Signals from the Frontline: Warhammer 40K and General Gaming News, Rumors, Tactics and Jokes

signals from the Frontline

Show Notes

2-18-2014

News

  • Big thanks to Greg from Beijing who dropped us off some gifts when he picked up his Mega Mats! Thanks Greg, I hope you enjoy using the mats!
  • More Toughest Girls in the Galaxy models coming out! Man I can’t wait for these. Remember, if you got in on the KickStarter, you can tell them you want to pick up your goodies at FLG!

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  • March 15th, FoB Qualifier at the Guild in Antioch!
  • Some awesome new stuff by DarkLands Miniatures. These are amazing minis. We do sell them at FLG when we can get them, it is sometimes hard to find them.

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  • Forge World shows off their new stuff and it looks great!

Rumors: The Rumor Section is gathered from the web and is not in any way information we receive from  any manufacturer nor is it necessarily accurate. This section of the podcast is intended for entertainment purposes only.

Rant Session

  •  LVO 40K Exit Poll Discussion

Tactics Corner

Rules Lawyer

List Review

This list is a take off of the 40k UK “Spyder Star”…

+++ Iron Git (2493pts) +++

+++ 2500pt Codex: Tau Empire, Necrons 6th Ed (2011) Roster (Allied Detachment, Primary Detachment)) +++

Selections:

Codex: Tau Empire (Allied Detachment) Selections:

+ HQ + (pts)

* Commander (pts)

(Independent Character, Supporting Fire, Very Bulky)

Command and Control Node, Crisis battlesuit, Missile pod, Multi-spectrum Sensor Suite, Puretide Engram Neurochip

+ Elites + (pts)

* XV104 Riptide (pts)

(Nova Reactor, Supporting Fire)

Ion accelerator, Riptide battlesuit, Riptide Shield Generator, Stimulant injector, Twin-linked smart missile system

+ Troops + (pts)

* Fire Warrior Team (pts)

(Supporting Fire)

11x Fire Warrior Shas’la with pulse rifle, Photon grenades

* Fire Warrior Shas’ui

Pulse rifle

+ Heavy Support + (pts)

* XV88 Broadside Team (pts)

(Extremely Bulky, Supporting Fire)

* Broadside Shas’ui

Broadside battlesuit, Twin-linked heavy rail rifle, Twin-linked smart missile system

* Broadside Shas’ui

Broadside battlesuit, Twin-linked heavy rail rifle, Twin-linked smart missile system

* Broadside Shas’ui

Broadside battlesuit, Twin-linked heavy rail rifle, Twin-linked smart missile system

Necrons 6th Ed (2011) (Primary Detachment) Selections:

+ HQ + (pts)

* Destroyer Lord (pts)

(Ever-Living, Independent Character, Preferred Enemy (Everything!), Reanimation Protocols)

Sempiternal Weave (*), Warscythe

* Nemesor Zahndrekh (pts)

(Adaptive Tactics, Counter Tactics, Ever-Living, Independent Character, Phased Reinforcements, Reanimation Protocols)

Phase Shifter (*), Resurrection Orb (*), Sempiternal Weave (*), Staff of Light

* Royal Court

* Harbinger of Eternity

(Ever-Living, Reanimation Protocols)

Aeonstave, Chronometron (*)

+ Troops + (pts)

* Necron Warriors (pts)

* 5x Necron Warrior

(Reanimation Protocols)

5x Gauss Flayer (Gauss Weapon)

* Night Scythe

(Deep Strike, Invasion Beams, Living Metal, Supersonic)

Twin-Linked Tesla Destructor (Arc, Tesla Weapon)

* Necron Warriors (pts)

* 5x Necron Warrior

(Reanimation Protocols)

5x Gauss Flayer (Gauss Weapon)

* Night Scythe

(Deep Strike, Invasion Beams, Living Metal, Supersonic)

Twin-Linked Tesla Destructor (Arc, Tesla Weapon)

* Necron Warriors (pts)

* Ghost Ark

(Living Metal, Quantum Shielding, Repair Barge)

2x Gauss Flayer Array (Gauss Weapon)

* 5x Necron Warrior

(Reanimation Protocols)

5x Gauss Flayer (Gauss Weapon)

* Necron Warriors (pts)

* Ghost Ark

(Living Metal, Quantum Shielding, Repair Barge)

2x Gauss Flayer Array (Gauss Weapon)

* 5x Necron Warrior

(Reanimation Protocols)

5x Gauss Flayer (Gauss Weapon)

+ Fast Attack + (pts)

* Canoptek Wraiths (pts)

Canoptek Wraith (Fearless, Phase Attacks, Phase Shifter, Wraithflight), Canoptek Wraith (Fearless, Phase Attacks, Phase Shifter, Wraithflight)

* Canoptek Wraith

(Fearless, Phase Attacks, Phase Shifter, Wraithflight)

Whip Coils (*)

* Canoptek Wraith

(Fearless, Phase Attacks, Phase Shifter, Wraithflight)

Whip Coils (*)

* Canoptek Wraith

(Fearless, Phase Attacks, Phase Shifter, Wraithflight)

Whip Coils (*)

* Canoptek Wraiths (pts)

Canoptek Wraith (Fearless, Phase Attacks, Phase Shifter, Wraithflight), Canoptek Wraith (Fearless, Phase Attacks, Phase Shifter, Wraithflight)

* Canoptek Wraith

(Fearless, Phase Attacks, Phase Shifter, Wraithflight)

Whip Coils (*)

* Canoptek Wraith

(Fearless, Phase Attacks, Phase Shifter, Wraithflight)

Whip Coils (*)

* Canoptek Wraith

(Fearless, Phase Attacks, Phase Shifter, Wraithflight)

Whip Coils (*)

+ Heavy Support + (pts)

* Annihilation Barge (pts)

(Living Metal, Quantum Shielding)

Tesla Cannon (Tesla Weapon), Twin-Linked Tesla Destructor (Arc, Tesla Weapon)

* Annihilation Barge (pts)

(Living Metal, Quantum Shielding)

Tesla Cannon (Tesla Weapon), Twin-Linked Tesla Destructor (Arc, Tesla Weapon)

* Canoptek Spyders (165pts)

* Canoptek Spyder

(Fearless)

Gloom Prism (*), Scarab Hive (*)

* Canoptek Spyder

(Fearless)

Scarab Hive (*)

* Canoptek Spyder

(Fearless)

Scarab Hive (*)

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28 Responses to “Signals from the Frontline: Warhammer 40K and General Gaming News, Rumors, Tactics and Jokes”

  1. Bassface7 February 18, 2014 6:03 am
    #

    2+/4+ is a 1 in 10 of failure, 2+/2+ is a 1 in 50 – it’s a huge nerf and much needed i think. Gaddarn defstars!

    • Adam
      Adam February 18, 2014 9:31 am
      #

      It’s 1:12 vs 1:36, but yeah.

    • Gordy February 18, 2014 9:55 am
      #

      1/9 and 1/36, actually.

      • Adam
        Adam February 18, 2014 10:19 am
        #

        1/6 followed by 1/2, multiply across, 1/12.

        • Reecius
          Reecius February 18, 2014 10:46 am
          #

          Yes.

          Chances of failure.

          4+/4+ = 1/4
          3+/3+ = 1/9
          2+/4+ = 1/12
          2+/3+ = 1/18
          2+/2+ = 1/36

        • Reecius
          Reecius February 18, 2014 11:51 am
          #

          Chances of failure:

          4+/4+ = 1/4
          3+/3+ = 1/9
          2+/4+ = 1/12
          2+/3+ = 1/18
          2+/2+ = 1/36

        • Gordy February 18, 2014 2:58 pm
          #

          Ooops, yeah

    • Adam
      Adam February 18, 2014 10:18 am
      #

      Great news about people figuring out that Escalation and Stronghold Assault aren’t bad!

      It’s kind of tricky saying 1/3 of your points for Super Heavies because some factions get a lot more viable options for under 583 points, but some other factions have 0-1 options at all under 583 points (only leaves the Lynx for Eldar, standard Tiger Shark for tau, nothing for CSM, etc.). 50% leaves a lot more options available (though still 13 points shy for a Lord of Battles), but opens up the possibility of a double turbo-laser warhound and the Vampire Hunter, both of which are more nasty to face than a Revenant.

      If your problem is still the Revenant, despite it being worthless against flyers, meltagun bait against pod marines (only takes 14 meltagun shots (not hits) through an entire game on average, one lucky sternguard squad and it’s toast), and can get locked in combat against FMC (this is a funny one to watch), then just ban that one, or specifically the double destroyer revenant, then people can still use their revenant, but just not the puslar variant (and while you’re at it, ban double turbo laser warhounds).

      I’m not suggesting unrestricted though, if anything because of the Imperial Reaver titan, because who wants to see that in 1750?!

      My only criticism about the event itself is Hammer and Anvil + Kill Points… It’s hard enough for combat armies in Hammer and Anvil as it is! Lets make that Dawn of War and make another Hammer and Anvil.

      My idea of a “40k Championship” is just playing 40k (all of it, the good, the bad and the ugly). If you want to take things out, then you’re playing a modified 40k. Maybe there can be a “40k for Kids” event for people who don’t want to use all the rules. 😀

      • Adam
        Adam February 18, 2014 10:19 am
        #

        weird, idk how this ended up as a comment to someone elses post… oh well.

      • Paul Corneluis February 18, 2014 11:09 am
        #

        I’m soooo with you here.

  2. 6thstreetAlan February 18, 2014 8:39 am
    #

    Any chance we could move to 1500 pts or 1850 pts????

    • Reecius
      Reecius February 18, 2014 10:35 am
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      I would love to go to 1500pts. We will see if the community accepts that. I think it could happen, but we sort of hit a sweet spot here at 1750 with 2.5 hours, most games finish.

  3. 6thstreetAlan February 18, 2014 8:45 am
    #

    Hey Raffle Tickets are cool but to be honest gamers are sooooo irresponsible. I looked around during the raffle and 90% of the people are not even looking or holding tickets.

    I wonder if there is a electronic system that could randomize and do the pull itself. Then you could assign them electronically and have it up on a projector and live screen….

    Wait this is too much work screw it just stick to the tickets and screw the people that loose them…… me basically 🙂

    • Reecius
      Reecius February 18, 2014 10:35 am
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      Lol!

  4. Hotsauceman1 February 18, 2014 9:04 am
    #

    I do not wish battle Brothers to be banned. Besides, does a Buffmander with Devastators really that bad?And it wont cause the big problem If people wnted formations in here is what I would say
    They take up your FOC Charts and Ally position. Cool you want the Tau formation? Sure but the broadsides and Riptides take up space.
    If that is not good then I say that Formation units can never be scoring.

    • Gordy February 18, 2014 9:59 am
      #

      Frankly, I don’t think I’ve ever seen an army with Battle Brothers that wasn’t taken for douchebag WAACiness. The vast majority seems to be Coteaz randomly thrown into an Imperial army, or a Tau commander with Riptide and Boadsides with Space Marines or Eldar for kicks, or two Rune Priests on bikes attached to a Chapter Master command squad, or the Baron and 5 Warriors in a Venom in otherwise pure Eldar.

      Without Battle Brothers, you can still ally, and you can still take pretty powerful combos, but there’s very little to exploit.

    • Reecius
      Reecius February 18, 2014 10:36 am
      #

      Thanks for the input, Hot Sizzle. I think it’s less the stupid Buffmander with Devs than it is him in general. The guys is flat out too good.

  5. CptHygelac February 18, 2014 9:35 am
    #

    I looked up the Torrent of Fire Invitational. It does look like Geoff is playing a deathstar list in the first round. He’s up against a Centurion-Star with the Tigurius and 3 Grav-Cannoned Centurions (and they’re Iron Hands tactics). Though he also has some Legion of the Damned in there for some reason. Just something I thought I’d point out.

    • Reecius
      Reecius February 18, 2014 10:38 am
      #

      Thanks for the heads up. And yeah, holy crap, I am not sad I am missing this one! I love Chip and ToF, but playing against 5 deathstars lists sounds about as much fun as slapping my nuts with a paddle 5 times in a row.

      If you brought a deathstar killing list it would be fun but going in blind that isn’t possible.

  6. Jason Brown February 18, 2014 10:05 am
    #

    How ’bout let Nids ally with themselves?

    • scousematt February 18, 2014 10:31 am
      #

      I’m a Nid player so I’m biased but I can’t imagine too many complaints if this became a tournament house rule!

      • Reecius
        Reecius February 18, 2014 10:47 am
        #

        Formations will kind of do this.

        • Jason Brown February 18, 2014 11:20 am
          #

          Yes and no, to get an extra HQ I hav to take five squishie kill points, plus I dont get to choose my HQ or others. I dont have the flexability other armies do. Plus they will continue to add formations to all the armies. Why cant nids ally with themselves? I dont know but I hardly see a problem with allow them to ally with themselves.

          I know its like supercharging an already over the top army,but hell why not.

          • Adam
            Adam February 18, 2014 2:17 pm
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            I think Reece intends to allow the most without making up rules that will not be seen outside of his own tournaments. Allowing Dataslates isn’t huge as by the rules, they’re already allowed, but making up a new rule for one specific faction makes it harder to practice with that faction, as you wont be able to do that in other tournaments or possibly at your FLGS.

          • Reecius
            Reecius February 18, 2014 2:36 pm
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            Yeah, I agree, but we have to take things one step at a time. I would like for this to occur, but, we may get a Nid supplement soon.

  7. Chuck February 18, 2014 3:38 pm
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    I think the reason so many of the poll results changed is just the timing. The pre-LVO poll was right before the tournament and would be drastically changing the rules / meta with only a month or two before the tournament when people were in the middle of preparing their armies.

    Now, with the exit poll, it’s more about what we would like to see in the next LVO, and people for the most part seem to be pretty open to changes in the game. The big thing is making sure that the tournament rules are known well in advance so people can prepare.

    • Paul Corneluis February 18, 2014 6:38 pm
      #

      Very good point here.

  8. novaStar February 18, 2014 10:15 pm
    #

    More important, how about a 30k tournament??