Signals from the Frontline: Warhammer 40k and General Gaming News, Rumors, Tactics and Comedy!

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Show Notes

1-6-15

Intro

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News

  • We are a Warmachine Weekend Qualifier! Be sure to get your tickets soon, we anticipate that it will fill up. Warmachine will have more awesome prizes!
  • Big news for the Dropzone Commander LVO event, Simon and Dave from Hawk will be there! That is going to be awesome. Grab your tickets for this event which will be a blast.
  • We still have 1 lingering 40k friendly ticket left for anyone that wants to participate.
  • 40k Champs is packed to the gills! 278 registered players! Going to be awesome.
  • The top ITC players are going to be REALLY stoked at the LVO. Be sure to see that go down.
  • Some of the new F.A.T. Mats that may or mar not be at the LVO, might be looking pretty damn awesome!
    • We will have a restock of F.A.T. Mats in the European warehouse, today. They should be ready to ship in the next few days.
  • Kromlech releases some cool new minis and they are sending a ton of prizes for the LVO! We wanted to say thank you to Kromlech for their sponsorship.

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  • TGITG show off a 3D of Baba Yaga

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  • New Warzone Releases are looking pretty cool! Bauhaus Grizzly and Nepharite of Algeroth for the Dark Legion.

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  • The next Signals from the Frontline Special Edition is coming up! We will have special guest Skari, from SkaredCast to join Frankie and Reece to discuss Dark Eldar!

Upcoming ITC Events

  • Endgame 40k ITC tournament was just held and it was won by Trevor Van Cleave, 2nd was Geoff “iNcontroL” Robinson, third place was Grant “GTA” Van Den Bosch.
  • TSHFT is coming up!
  • Bash in the New Year is the weekend after TSFHT, the first ITC event in Japan!
  • MUGU Games is holding Warmaster, also the weekend of January 17th-18th up in Washington.
  • Then, of course, the LVO to round the ITC season out and crown the champ!

Rumors: The Rumor Section is gathered from the web and is not in any way information we receive from  any manufacturer nor is it necessarily accurate. This section of the podcast is intended for entertainment purposes only.

  • More Skitarii rumors, this time rumors that a walker tank has been spotted for them called a Dunewalker and sports a Eradication Beamer.
  • Skaven Thanquol and Boneripper are back and huge! Looking very cool.
    • Giant model
    • Level 4 wizard
    • This Hardback Endtimes book may not be available to retailers or only in limited quantities.
  • Harlequin codex rumors!
    • -Raiders
      -Wave Serpents
      -Venoms
      -Jetbikes
    • – Seer (clampack)
      – Master (clampack)
      – Death Jester (clampack)
      – Harlequin Troupe
      – Harlequin Jetbikes
      -Razorwings
    • Formations
    • Relics: Special Kiss, Mask, Web of Skulls, Glaive, Pistol and an orb.

Rant Session

Tactics Corner

Rules Lawyer

  • Mycetic Spore Pod has 45 degree fire arcs.
  • Blood Angels Formation was voted to not work the turn it comes in from reserves.

Completed Commissions

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List Review

 

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44 Responses to “Signals from the Frontline: Warhammer 40k and General Gaming News, Rumors, Tactics and Comedy!”

  1. Eldarain January 6, 2015 2:26 pm
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    That Dark Eldar episode is going to be great. Love watching Skari’s DE Batreps.

    • Reecius
      Reecius January 6, 2015 3:33 pm
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      Yeah, he’s a good dude and knows his DE.

      • colinsherlow January 6, 2015 5:59 pm
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        Stoked for the talk. When do you plan on releasing the talk? Will you also do this via written as well?

  2. Adam
    Adam (Thediceabide.com) January 6, 2015 2:37 pm
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    I think you might have misread the rare knights rule for Codex: Imperial Knights, it says “However, owing to their rarity in the 41st Millennium, you may not have more Cerastus Knight-______ in your army than you have Knights of other kinds.”

    If you have 1 Acheron and 0 of anything else, then you have more Acherons in your army than Knights of other kinds.

    You can however have 2 different types of Cerastus (i.e. one castigator, one acheron and one lancer in a single formation), just that your podcast made it sound like you could take 3 castigators, which is incorrect. 🙂

    • Reecius
      Reecius January 6, 2015 2:58 pm
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      It actually isn’t incorrect if you apply the logic we’ve been using. And we’ve been going round and round on this stupid thing, hahaha. 1 is more than 0, you are right, however, if you use that logic you can take NONE of the rare knights without taking every knight other type of Knight, too, which isn’t possible. (In order to not have more than other types, they must all be at 1).

      So, assuming you reject that reading of the rule, you have to assume you CAN have 1 rare knight even if other types are at 0. Therefore, if you have 1-3 of the same rare knight, you still do not have more of them than other types.

      Pure RAW you can’t take any of the damn things, lol.

      • Adam
        Adam (Thediceabide.com) January 6, 2015 5:14 pm
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        I wouldn’t say it’s RAW, it’s an equivocal argument, which is then being used to justify ignoring the whole rule… so it’s kinda the opposite of logic, i.e. business as usual in the world of 40k rules lawyering. 🙂

        • Reecius
          Reecius January 6, 2015 7:35 pm
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          Everyone’s a critic!

          • Adam
            Adam (Thediceabide.com) January 7, 2015 9:57 am
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            It’s only because I love you that I don’t want you to say stuff that’s wrong on the internet. 🙂

          • Reecius
            Reecius January 7, 2015 4:36 pm
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            All good dude, I get yelled at for rules stuff on a near daily basis lately, haha.

      • AbusePuppy January 6, 2015 8:19 pm
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        Except note the phrase “…Knights of other kinds” there, as opposed to “Knights of any other kind.” I don’t think the RAW is actually unclear on this one at all.

  3. iNcontroL January 6, 2015 3:07 pm
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    Nice podcast as always.. YOU JERKS! 🙂 I actually think the ruling on the Blood Angels assaulting formation on turn 1 is fair AND it is really good. Having your fliers come in turn 1 is already a lot of extra firepower.. hard to drop a av12 3hp flier without yours in as well (assuming the BA player goes first) and then assaulting after DS’ing is still really powerful be it on turn 1 or any turn frankly..

    nicely done gents. btw I am winning tshift. No joke, I am!

    • Dr.insanotron January 6, 2015 3:19 pm
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      Do you want to put money on it

      • Reecius
        Reecius January 6, 2015 3:32 pm
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        I’m beating both of you and taking your money! Muahaha!

      • iNcontroL January 6, 2015 3:41 pm
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        We did ben. 20$.. 😉

        • Dr.insanotron January 6, 2015 3:50 pm
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          Now that bet was to see which member of our team would place hire not whether or not you would win

      • Jeremy Veysseire
        MikhailLenin January 6, 2015 4:07 pm
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        I already call it that InControl will take Best General but Frankie will win Best Overall if his painted army is that impressive.

        • Dr.insanotron January 6, 2015 7:15 pm
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          Hope there soft scores really help them out after I bet them both

          • Jeremy Veysseire
            MikhailLenin January 7, 2015 10:18 am
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            ahah Ben, remember you also need to beat me. Our record against each other needs to be re-balanced.

          • dr.insanotron January 7, 2015 11:29 am
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            or I could just let one of them bump you off for me

          • Jeremy Veysseire
            MikhailLenin January 7, 2015 11:30 am
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            Right back at you buddy 😉

  4. bigpig January 6, 2015 3:21 pm
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    Good ruling on the spore/cyte firing arcs.

    • Reecius
      Reecius January 6, 2015 3:32 pm
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      Felt like the intent fairly clearly.

      • AbusePuppy January 7, 2015 2:09 pm
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        It’s bizarre because the BRB _specifically notes_ that monstrous creatures are not limited in their fire arcs in any way, and then they go and make the Tyrannocyte the way it is.

        I dunno, Reece, I think between this and the BA thing and all of the others in the FAQ you guys are steering dangerously close to “this is how I think the rules should be” as opposed to “this is what the rules say.”

        • Dr.insanotron January 7, 2015 2:34 pm
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          I have to agree. Kind of a strange ruling when the BRB is so specific

          • Eldarain January 7, 2015 2:44 pm
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            True. In this instance though the fact the rules writers have no idea how their game works was rather evident.

            There was an interview in the White Dwarf detailing how he thought it worked.

            Kinda crazy when they charge what they do for their rules and don’t have a firm grasp on them.(Thought you were a model company aimed mostly at collectors Kirby?)

          • Reecius
            Reecius January 7, 2015 4:41 pm
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            It is, but, the RAI was what we went with as the rules (clearly to me) show that each weapons was meant to fire at the nearest target. RAW though, is really clear in this case.

        • Reecius
          Reecius January 7, 2015 4:33 pm
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          People have been telling us that for years =) Anytime you alter RAW, that flag gets waved. I used to be pretty hardcore RAW, but as I have been becoming more and more of a TO, I have definitely swayed more towards the blending of RAW and RAI.

          • AbusePuppy January 7, 2015 9:15 pm
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            Maybe if people repeatedly tell you the same thing you should take it as a sign of something? You don’t have to follow absolute RAW in every case, because that’s silly, but I think you need a good reason not to- and, as I said before, in far too many cases the reasoning behind the supposed RAI interpretation is “we don’t want it to work that way so it doesn’t,” and I don’t think that’s good enough. There are lots of things in the game I don’t think should be the way they are, but just deciding that they’re different is a pretty huge step to take and one that is going to alienate people.

  5. Novastar January 6, 2015 4:24 pm
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    Don’t forget to take double Sicarans with that storm raven formation :))

    • bigpig January 6, 2015 9:13 pm
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      If you need a crutch I guess 😉

      • Novastar January 7, 2015 8:34 am
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        Barbed Hierodrule anybody lol

    • bigpig January 6, 2015 9:13 pm
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      We need us a game soon. I’m starting to ramp up

  6. TinBane January 7, 2015 2:49 am
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    Awesome to hear Dave and Simon are coming to LVO!
    Simon started at hawk doing a bunch of roles, but his big contribution is a focus on competetive play and balance. He used to do customer support, at the start!

    Can you ask hawk if they will be selling drop pods at the LVO. For any DZC players, these are available only at events/cons that hawk have a presence at!

  7. War Corgi January 7, 2015 4:04 am
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    Thanks for the explanation regarding the Angel’s Fury Spearhead formation vote. While I disagree with the ruling, I respect your opinion and appreciate the thought you put into the issue. Great podcast as always. Thanks!

  8. Cavalier January 7, 2015 4:30 am
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    Hell yeah I can’t wait to hear Skari on the podcast. He’s an awesome dude and fantastic 40k player. I’ve always wanted him to go to the LVO or the BAO just to root him on. I’d also love to see him and Frankie in a doubles match against some non-DE opponents… that’d be scary stuff.

  9. Gonewild40k January 7, 2015 9:26 am
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    I haven’t had the opportunity to listen to this ep, yet. What was the ruling on BA formation? No first turn assault/ can’t measure from flyer hull?

    • Eldarain January 7, 2015 10:48 am
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      No first turn assault but you can measure from the hull.

      I personally saw nothing vague or unclear about how the formation worked.

      But in fairness there is nothing vague or unclear about how the LoW on their banned list works either.

      If the council of TOs decided that this needed to be changed for balance reasons in their events that is understandable and part of the arrangement you agree to by attending their events.

      • Gonewild40k January 7, 2015 11:23 am
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        I think that is a fair ruling, although, this formation and the ability to perform a 1st turn assault still pales in comparison the devastating capability of adlance, imo.

      • TinBane January 7, 2015 4:16 pm
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        I think Reece went to great pains to point out that he’s not arguing it’s vague or unclear. Just so it’s clear to anyone who hasn’t listened to the podcast.

      • Reecius
        Reecius January 7, 2015 4:36 pm
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        That is pretty much it in a nut shell, Eldarain.

        • Pascal Roggen January 7, 2015 10:07 pm
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          it’s a shame, it will never be played now. the one, possibly meta mildly shifting formation is now, utterly useless[for a decent player to contemplate bringing].

          is it a cool way to get 3 ravens and three tactical squads, sure….I guess??

          It’s a disappointing knee jerk feargasm.

          you already can’t 1st turn assault in 1/3rd of the games just because of the deployment.

          There’s one less thing to try and use now…sad:(

          At least promise there might be some play testing on it? It’d be nice to see it maybe played by a good person at any point.
          At the moment it’s just an awful trap if you try and make use of the assault ability.

  10. Hotsauceman1 January 7, 2015 4:21 pm
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    Wait….The Council of TOs meets on a call?
    I thought that they meet in the shodows and only wore hoods

    • Reecius
      Reecius January 7, 2015 4:30 pm
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      Lol! I light candles and wear a hood on the call, just because it feels appropriate. =P