LVO 40K Championships Finals Results (Done!)

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Here is the spreadsheet with the 40K Results as we get them! And that’s a wrap, folks! We have a winner, Sean Nay den and his Nids take it all home!

Click here for the ongoing results!

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Troy
Troy
7 years ago

Check Tyler’s dice. Most likely he is blessed by the gods and rolls a 6 on every important roll, but I would feel better to verify it.

deflo
deflo
7 years ago

Post the top 8 lists!

Madcore
Madcore
7 years ago
Reply to  deflo

Agreed

Jim
Jim
7 years ago

So who won?

Jim
Jim
7 years ago
Reply to  Jim

Oh, sorry, I can’t do the timezone maths. πŸ™‚

Kwodd
Kwodd
7 years ago

Great Job FLG crew! Thoroughly enjoyed the finals broadcast.

RoockieBoy
7 years ago

Sean Nayden with Tyranids/Tyranids. The Lictorshame strikes back!

fluger
fluger
7 years ago

9 lictors wins again?

winterman
7 years ago
Reply to  fluger

6 lictors. He went with CAD + Leviathan this time around. No deathleaper, added a flyrant for 3 flyrants. No stealers, swapped for mucolids.

fluger
fluger
7 years ago
Reply to  winterman

I’d love to see the list he ran. Not sure if you remember from Ordo, but I was running 9 lictors in 5th edition and I just LOVE that someone is winning with them in 7th. Makes my heart sing.

winterman
7 years ago
Reply to  fluger

Finals lists

http://imgur.com/20KLApr

Yup I remember, after that guy took 9 lictors to BolsCon got us all wondering about using em.

Ciaran
Ciaran
7 years ago

Did nayden just get lucky with matchups? Not seeing how that list didn’t get shot off the table.

Thomas
7 years ago
Reply to  Ciaran

Lictor shame pretty much always looks “easy” to beat on paper but way harder on the table top it seems. It greatly reduces the effectiveness of enemy shooting.

Fagerlund
7 years ago
Reply to  Ciaran

According to the livestream he did get lucky in a sense though, because Nick N apparently accidently cheated vs him last time they played in a tournament so decided to make it up to him this time and thus played without Grimoire, Fateweaver re-roll and without re-rolling the Warpstormtable. Quite a big handicap that Nayden is far too good to lose with. πŸ™‚
Other than that it was just the typical Lictor shame that most people don’t really know how to deal with. It’s a very good list that is a lot better than the sum of its parts.

Loopy
7 years ago
Reply to  Ciaran

I would assume LOS blocking terrain helps, even vs drop pods. Even without the blocking, they’re still standing in ruins.

Kartr
7 years ago

It was ruled last night that it cannot be called “The Lucie Lictor Shame” since Sean has won two GTs with it. So congratulations to the Window Lictors! πŸ˜€

Kartr
7 years ago
Reply to  Kartr

G’dammit auto correct!? Where the Hell did Lucie come from!?

Adam (Thediceabide.com)
Reply to  Kartr

Nnnnnnnnnnnnnn…

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nkump
nkump
7 years ago

ahahha…thats actually exactly what popped in my head too!

Time to go watch ‘Come to Daddy’ and get freaked out again!

SacTownBri
SacTownBri
7 years ago

It was interesting to watch the final match. Not knowing the game perfectly myself, the announcers made it very, very difficult to follow the game. I never really understood Nicks deployment strategy whereas Sean was fairly obvious.

SacTownBri
SacTownBri
7 years ago
Reply to  SacTownBri

Oh also any news on the other games? WFB and Warmachine? I’m really interested to hear how End Times shook up this years tournament.

Loopy
7 years ago

Awesome coverage. Thanks, guys!

Sanchezsam2
Sanchezsam2
7 years ago

To be fair Sean already lost on the qualifier to Tyler’s eldar list. he beat a slightly nerfed nick in the top 8 (afaik nick was usin grimore although he wasn’t using fateweavers reroll and they still sorta tied w Sean winning cause he killed summoned units). Sean then Tables Tyler’s list in the top 4. And he beats nicks undefeated blood Angels list in the top 2.
This tournament could of easily been won by a chaos, tyranid, eldar army it seems.
Heck blood Angels and grey Knights were doing great as well. That draigo star mishap in the top 8 In round 5 was just hard to watch.

Roofer11
Roofer11
7 years ago
Reply to  Sanchezsam2

Nick wasn’t using Grimoire, Warpstorm or Fateweaverr’s reroll. That’s a pretty serious nerf. Also, Sean lost to Nick Rose earlier in the day, not eldar. The finals was a rematch.

Deuce11
Deuce11
7 years ago

Will the final game be uploaded to YouTube? I want to watch it but missed the live stream.

Fagerlund
7 years ago
Reply to  Deuce11

If you don’t want to wait the un-edited full broadcast is possible to watch over at Twitch. Just go to “Past broadcasts”: http://www.twitch.tv/frontlinegaming_tv/

Greg
Greg
7 years ago

Just wanted to quickly comment that FLG seemed to put on a great event and the finals was also awesome. I managed to catch half of the match on Twitch. While I find iNcontroL and Goatboy entertaining, I found the commentating to be fairly distracting and uninformative. Perhaps things are done differently in SC2, but generally the goal with sports commentating (and I imagine esports as well – look at League of Legends) is to illuminate and highlight the action. It’s fine to fill the time with off-topic chatter when nothing much is going on, I.e players just looking at the table deciding their next move, but at least turn up the player volume so that we can hear what they are trying to do. At many points it was literally impossible to hear the players or see the action as the screen was zoomed in on the dice tray. And with players as good and experienced as we had commentating, they could certainly help viewers by providing insight into the action. It sounded like they were quite close to the table. If there are issues with affecting the game, they could be further away and watch a video feed. There were even some points where they said “yeah I have no idea what is going on but it looks like…” Again this is not a personal jab but perhaps this could be worked on for future streams which I understand FLG wants to get into and for next years championship.

iNcontroL
7 years ago
Reply to  Greg

lol bro.. so funny. We can’t see the table save for what is on the stream and no we can’t get any closer because we would interrupt the players OR commentate things that aids one or the other and ruins the integrity of the game. It was a 2 hour 45 minute match where we were either letting the players be heard and commenting on that OR we were speculating on what we COULD see which wasn’t much. Outside of that we damn right did fill time with “off topic” discussion (mostly still warhammer) and we did commentate the action / insight as much as we could. The stream was set up THAT DAY and this was the SECOND TIME I have ever casted Warhammer. Please spare me the “this is how we do it in Sports and League of Legends). I’ve been casting games for over 10 years and have more experience in game casting than anyone you could possibly name. I didn’t do a perfect job but given the tech I had at my disposal and the experience/prep time I had with this game specifically you got about as good of a cast as you are going to get.. sounds egotistical? Well, that might be because I make a really good living doing this each day and around the world. Being criticized for things I cannot possibly control or help and then being told by some random dude what sports broadcasters do better is.. irritating to say the least. You got 9 hours of free casting from a guy who does it professionally. Come on?

Avi
Avi
7 years ago
Reply to  iNcontroL

Considering your credentials I don’t think you have to worry too much about what some rando thinks. I really enjoyed hearing you and Thomas shoot the shit and had no problem following the game. Thanks for the effort!

iNcontroL
7 years ago
Reply to  Avi

thanks <3

Greg
Greg
7 years ago
Reply to  iNcontroL

I’m sorry if you were offended by my post. Probably a product of receiving comments on Twitch to similar effect (I couldn’t see them as my chat was somehow disabled). Honestly, my comment was some genuine feedback and constructive criticism – if it came off as too harsh, I apologize. It was not personal though, and I actually pointed out that you are both entertaining and experienced. With that being said though, sometimes it s a good thing for one to not rest too heavily on their laurels and continue to strive to improve. I am not saying I would have done a better job, or that anyone could have (and no, I would have no way of knowing about your preparation time, technical limitations or physical restrictions – I actually specifically said you may not be able to get closer for risk of interfering and thus may need to rely on a video feed, which you did do). All I was saying was that for the 2 hour portion I got to watch, there were times that I thought more comments could have been provided or more opportunities for the players chat to be heard over the commentating. I think I understand this game fairly well and am fairly intelligent (without a shred of evidence to back up this internet claim), but there were several instances where things just seemed unclear from a viewing POV and where some commentating would have assisted. And I know you are an experienced nid player so you would definitely have interesting things to say about that specific match.

Anyways, you have clearly taken this personally and as this is your “career” I can understand you feeling the need to retaliate or be hostile. Not looking to have an argument, and if you believe you have reached the pinnacle of commentating, in sports, esports, 40k or otherwise, and this is as good as anyone would get, then that’s cool. More power to you.

Darkwynn
Darkwynn
7 years ago
Reply to  iNcontroL

Incontrol you were awesome. Don’t let the random people get you down πŸ™‚

iNcontroL
7 years ago
Reply to  Darkwynn

thanks bro πŸ™‚

Kwodd
Kwodd
7 years ago
Reply to  iNcontroL

The John Madden impression was epic =)

Jural
Jural
7 years ago
Reply to  iNcontroL

I don’t know how you would have done better. Nice job INControl.

I agree the whole format may need some work and set-up, but at the end of the day:

1) I could follow everything
2) I was entertained
3) It was free πŸ˜‰

iNcontroL
7 years ago
Reply to  Greg

you called our casting “distracting and uninformative” and are now calling it “constructive criticism” while only having watched 2 hours but drawing comparisons to million dollar broadcasts.. I appreciate your response and admission that it may not have been the most informed post but yes I did take your post personally as you made it a fairly directed criticism at us specifically and then proceeded to give us advice on things we cannot control nor do. I apologize if I appeared overly hostile.. you seem super rational and kind in terms of intentions so I will back off now.

Kwodd
Kwodd
7 years ago
Reply to  iNcontroL

Haters gonna hate.

fluger
fluger
7 years ago

Found this: http://i.imgur.com/20KLApr.jpg

Am I wrong or was Nick Rose OVER paying for his scouts? Those units should be 120/120/110 if I’m reading them right, not the 130/130/130 he has listed. That’s 40 pts right there…

Aaron
7 years ago
Reply to  fluger

Seems you are right….maybe he took veteran scout sergeant? But as it reads, it would indeed be 120.

fluger
fluger
7 years ago
Reply to  Aaron

Yeah, I’m wondering there was gear that isn’t listed or something, or if those numbers aren’t the actual points there.

Loopy
7 years ago
Reply to  fluger

That’s what I thought, too. Seems to be the only possibility. Also, however, aren’t Dev Cents a heavy choice? I never play them, so I really wouldn’t know.

RoockieBoy
7 years ago
Reply to  Loopy

In the Sentinels of Terra Supplements, Dev cents can be taken both as Elite and Heavy. My guess would be to deny giving points in big guns never tire.

DCannon4Life
DCannon4Life
7 years ago
Reply to  Loopy

Sentinels of Terra allow a player to double dip into Centurions while still only investing in an Allied Detachment…one unit goes in Heavy, the other in Elite. πŸ™‚ Shenanigans!

Aaron
7 years ago

Anyone videos posted of the championship match?

Doogansquest
Doogansquest
7 years ago

Can we stop pretending Tyranids are in the dumps? They are winning battle reports. They are winning tournaments. They are doing it with a variety of lists.

winterman
7 years ago
Reply to  Doogansquest

I think people stopped that back when skyblight was released. At least people who keep up with things.

Of course those of us who like stuff other than flyrants are still not entirely happy, but that’s another story.

bigpig
bigpig
7 years ago
Reply to  Doogansquest

Yeah, most people backed off when skyblight became an option AND the buffs in 7th. There is still a lack of internal balance in the codex and I think most nid players would like to be able to play with more of their units and still be competitive, but the army does have the tools to win.

Darkwynn
Darkwynn
7 years ago

Looks like your right Fluger. They should only be 120/110. I did it out of battlescribe. 50 point handicap is well a big handicap πŸ™

fluger
fluger
7 years ago
Reply to  Darkwynn

Holy shit! I unofficially award you the victory. Congrats on getting there with 50 pts less than others. I love your list. SoT scouts are the bee’s knees.

fluger
fluger
7 years ago
Reply to  fluger

Also, don’t use battlescribe! Excel spreadsheets FTW!

CaptainA
CaptainA
7 years ago
Reply to  Darkwynn

You mean you should have had MORE scouts! NOOO!

Fagerlund
7 years ago
Reply to  Darkwynn

Centurions on the other hand are ten points more than what you have written, and what did you do with that Command Squad? Don’t they need to be five man strong? I only see three guys… and is that supposed to be an allied detatchment fpr the Flesh Tearers? If so there’s one HQ too many, if it’s supposed to be a CAD it’s one Troop too few… You really messed up that list!

Fagerlund
7 years ago
Reply to  Fagerlund

I actually made this exact army in Battlescribe and it’s exactly the point cost that it says on the top – 1847. The handwritten ones are the only ones that are off. So basically it’s just a illegal army due to too many Fast Attack and HQ for an Allied Detatchment or too few Troops for a CAD.

fluger
fluger
7 years ago
Reply to  Fagerlund

It’s a Flesh Tearers STrike Force Detachment: Compulsory: 1 HQ, 1 Troop, 1 FA
Optional: 1 HQ, 3 Troops, 1 Elite, 5 FA, 3 HS, Fortification, 1 LoW
Restrictions: All units (except fortifications) must have the Blood Angels Faction.
Command Benefits:
Explosion of Bloodlust: Each time a unit from this Detachment successfully charges an enemy unit and the number rolled for its charge range is 10 or more (before modifiers), that unit gains the Rage special rule for the duration of that Assault phase. Note that the unit does not need to move the full distance rolled to gain this effect.
Lord of Cretacia: If this Detachment is chosen as your Primary Detachment, you can re-roll the result when rolling on the Flesh Tearers Warlord Traits table.
Source: Campaign: Shield of Baal: Exterminatus

Avi
Avi
7 years ago
Reply to  Fagerlund

Lot of assumptions based in ignorance there.

He has a Sentinels CAD and a Flesh Tearers Strike Force detachment from Exterminatus (which has all its requirements fulfilled).

Darkwynn
Darkwynn
7 years ago
Reply to  Fagerlund

Uh, you should really check that out again before saying things like its illegal. Otherwise rumors or nasty stuff starts like that because people don’t look into it much more.

Flesh teraers formation is compulsory 1 hq, 1 ,troop 1 fast attack those areall there. You can have extra in there like another HQ and elite. I don’t know why tou think that is illegal but its there.

The Cad is legal too…

Fagerlund
7 years ago
Reply to  Darkwynn

My bad! I’d delete the comment if I could. The only mistake is the handwritten numbers and the weird looking Command Squad then (but the points are accounted for there).

fluger
fluger
7 years ago
Reply to  Darkwynn

I’ve added it up a bunch of times and it comes out to be 1847 pts on the nose. So, while the numbers you wrote were wrong, the army is on point. Battlescribe didn’t let you down.

z3n1st
z3n1st
7 years ago
Reply to  Darkwynn

CAD and Flesh Tearer Detachment is legit and a nice way to grab more of what you want (similar to Real Space Raiders for Dark Eldar actually)

Did have a question though because I remember more scouts in our game. (Lynx and VSG, Hammer and Anvil, Game 4)

2 combat squads on objective 3 opposite corner my deployment zone from my vsg
1 combat squad on objective 1 by tech marine
1 6 man squad in fortified forest opposite long corner from vsg
2 combat squads coming in from reserve behind the 6 man BA unit
and the 10 strong sitting on the other objective 3 diagonal from my vsg

I am positive that is what was on the table, along with the cents, dps, devs, and characters.

Darkwynn
Darkwynn
7 years ago
Reply to  Darkwynn

Jason,

I didn’t even have that many models to use. I think in the future, I might paint dots or some type of stripes on the bases if it helps. Instead of using the shoulder pads.

The squad in the forest at the time was a 5 man squad and not the blood angel squad. The other squad that came in reserve was a combat squaded into two 5 mans.

The squad your confusing in the corner as being 10 man was not. Remember I specifically called out that these were not,combat squaded because they couldn’t be. They were the blood angel squad.

Maybe some of the scouts in the line of the table were back there from when the other ones died as time was cutting closed cause some confusion. I hope,that wasn’t the case as I know we didn’t have a lot of,time left. Hope that clears it up as I didn’t have enough models,for me to have 41 scouts and they checked model count during the qualifiers.

Cheers Nick and great game.

z3n1st
z3n1st
7 years ago
Reply to  Darkwynn

Nick,

I think you are right, we were in a bit of rush towards the end and I think I saw some of those scouts lined up (really actually dead), just near the others over by that Objective three on your left. You VERY clearly marked them by numbers, which WOW was cool. I enjoyed our game quite a bit and look forward to a rematch next year! Good luck to you at Adepticon (I assume you are going), and we still need to grab that brew!

Darkwynn
Darkwynn
7 years ago
Reply to  Darkwynn

You too bud, by the way we still need to,get drinks πŸ™‚

z3n1st
z3n1st
7 years ago
Reply to  Darkwynn

Heh, I was looking for you at the Pub Crawl, but I think you had other things on your mind, like the finals! Congrats on making it to the last table, that’s a mean feat for sure and that list was fun to play against.

Fagerlund
7 years ago
Reply to  Fagerlund

All though technically I guess one of the Scouts could’ve moved over to BA and thus the only error was one Scout squad too many benefitting from Bolter Drill. *shrugs*

Vendra
Vendra
7 years ago

I am so happy to see the nids win this one!

Ghost Valley
Ghost Valley
7 years ago

I played a 50 scout Sentinels of Terra list at LVO and was dismantled by a 4 tyrant list – only 3 scouts away from being tabled. I was pulling for Darkwynn and his list certainly shows me all the places where I went wrong.

Jake Corteen
Jake Corteen
7 years ago
Reply to  Ghost Valley

This is something intriguing me – with all the talk about needing to be able to handle fliers in this metagame, how did Darkwynn’s list cope?

As I’m playing about with a Raptors/White Scars hybrid scout/bike list at the moment myself, I just can’t see how to shoehorn any useful air defence in. Is it just a case of “ignore the fliers, try to score enough on objectives”? (Has worked for me before just fine, but in far less competitive environments without the likes of flyrant spam about).

z3n1st
z3n1st
7 years ago

Reece and Frankie and the rest of the FLG crew/family; great job! Had a great time, played against really talented opponents, and left Vegas yearning for more!

Freeman
Freeman
7 years ago

Is the twitch gamecast ever going to be put on the youtube channel? Trying to watch the twitch past broadcast is a nightmare.

CaptainA
CaptainA
7 years ago
Reply to  Freeman

I believe they have plans to edit and upload the broadcasts.

Freeman
Freeman
7 years ago

Awesome. I want a proper look at the lictor game play.

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