy (Dreadknight) pop some transports and the Acheron (Big Guy) lights them up. Then stomps on them. Should be fun. I really like the idea of a big knight complementing the Centstar. I’ve also been looking at the Imperial Knight Warden with all its shooty goodness as it should bust Void Shield and Battle Co’s a good bit. I’d loose the BA portion and FNP, but it could be worth it. I’d like to bust out my Knight again and think this could be fun.

Some Other Centstar Lists

Jy2’s Centstar of Doom

babyhighlanderfightGK NSF:

Draigo

Librarian – Lvl 3, Hammer

5 Strikers

Red Scorpions CAD:

Sevrin Loth

4x 5 Scouts – Land Speeder Storm 5 Scouts – Land Speeder Storm

5 Grav Centurions – Omnispex

Librarius Conclave:

Tigurius Librarian – Lvl 2, Terminator Armor, Storm Shield Librarian – Lvl 1, Terminator Armor, Storm Shield

Thoughts: Tons of psychic power and good scoring potential. Jy2 is the top Grey Knight player with this and it is a testament to how durable it can be.

Warboss Doug’s Double Centstar

GK Nemesis

Librarian – Domina/ML3/Melta

Terminator Squad – Hammer/Psycannon/Meltabombs

Draigo

CAD Space Marines

Tigurius

5 Scouts

5 Scouts

Drop Pod

2 x 3 Centurions – Grav/Omni

Inquisition

Coteaz

Inquisitoral Henchmen (unsure of his loadout seems to be small squads with a couple of psykers and some meltas.)

Void Shield Generator

Thoughts: Great anti alpha strike with the void shield and Coteaz. Lots of psychic power as well.

Conclusion

Well there you have it, enough Centstars to put in a bag whirl it around your head and shout Table War! Anybody that gives you guff gets a bag of Censtars to the face. TO THE FACE! Eat it fatty!

Some people don’t like Deathstars, but this Deathstar isn’t like a lot of others, the Censtar is fickle and the game can change on a dime if you don’t get off key powers, as has happened many times. The psychic phase becomes a minigame all itself as you have to make sure certain powers go off, hope your psykers head doesn’t explode, then cry when the power doesn’t even go off and your super powered unit is floating in the wind with a ton of ap2 bearing down on its face.

In the end play what you want and don’t complain too much as this game is off the charts in terms of power levels and wackiness! Go 40k!

About CaptainA

Aaron is a longtime gamer of many systems. He is an avid community builder of 40k and after running many 40k events in Portland, Oregon, has recently moved to Boise, Idaho and continues to host and run leagues and events. He has also recently expanded his repertoire and entered the second hand Warhammer business. Check out his website at www.trader-a.com to see how he can help you get rid off your old and unused models.

21 Responses to “Centstar Variety Hour”

  1. Kwodd October 17, 2015 10:04 am #

    I miss the old ITC missions.

  2. jy2
    jy2 October 17, 2015 10:32 am #

    Just FYI, your original LVO Top 7 list should only have 2 dreadknights as that is the maximum you can take in a NSF detachment.

    • CaptainA October 17, 2015 11:03 am #

      It was a CAD.

      Fixed it.

  3. jy2
    jy2 October 17, 2015 10:36 am #

    BTW, great writeup!

    • CaptainA October 17, 2015 11:34 am #

      Thanks!

  4. Hotsauceman1 October 17, 2015 11:04 am #

    What if, Rather then Nemesis, you went double Cad on the one with the Knight?
    That way, you can get more Bodies on the field, drop the Allied Blood Angels(What do they bring?)
    Also dude, thanks for the suggestion on second hand Warhammer, I have made like 70$ so far since I started this week lol.

    • CaptainA October 17, 2015 11:06 am #

      Noice!

      BA gives the Censtar Feel No Pain and an Auspex which can be clutch when I don’t get perfect timing.

  5. Petey Pab
    Pablo October 17, 2015 6:21 pm #

    Love me some Cent-Stars! I also, have tried out most of these lists. (Dugg’s being the only exception). I find that stacking your star with broken special abilities as well as durability, is the key. St. Celestine is currently the only way to give a Cent-Star hit and run (White scars ICs dont confer, and Chapter Tactics cancel each other out) So I like running her. She gets back up, synergizes well with Hammerhad, and offers decent anti-troop. She can run around and pick off small scoring units.

    • CaptainA October 17, 2015 7:10 pm #

      I saw you using her in that batrep Pablo! Something to think about. I typically just try to gate out…hope I don’t fail!

    • jy2
      Jy2 October 17, 2015 8:06 pm #

      You can run Ravenwing characters or Cypher for Hit-&-Run as well. I used to run Cypher pre-Libby Conclave.

    • westrider October 18, 2015 10:24 am #

      You could also use Cypher to give it both Hit and Run and Shrouded. He doesn’t require another Detachment, either, since he can be included in any AoI Detachment without taking up a slot.

      • CaptainA October 18, 2015 1:03 pm #

        Just remember you can’t put Cypher into the centstar until after the first turn per the infiltration rules

        • pascalnz October 19, 2015 2:51 am #

          could always chuck dante in the star for hit and run, plus a sang priest and a unit of scouts plus, either a drop pod or another unit of scouts in the baal or flesh tearer detachments

  6. Reecius
    Reecius October 17, 2015 8:48 pm #

    Nice article, captainA

    • CaptainA October 17, 2015 8:51 pm #

      Tanks!

  7. Iddy October 18, 2015 2:27 am #

    Been running a cent-star for a while, my own take is…

    Red Scorpions

    Loth

    Commander- bike + the rest

    3-4 units of bikes with meltas/grav

    3 cents

    Grey knights

    Lib.

    Draigo

    Strike squad.

    The whole mind set of my list is that the star will be wiped out by turn 4 while the rest of my list can comfortably score objectives and maelstrom points. I’ve also found using Tiggy instead of Draigo works for smaller 1000 point games.

    • CaptainA October 19, 2015 7:04 am #

      Bike Centstar! How could I forget!

  8. Arrethas October 19, 2015 5:16 am #

    Why don’t you get a bastion? Do you guys play with heavy terrains battlefields?

    • CaptainA October 19, 2015 5:06 pm #

      I’ve used a Bastion before. Not to bad. Could be good with the escape hatch out in front.

  9. fluger October 19, 2015 9:01 am #

    I really like the look of that battle company cent star force.

    • CaptainA October 19, 2015 5:06 pm #

      At the very least it was a lot of fun.

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