Signals from the Frontline: Warhammer 40K and General Gaming News, Rumors, Tactics and Comedy!

signals from the Frontline

Show Notes

10-18-14

Intro

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News

  •  Pirate Orks! Awesome, from Spellcrow Minis.

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  • Antenocities Workshop comes out with a cool Pool Table terrain piece.

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  • Bushido releases Master Akari.

master akari

 

  • Solar Auxilia Lasrifle section coming out. These guys were elite fighters in the Imperial Army, just under Space Marines.

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  • More Toughest Girls in the Galaxy!

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  • Prodos shows off their new releases.

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  • Punkapocalyptic releases some really cool new minis.

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Upcoming ITC Events

  • We added the Guardian Cup Lite! event to the lineup, a one day tournament, November 22nd.
  • Also, don’t forget to use CaptainA’s awesome tokens he made for free, which are available on the FLG website under the community tab.
  • We added the Scorched Earth Open to the ITC lineup, in Peoria, AZ, May 16, 2015!

Rumors: The Rumor Section is gathered from the web and is not in any way information we receive from  any manufacturer nor is it necessarily accurate. This section of the podcast is intended for entertainment purposes only.

  • Fantasy armies being combined?
  • New Elf book in the Endtimes story arc will be about Khaine and focus on elves. Rumors that Malekith and Teclis will have to join forces to fight Chaos.
  • Rumors of Fantasy models going to round bases on movement trays with lots more space between models to reduce the cost per unit.
  • Bretonians to be “squatted?”

Rant Session

  • Is “Human Centipede” the Haemonculus favorite movie?

Tactics Corner

  • Knight Armor facings arcs.

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Rules Lawyer

  • Skimmers Deep Striking
    • Pg. 89 States that if a skimmer ends its movement on friendly or enemy models, it moves the minimum distance to avoid that.
    • Deep strike seems to count as moving.
    • Therefore, do skimmers reduce the scatter if they end up over models that would cause them to mishap?

List Review

Dark eldar 1850 2 detatchments
Primary detachment from the DE codex
Archon, blaster, webway portal. 110 x2
20 Kalabites, Saybarite, Haywire g, blaster p, 2 Blasters, 2 Splinter can. 250 x2
5 Scourges, 3 Heat lances. 110
3 Talos 360
Ravager, 3 dark lances 125 x2

Second detachment plain CAD
Haemonculus, Liquefier gun. 85 x2
5 Kalibite, Blaster, Venom, splinter cannon. 120 x2

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22 Responses to “Signals from the Frontline: Warhammer 40K and General Gaming News, Rumors, Tactics and Comedy!”

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    bigpig October 18, 2014 1:03 am #

    At work so can’t listen until tomorrow, but interested to see the ruling on that skimmer one. I saw someone pushing that on another board

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    Iddy00711 October 18, 2014 3:01 am #

    @Rules Lawyer

    The scope of the meaning on bullet point 2, rests on ‘counts as moving’.

    Now if you define ‘count as’ as you would in everyday speech, for example a proxy model ‘counts as’ a riptide, then what your not saying is that proxy model is a riptide (unless you’ve proxying a riptide with a riptide hah). But what you are saying is that for all other in game functions and rules that non-riptide model is a riptide (i.e. like a riptide).

    Deep striking isn’t an actually a movement (it’s a deployment from reserves) and it has restrictions on movement, in the movement phase, after it’s placement.

    So a deep striking skimmer is in essence ‘proxying’ normal movement, it has all the negative/ positive effects of moving but without the actually move per se and since it’s not ACTUALLY moving it doesn’t benefit from the ruling in first bullet point.

    Analytics aside the rulebook is pretty clear on this, the ‘counts as moving’ line is in the shooting section of the deep striking rules, i.e. counts as moving for the purpose of shooting.

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      Novastar October 18, 2014 2:38 pm #

      Funny thing is deep strikes happen in the movement phase not before( you only roll for reserves before movement) and there is no other way for a skimmer to be forced to end it’s move over enemy models

      And the court doesn’t need an archon to be fieldable, its so when you play unbound nothing will have a “unit” tax to take, same reason all the old dedicated transports are being moved to fast attack

      • Reecius
        Reecius October 18, 2014 2:46 pm #

        Actually, if a skimmer rams a vehicle with infantry in front of the vehicle, and doesn’t blow the vehicle up, it would then end its move over models.

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          dr.insanotron October 18, 2014 4:30 pm #

          Not true. Any none vehicle models in the ram path are treated as being Tank shocked and would have to move out of the vehicles way

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          dr.insanotron October 18, 2014 4:39 pm #

          Also want to point out that the rules for moving a skimmer is not specific to the movement phase, but rather moving it as a general rule witch would apply when ever it is moved.

          Now go to page 12 under scatter and read the fourth bullet points says to do when you don’t roll a hit

          Answer is you MOVE the model a number of inches the dice indicate

          Just want to put that out there

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            Iddy00711 October 19, 2014 1:31 am
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            Not sure what rule book youre reading mate. Here I’ll print out whats in mine…

            ‘Arriving by deep strike

            Roll for the arrival of all Deep Striking units as specified in the rules for reserves (pg135) and then deploy them as follows’

            No mention of movement here.

            ‘ first place one model from the unit anywhere on the table, in the position you’d like it to arrive, and roll for scatter to determine the model’s final position. If a vehicle scatters… do not change it’s facing – it must continue to face the same direction’

            Now that clears it up, total absence of the word movement. The text is saying that you pick and point, and that point’s final positional is determined by rolling a scatter dice. The restriction on movement is emphasised in the last part.

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            Dr.insanotron October 19, 2014 6:04 am
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            You need to read the rules for scatter mate

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            dr.insanotron October 19, 2014 6:29 am
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            It very clearly says on page 12 under the Scatter rule fourth bullet point

            If an arrow is rolled, MOVE the object the distance shown on the 2D6 in the direction of the arrow . Ignore intervening terrain, units, ETC, unless the rule states otherwise

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          Novastar October 19, 2014 9:01 pm #

          But the skimmer also isn’t “forced” to ram a vehicle with infantry in front of it, that’s the players choice

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    bridges60 October 18, 2014 5:15 am #

    Half Baked!

    • Reecius
      Reecius October 18, 2014 10:55 am #

      Yes, that’s it!

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        Eldarain October 18, 2014 1:41 pm #

        It was fruit cocktail not pudding. 🙂

        “If I gave you my fruit today then you’d want it every day and I wouldn’t get my vitamins…”

        “Squirrel Master won’t always be there to protect you! Next time I’m going to want my cocktail… Fruit!”

        Great movie.

        • Reecius
          Reecius October 18, 2014 2:23 pm #

          Hahaha, that’s right! Thanks for the correction =)

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    TrueKnight October 18, 2014 8:24 am #

    Damn u beat me to it, yupp Half Baked!!

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    Iddy00711 October 18, 2014 10:35 am #

    Hah, sorry should I dumb down my English. The problem with the whole deep striking skimmer thing is to do with a mix up with the words (in England we call it an ambiguity).

    So if there’s a mix up with the words you’ve got to use more technical language to make clear what’s being said.

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    Hotsauceman1 October 18, 2014 7:04 pm #

    What About the Hotsauce and Keno Variety show? Are we ever going to do that podcast?

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    IndigoJack October 18, 2014 9:40 pm #

    Great show guys. Ah, the human centipede, the movie I made my girlfriend watch without telling her what it was about. Hate to break it to you guys though, a t-rex with minigun arms is already a thing: http://www.cnv.co.il/pics/previews/dh/2010/sep/large/AxeCop.jpg

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    winterman October 19, 2014 3:16 pm #

    Regarding the list. It’s not mine but I assume the haemonculi join the DSing blocks of warriors. They have fearless from coven PfP chart so it mitigates the morale issue you guys mention withthe warriors. Had a similar thought with my own list ideas.

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    nimrod451 October 20, 2014 11:21 am #

    I have one phrase..

    Human Centipede: Warhammer 40k Narrative Campaign..

    Also – Half Baked Is indeed funny..

    …and Great Show as always gentleman – look forward to the Splitfire Podcast as well.. Maybe someday i’ll get up enough guts to do my own too.

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    Loren October 21, 2014 1:38 pm #

    @ 21 mins in your show you said only the Monolith and some Dark eldar vehicles can deep strike. I would like to point out that the SM Land Speeders can deep strike also.

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