Thursday Night Fight! Renegades vs Ultramarines Battle Company

Kain's Chosen

Thursday night fight! We’ve got Renegades vs. Space Marines in a classic battle, also a send of to Kian, our intern. Click here to watch the game live on Twitch, 7:00pm PST!

The renegade army list.

Khorne Renegades (Kain’s Chosen)
Unending Tide Detachment Size Cost
HQ 630
Renegade Command Squad, Master of the Horde, Khorne Devotion, command net 5 70
Elites
Blood Slaughterer 1 130
Troops
Renegade Infantry Platoon
1x Command squad 3 flamers 15 60
2x Infantry Squad of 15 w/ 3 flamers 30 120
Renegade Infantry Platoon
1x Command squad 3 flamers 15 60
2x Infantry Squad of 15 w/ 3 flamers 30 120
2x Renegade Veteran Squads of 5 10 70
The Purge Detachment 366
HQ
Renegade Command Squad 5 40
Elites
2x Renegade Disciple Squad of 5 10 70
Heavy Support
Battery of 2 Earthshakers, 7 crew 16 128
Battery of 2 Earthshakers, 7 crew 16 128
Khorne Daemonkin CAD Size Cost
HQ
Chaos Lord, Melta Bombs, Goredrinker, Axe of Khorne, Juggnaught of Khorne, Sigil of Corruption 1 210
Herald of Khorne 1 55
Troops
Bloodletters w/ Banner of Blood, Champion 8 85
Bloodletters w/ Banner of Blood, Champion 8 85
Fast Attack
Flesh Hounds 11 176
Heldrake 1 170
Aegis Defense Lines w/ Comms Relay 70
Total 851

L-13-Roboute the Firm-deskttop

Gladius Strike Force

Battle Company

Captain 90

Chaplain 90

Tactical Squad, Rhino 70

Tactical Squad, Rhino 70

Tactical Squad, Rhino 70

Tactical Squad, Rhino 70

Tactical Squad, Rhino 70

Tactical Squad, Rhino 70

Devastator Squad, Drop Pod 70

Devastator Squad, Drop Pod 70

Attack Bike 40

Attack Bike 40

Marneus Calgar, Armor antilochus 285

Scouts x 5

Scouts x 5

Scouts x 5

Librarius Conclave

Librarian lv. 2 Terminator Armor 115

Librarian Lv. 1 TDA 90

Librarian lv. 1 TDA 90

Knight Castigator 280

 

 

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Adam (Thediceabide.com)

Interesting Chaos list, though I’m not sure if spending 110 point in tax to get 1 more earthshaker than normal in the purge detachment is worthwhile. If you are going to go that route I might consider spawn instead of veterans, and possibly drop a pair of earthshakers for some wyverns. Since you only have one herald for blood tithe, the second battery isn’t that great compared to some other options.

I like the blood slaughterer too, but without the impaler, I just don’t care for them. You can also free up some points from that chaos lord, he has 70 points in melee weapons! The gore drinker is nice, but I really think it makes the axe of khorne redundant. The Axe of Khorne is specialist so you’re losing an attack, I would just take a power sword for when you want to use your full init. That alone will get you 20 points right there.

Kian Alden
6 years ago

So this list is a place holder for a much stronger one that is forthcoming. In the new list I’ll drop the blood slaughterer entirely, and a single hound to give all my soldiers Krak grenades and add two batteries of two rapiers to the army. The Purge also becomes a CAD so that the tax veterans become ob-sec.

Interestingly, I didn’t find having only one tithe battery to be limiting, and especially against strong targets like knights I just need to be sure to fire the tithe battery last. I just wish I could find a way to squeeze a third KDK HQ into the army….

One of my plans is to use the Blood Host with Slaughtercult and Gorepack instead of a CAD and see how the extra blood tithe treats me.

I understand what you’re saying about the Goredrinker, but its awesome to have a S10 instant death character with 6 attacks at init 5 🙂 The powersword makes a lot of sense with the gore drinker, especially because the Goredrinker buffs it.

Sueppchen
Sueppchen
6 years ago

I made a few Training games and am quite pleased with a Tzeentch List so far. I love this 55 Point Chaos Spawns. 12 Inch Movement, Objective Secured, Beast Rules, Fleet, Fearless and their solid Profile are an amazing combination. Infantry Squads with Chaos Sigils are also one of the best Objective Secured unit in the game. The Flesh hounds give you board control until midgame.

RenegadesandHereticsIA13 (Size: 136 Cost 1210)
HQ
Renegade Command Squad (Covenant of Tzeentch, Warlord)
Size: 5 Cost: 55

Elites
2 x Renegade Disciple Squad, Lasguns, Lascannon, Voxcaster-
Size: 2 x 5 Cost: 2 x 60

Renegade Disciple Squad, Lasguns, Lascannon
Size: 5 Cost: 55

Troops
Renegade Infantry Platoon 3x Infantry Squad, Lasguns, 3 x Chaos Sigil
Size: 3 x 10 Cost: 3x 35

Renegade Infantry Platoon 3x Infantry Squad, Lasguns, 3 x Chaos Sigil
Size: 3 x 10 Cost: 3x 35

3 x Renegade Chaos Spawn
Size: 3 x 3 Cost: 3x 55

Heavy Support

3 x Earthshaker cannon
Size: 18 x 3 Cost: 3x 165

3 x Earthshaker cannon
Size: 18 x 3 Cost: 3x 165
– – – > 165 Punkte

Renegade Strike Battery, 5 Wyvern
Size:5 Cost 275

Gorepack: Khorne Daemonkin (Size: 34 Cost 640)

2x Bikes, 2 Melta
Size: 2 x 3 Cost: 2x 96

4x Fleshhounds
Size: 4 x 7 Cost: 4x 112

Kian Alden
6 years ago
Reply to  Sueppchen

I like this list a lot!
The amount of artillery you are using makes The Purge detachment really attractive, especially with an Ordnance Tyrant HQ. Spawn give that army a lot of potential to annihilate enemy infantry (assault with a spawn, they all consolidate, hammer the unit with earth shakers and laugh as the spawn is not doubled out).

Sueppchen
Sueppchen
6 years ago
Reply to  Kian Alden

Yes, that combination would be great. Though you’d need one Vrak Detachement and a Primary Detachment from the Heretics in IA13. Otherwise there would be no way to get those Obsec Chaos Spawns. Also, the Chaos Sigil from Imperial Armour 13 is so much better. It lets you ignore your first failed Mrale Check each game turn, which makes those 35 point Infantry Squads basically fearless.
You can Charge almost any unit with such a squad and be sure that they get killed in the enemy turn- which leaves the enemy unit clumbed up for your artillery. That way the Ordnance Tyrant is not even needed- though he is still very good in such a list. Unfortunatly you cannot take an Ordnance Tyrant upgrade in a IA13-List.

Kian Alden
6 years ago
Reply to  Sueppchen

Ah wow those sigils are way better. Even the ones from Vraks would help though. I desperately need a way to control the behavior of my troopers, and this might be what I need.

W
W
6 years ago

Woo! Renegades! Thanks a lot for doing this report guys, and its cool to see the intern on camera for once

I do agree with Adam’s input above on the list though.

Kian Alden
6 years ago
Reply to  W

Thanks for the support 🙂 This is the 3rd iteration of the army so far and I’ve only had fun tweaking it. Strangely, I’ve found Cuddles (the blood slaughterer) to be an AMAZING counter assault unit, as most assault troops rely on S8 powerfists to get through vehicles his AV13 really stops them in their tracks. At the Hammer of Wrath GT he took on 3 heavy assault units (Chaos lord w/powerfist and hounds, TWC with power fist and lord, the legendary ‘Ork Deathstar’) and gave them a walloping, only dying after 2+ full turns of combat and doing irreparable damage.

W
W
6 years ago
Reply to  Kian Alden

The Blood Slaughterer is cool, but I do think the Lord is too expensive :b It’s strange to see Renegades without any Rapier batteries too!

Kian Alden
6 years ago
Reply to  W

I didn’t have the models :/ I’m using Forge Father Support guns from Mantic, and they have yet to arrive.

W
W
6 years ago
Reply to  Kian Alden

Ah I gotcha;) Yeah those are pretty cool, the FW artillery models can get really expensive! The eartshakers and medusas are just insanely priced imo.

WuTangDamaja
WuTangDamaja
6 years ago

Why is Pablo so annoying to watch

Pablo
Pablo
6 years ago
Reply to  WuTangDamaja

Not sure why I’m so annoying to watch. Any tips on how to make myself less annoying? I’m always up for some self-improvement

Sawyer Z
Sawyer Z
6 years ago

The knight castigator is 380, hopefully just a writing error and not an adding error xD

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