NOVA Open: so far, so good! UPDATED…Again!

NOVA 2014

Day 1

Team0Comp is representing well so far at the NOVA open, Frankie, Geoff and Reece are all so far undefeated at 3-0 going into the second day of the open. Geoff had to slog through two Tau players and barely squeaked by with a win by first blood in his third game. Frankie drew a double imperial knight, triple wraithknight army round 3, and managed to seize the initiative with Vect. A hot first turn of shooting gave him enough momentum to carry the game for a victory. Reece drew three tough opponents, Neil from the 11th company round 1 with 3 imperial knights and 3 riptides to kick it off. He drew a brutal centurion star round two commanded by a finalist of the invitational event, winning the game by 1\8″ on the final turn. His final game was against Kurt’s dual beast pack list, winning the game on the last turn after trailing the entire game in kill points until Vect took a battle cannon to the face and rolled a 1 and got splatted to allow the Astra Militarum to pull ahead.

It’s been a great event so far, and tomorrow promises even more intense 40k action!

Day 2

Well, not so good for old Team Zero Comp day two!

Frankie made the top bracket by beating former NOVA champ, Justin Cook who was playing Adamantine Lance with 3 Riptides (a lot of the east coasters are playing that list). The highlight was his Wraithknight kicking one of Justin’s Imperial Knights in the nuts, blowing it up, and having the explosion kill a nearby Riptide! In round 5, Frankie drew a young player with his worst matchup: Wave Serpent Spam Eldar. Venoms just don’t stand a chance. Plus, at NOVA they play that the serpent sheild has a 270 degree fire arc….ouch. Frankie went down for the count in that game. His next game was against Rob’s Drop Pod Marines, another rough match for Dark Eldar, and they tied primary, tied secondary and Frankie lost by 200 VPs. Frankie is sitting at 4-2

Geoff drew Tony Kopach’s Serpent Spam Eldar round 4, and lost soundly to ignores cover shooting. His round 5 was against a Dutch player with a Centurionstar round 5, and lost a narrow game by VPs. He drew an IG blob army round 6 with dual Death strikes! He barely won after getting his backfield wiped by the Death strikes in a close game. Geoff is sitting 4-2.

Reece drew a bad match round 4, Flying Circus Daemons. He set up for an alpha strike but got seized on and it went downhill from there, with his shots scattering onto his own troops, and Knights blowing up in a single round of combat and then scattering onto his own troops…again! It was comedy gold. He lost quickly. His round 5 was against Farsight Tau, and won narrowly with only two knight with 3 hil points left. Round 6 was against the younger Kopach brother Andy’s Centurionstar. Andy made a deployment error that Reece capitalized on to take the game. Reece is sitting at 5-1.

Post Event

Well, that’s a wrap! NOVA is over and what an event it was. We had a great time, and highly recommend the event. It is close to the airport, at a nice hotel, and in general, a great event. There were some minor details that we disagreed with, such as some rules calls, etc. but in all, NOVA is a worth the trip.

Frankie ended up 5-3 with his dark eldar, Geoff went 6-2 with Nids, and Reece went 5-3 with knights+Astra militrqum , losing his his last game in hilarious fashion as an Astra Militarum opponent with dual deathstrike launchers and red hot dice blew up all three knights in two turns! The highlight being when a death strike fired, rolled a 6 to pen and then a 6 for damage, blowing a knight up, and then scattering onto another knight, and D slapping it. Que hilarity!

Tony kopach won again, with serpant spam this go around. Congrats to him.

Now for the trip home, see you all tomorrow!

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91 Responses to “NOVA Open: so far, so good! UPDATED…Again!”

  1. Noah D August 29, 2014 7:13 pm #

    Wow great job guys! I hope you guys can keep it rolling on day two.

  2. Novastar August 29, 2014 7:45 pm #

    The price for failure is….Dutch oven by Keno Khan!

  3. Lackluster Batreps August 29, 2014 7:50 pm #

    good job guys

  4. CaptainA August 29, 2014 8:25 pm #

    Go get em!

  5. Simon August 29, 2014 11:08 pm #

    Those lists sound horrorific. I’m not sure how I feel about them.

    • Km August 30, 2014 4:08 am #

      It’s a massive competitive tournament, what do you expect??!? Haha The team0comp guys will have just as horrific armies, don’t worry

      • Reecius
        Reecius August 30, 2014 4:46 am #

        Actually Geoff and Frankie have normal lists, mine is pretty crazy but still tame compared to what we’ve seen so far, lol. East coasters definitely crank their lists up to 11.

        • Simon August 30, 2014 8:34 am #

          Thats because Geoff is a Nid man. And all Nid mans know how it do. You dig?

        • Km August 30, 2014 1:04 pm #

          Any chance u could put them up?

          • Reecius
            Reecius August 30, 2014 7:58 pm
            #

            Put what up?

          • Km August 31, 2014 1:24 am
            #

            The lists that u guys brought

          • white925 September 2, 2014 8:32 am
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            Yeah, we can do that =)

  6. Black Blow Fly August 30, 2014 1:28 am #

    Awesome !!! Keep it up !!!

  7. Gregorius42 August 30, 2014 1:53 am #

    Thanks for the update. Glad too hear that keeping out Lords of War kept these lists sane and balanced. LOL

    • Reecius
      Reecius August 30, 2014 4:43 am #

      I know, right? Haha, these lists are so crazy.

      • bigpig August 30, 2014 5:55 am #

        Knights should be Lords of War, or at least limited to one…. my 2 cents

        • novaStar August 30, 2014 1:43 pm #

          I think they need a 70-75 points decrease myself =)

          • Cuddles August 30, 2014 2:58 pm
            #

            yeah, let’s give super-heavies with a 4++/3++ re-roll and a D weapon a points decrease. Um, no.

          • bigpig August 30, 2014 3:01 pm
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            Only because you are running 3. Its ok though, I understand…. Some people need a crutch to have a shot 😉

          • Reecius
            Reecius August 30, 2014 7:57 pm
            #

            The funny thing though, is that three knight here is like, nothing. These lists are way worse.

        • Reecius
          Reecius August 30, 2014 8:01 pm #

          Perhaps. They’re pretty manageable but for some armies, they can he rough.

  8. Fagerlund August 30, 2014 5:28 am #

    As crazy as these lists sounds I’m glad to see such diversity in the madness! 🙂

  9. Chaplain Sam August 30, 2014 5:44 am #

    Nice job guys, keep it up.

  10. cavalier August 30, 2014 6:12 am #

    Two knights and 3 riptides in a single list? Man I can smell the cheese all the way here in North Carolina. Go get em Frontline!

    • Reecius
      Reecius August 30, 2014 8:01 pm #

      The cheese is as thick as possible, lol! No mercy at this event, for sure. Its fun though, and well managed.

      • Adam (Thediceabide.com) August 31, 2014 8:59 pm #

        But dude, no FW and no LoW, so it couldn’t be that cheesy, amirite?! It’s not like they allowed those game breaking Baneblades in to ruin the tournament. 🙂

  11. DCannon4Life August 30, 2014 6:38 am #

    Which NOVA mission options did you choose in each of your rounds? If ‘normal’ lists are successful versus IKnight+FiB (Fill in the Blank) Spam, my guess is that smart play and smart pre-game choices are the key, yes?

    • Reecius
      Reecius August 30, 2014 8:00 pm #

      Not really, everyone chose the same missions each time.

      • DCannon4Life August 31, 2014 4:36 am #

        Ah, that’s disappointing. I had some hope that their asymmetrical missions would be a legitimate balancing factor.

        • DarkLink August 31, 2014 8:48 am #

          People always talk big about how [insert key buzzword] missions will solve everything ever, and the powerful armies still win just like always. It’s hard to win missions if you’re just getting completely blown away and shot off objectives and the like.

  12. James Carmona
    kontraktkiller August 30, 2014 6:53 am #

    East coasters sound total fucking cheese dicks. Goes to show you that the better generals live on the west coast……The best coast.

    • Km August 30, 2014 1:05 pm #

      Or in britain, the better country haha

    • Kwodd August 31, 2014 6:23 pm #

      Yup!

  13. Joshua August 30, 2014 7:20 am #

    Keep it up guys. Sounds like a lot of fun. We are hoping to represent Team Zero Comp as good this weekend at Celesticon.

  14. Cuddles August 30, 2014 10:52 am #

    Before being introduced to 40k, I though “competitive” game play was synonymous with intelligence, strategy and experience. 3 Knights and 3 Riptides, not so much. I’m glad you guys beat that asshole.

    • Noah D August 30, 2014 2:01 pm #

      Unfortunately in the tournament scene a lot of people do go for it all with lists like this. It just makes it all the better when you see the guys who are winning these GTs not running these one sided lists.

    • Reecius
      Reecius August 30, 2014 7:59 pm #

      That was like the tip of the icebrug, the lists here are svavage. So crazy.

    • Josh August 31, 2014 6:47 am #

      To be fair, Neil from the 11th Company is not an ass-hole, but he does like bringing extreme lists.

      • Reecius
        Reecius August 31, 2014 6:54 am #

        Not at all, Neil is a great guy.

    • DarkLink August 31, 2014 8:50 am #

      Believe it or not, playing a powerful army does not inherently make you either an asshole nor incompetent. That’s an uncalled-for judgement that you bring to the table. If you’re going to insult people, hold off to make sure they actually deserve it first.

      • Cuddles August 31, 2014 11:51 am #

        I wasn’t really trying to insult the man, just revel in the fact that someone who brought a spammy list of the models they thought were the cheesiest just had their power-gaming dreams crushed. you’re wasting your breath trying to change my mind.

        • DarkLink September 1, 2014 11:17 am #

          I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make, actually. Are you saying that a bunch of crappy spammy players showed up and got beaten by “real” armies? Because Tony Kopach won with 5 Wave Serpents and a Wraithknight. From what you’ve actually said, it does sound very much like you’re trying to insult the sportsmanship and competence of anyone who brings a list that you perceive to be cheesy/spammy/insert whatever buzzword you want. Maybe you’re just not communicating your point well, but if you are, then I redirect you to my original comment. Don’t be a judgmental dick for the sake of being a judgemental dick.

          • Cuddles September 1, 2014 6:06 pm
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            No.

        • AbusePuppy September 1, 2014 5:09 pm #

          Well, considering you called him an asshole, you’re doing a really poor job of not insulting him. If you want people to regard you as someone with a point worth making, maybe tone down the personal attacks in the future.

        • Gordon September 1, 2014 10:00 pm #

          No to the insult being your intent and that you don’t think that playing a cheesy list automatically makes you an asshole? No, that you do intend to insult someone you’ve never met for the terrible, terrible crime of bringing a competitive list to a competitive event full of like-minded competitive players who came to compete and that you refuse to accept that this isn’t exactly classy no something a mature and reasonable adult would do? No, that you disagree that Frankie is the greatest 40k player in the universe? Use your words, man.

  15. bigpig August 30, 2014 3:03 pm #

    What’s Geoff running? Is be bringing out the Hierodule again?

    • Pascal Roggen August 30, 2014 3:37 pm #

      he can’t , no LOW’s 🙁

      • DCannon4Life August 30, 2014 4:19 pm #

        Hence the IKnight Spam.

        • Pascal Roggen August 30, 2014 7:37 pm #

          well, the Iknight spam isn’t being taken by Goeff and… you might well take a lance formation regardless of wether or not Lws are allowable 🙂

          • DCannon4Life August 31, 2014 4:42 am
            #

            Sorry, I left an incomplete thought as a response: Without LoWs allowed, IKnights are the next most powerful thing (given the Super Heavy Walker status and D attacks). So, there is an incentive to spam IKnights. I didn’t mean that Geoff was spamming IKnights, I was addressing the the ‘no LoW allowed’ part. 🙂

          • Adam (Thediceabide.com) August 31, 2014 9:02 pm
            #

            Unfortunately, IKnights really aren’t the bee’s knees, I love them, and I frequently play with them, but they’re not at all what they’re cracked up to be.

          • AbusePuppy September 1, 2014 5:11 pm
            #

            Knights appear in similar numbers whether LoWs are allowed or not, at least presuming that stuff like the C’tan and such aren’t permitted. LoWs rarely have the sort of weapons you want to use to kill a Knight, so I don’t really see why you would think they act as some sort of counter to them.

          • DCannon4Life September 2, 2014 3:40 am
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            @Abuse: I don’t think LoW are a counter so much as I think IKnights are the next thing going down the list. If LoW are neutered (no D ranged weapons), then they may not even be worth their points. D stomps are a thing and IKnights have them.

    • AbusePuppy September 1, 2014 5:12 pm #

      Very handy, thanks.

  16. frigobben August 31, 2014 6:16 am #

    Can we see your lists somewhere?

  17. N.I.B. August 31, 2014 1:24 pm #

    Live stream from the finals (Tony Kopach Serpent spam, winning) http://www.twitch.tv/torrentoffire

  18. MrCk August 31, 2014 3:11 pm #

    You said wave serpents get a 270 arc on SS like that’s not normal…i’m not an eldar player, but from my experience they always have a 270 arc…

    • DCannon4Life August 31, 2014 4:41 pm #

      The Serpent Shield, when used in weapon mode, is (reasonably) played as ‘fixed forward’ (45 degrees?), which gives it a limited field of fire. Where I play, I’ve never seen anyone even TRY to claim a 270 degree field of fire, nor have I. There isn’t even a vehicle-based argument (using the Wave Serpent model) to justify it.

    • DCannon4Life August 31, 2014 4:59 pm #

      Ok, this was bugging me. Page 104 of the Eldar Codex states, ‘Can deactivate shields to shoot forwards.’ There is no justification for claiming that they have a 270 degree firing arc. That’s just bad.

      • Adam
        Adam (Thediceabide.com) August 31, 2014 9:05 pm #

        If it’s not backward, it’s forward, right?

        • vonvilkee September 1, 2014 7:59 am #

          There is sideways, when a vehicle has front, SIDE, and rear armor. 🙂

          • Km September 1, 2014 11:14 am
            #

            I’ve always played it as 45 degrees…

          • TinBane September 1, 2014 7:24 pm
            #

            This kind of stuff makes me mad.

            http://imgur.com/HBppRwz

            Treat it as a hull mounted weapon – weapons point in a specific direction (usually measured along the barrel, we’ll let the Eldar off on the fact that only the old (pictured) model has a projection point. Especially as the rules say the hull mounted weapon is pointing forward. Therefore following the rules for hull mounted weapons, it is assumed to be able to track 45 degrees up, down, left, right. There you go, a 90 degree horizontal and vertical arc.

            Where does 270 degrees come from?

        • bigpig September 1, 2014 10:30 pm #

          Clearly says hull mounted weapon, which has its own set of rules and arc. Not sure where they are gettin 270

          • rexscarlet September 2, 2014 3:21 am
            #

            @TinBane
            Hull Mounted (there is a vehicle image in RB) 45 degree weapon arc (LoS) is horizontal and vertical which actually means 22.5 degree up and 22.5 degree down, 22.5 degree Left and 22.5 degree Right.
            .
            .
            ?270? yep, right there with you on the wtf aspect.

  19. Pascal Roggen August 31, 2014 5:49 pm #

    quick, no lords of war, they are far too powerful and unbalancing…. boy those eldar wave serpents need help:P

    If you are balancing things and there is a grey area…. why on earth make the best unit of it’s kind even better??

    • NIK2286 August 31, 2014 7:00 pm #

      Because it helped some of their cronies.

      • Cuddles August 31, 2014 7:44 pm #

        lol. Go figure.

    • Adam
      Adam (Thediceabide.com) August 31, 2014 9:03 pm #

      It’s not like Eldar did well anyhow. So who won?

      • RyanL August 31, 2014 9:27 pm #

        Final was Thomas Donslund (Eldar/DE – Beast Pack) vs Tony Kopach (Eldar – Serpent spam). Tony won but it was surprisingly close considering Thomas was in a bad place after failing to get Invis on 11 rolls on Telepathy. The final straws for Thomas were rolling snake-eyes on a 3″ or 4″ charge and a Farseer dying from Perils which could have turned the tide.

        • Charlie August 31, 2014 11:22 pm #

          Kopach’s list was good, but not as crazy when you look at it on paper. However, I will concede the 270′ arc of fire for a Wave Serpent is the most bizarre ruling I’ve seen in a long time. It doesn’t even make sense when you read the Serpent Shield and then look at the diagram in the main rulebook.

          Ghost Walk Matrix is huge in Kopach’s list when you factor in the amount of terrain NOVA utilizes.

          Autarch

          3 x 5 DA, Wave Serpent, t/l Scatterlaser, Cannon, GWM (I don’t know if he had Holofields on any tanks)

          2 x 5 FD, Wave Serpent, t/l Scatterlaser, Cannon, GWM

          2 x 6 (or 8) Swooping Hawks

          2 x 1 Nightspinners

          1 x 1 Wraithknight

          Also, I think some folks learned about the Adamantine Lance formation due to the BAO. I know Team Stomping Grounds and the 11th Company discussed that someone ran that formation with DA IC with Powerfield Generator at the BAO and wondered how it didn’t make it to the top table. Rerollable 4+ inv saves on 3 Imperial Knights; that is a fairly extreme concept.

          • Pascal Roggen September 1, 2014 4:20 am
            #

            well, they get stuck in a really small group and won’t do that much damage. also, even with 4+ rerolled, the odd stray pen that explodes can take out 4 hull points, also, once it’s down to one knight it won’t get a reroll.

            knights are fun but compared to wraith knights they fall pretty short

          • Novastar September 1, 2014 2:26 pm
            #

            Only the Ion shield is rerollable not the PFG save

  20. Archon-Kalafex August 31, 2014 10:01 pm #

    Oh yea Eldar didn’t do well at all did they… You should do some investigating before you make a statement about past events. Frankie got 8th so thats cool. Well represented were the Dark Eldar but honestly the cheese factory that was 1st and 2nd place, both Eldar, and both made me feel like they were misrepresenting Eldar with 2 of the most stereotypical tournament lists out there. Way to go originality! Not.

  21. Justin Cook September 1, 2014 1:49 am #

    Had a great time at this tournament, I hope I can make it to LVO in 2015!

    • Pascal Roggen September 1, 2014 4:22 am #

      Rematch bro!:P
      BA might even have a decent codex by then;P

      • Justin Cook September 1, 2014 6:56 am #

        I’m down, I can’t believe I somehow fit more giant robots into a 40k army than with O’vesa star, dem dirty imperial knights!

        • Tom September 2, 2014 1:30 pm #

          congrats on a great showing. Any way of watching the games that you know of. I must see how some of these list performed first hand.

  22. ChanceT September 1, 2014 6:56 am #

    Good meeting you guys again Reece, Frankie, and Geoff. And I can attest to the absurdity that was Reece’s game 7 against the death strikes. 3 lascannon shots and a death strike blew up 3 knights if I remember correctly. Also Reece having his fate sealed on a literal game of Rock Paper Scissors was hilarious.

  23. The Voice September 1, 2014 9:20 am #

    did you talk to matt “robbo” robinson while there? hes a good lad and my captain o captain…

  24. Greggles September 1, 2014 9:30 am #

    Was great meeting you all! I’m still sorting through the photos I took. Roughly 900!

    For anyone curious as to the size of the GT, here is a quick vid to show you how many tables are involved.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdlC_lI1wAM&list=UUnDcx-SPf3Cx9825w2cXqOw

    I also have a short little video of Reese’s bumble bee slamming into some opposing knights for knight on knight action. Want to make sure it’s ok to post that one though!
    -G

  25. iNcontroL September 1, 2014 1:12 pm #

    was a blast! I hope the boys do it justice in the podcast and discuss the good, bad and ugly. Mostly good but definitely some interesting things to contrast and compare!

  26. Tim Brown September 1, 2014 1:22 pm #

    I found it very interesting looking at various youtube vids that show the amount of LOS blocking terrain – huge tall walls in the center x 2 for example….I wonder how that fact affected the play of the team, and if the LVO will reflect IMO a welcome change to more dense terrain? NOVA seemed to up the ante a bit. ’round here, we’re stuck in 5th edition. 5 pieces of terrain nearly no LOS for our tournaments. They complain when I set up anything denser.

    • Tim Brown September 1, 2014 1:48 pm #

      LOS blocking, I meant….opps

  27. Dash2021 September 1, 2014 1:49 pm #

    Best thing I’ve heard so far: Guy with dual deathstrikes going deep into day 2. I love it when people bust the net-list mentality and do well.

    • Greggles September 1, 2014 2:17 pm #

      Marc Parker went 5-2 with an ork green tide list with big gun support. Was an absolute joy to see in action! (almost was 6-1, but by mere fractions)

    • iNcontroL September 1, 2014 2:50 pm #

      He was awesome. Had a really cool guard blob x2 to go along with it. I had a really narrow win vs him and he was the guy who blew up all of Reece’s knights in 2 turns lol

  28. ZeroWolf September 1, 2014 7:18 pm #

    Stories like these do nothing to excite me about trying out tournament play lol. Broken, douchey lists one after another.

    I’m glad that the guys had fun, though.

    • Cuddles September 1, 2014 7:41 pm #

      Exactly.

    • rexscarlet September 2, 2014 3:30 am #

      @ZeroWolf
      So, what “House Rules” (limits) does your group use? Please post them so the community can get together.
      .
      We sometimes play scenarios so hard set rule facts are secondary; D-Day, Alamo, 55 Days at Peking, etc., but those games are fewer and farther between, as most players want to play head to head, of which 40k is in a sad state at the moment.
      .
      Just look at all the rule book here;
      http://www.3plusplus.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=2926

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