Signals from the Frontline #619: Wrath and Rapture on the Way, and How Our 40k Lists are Changing

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Show Notes

Date: 12-12-18

Intro

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News

  • Wrath and Rapture on the way! This is going to be a very exciting release as some of these models have either never existed or haven’t been updated in ages!

  • We have a big LVO housekeeping update on the way. We’ve been working on a lot of different ways to make the tournament experience more enjoyable and smooth, and we’ve just about got all the pieces in place. We’re hoping to be able to roll it all out by Friday of this week! If you haven’t gotten your LVO tickets, do so soon.

Upcoming ITC Events

Upcoming 40k ITC Events

Upcoming AoS ITC Events

40k ITC Top 10

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Rank First Name Last Name Points Events
1 Nick Nanavati 755.16 5 of 5
2 Mike Porter 744.54 5 of 5
3 Trent Northington 699.34 5 of 5
4 Matt Root 694.28 5 of 5
5 Nick Rose 675.67 5 of 5
6 ANDREW GONYO 654.79 5 of 5
7 Brandon Grant 653.36 5 of 5
8 Joshua Death 651.29 5 of 5
9 Archon Skari 650.81 5 of 5
10 Steven Pampreen 638.86 5 of 5

40k ITC Hobby Track Top 10

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Rank First Name Last Name Points Events
1 Matthew Bodnarchuk 500.91 5 of 5
2 Scott Rumple 444.42 4 of 5
3 Michael Ralston 441.12 4 of 5
4 James Kelling 431.04 4 of 5
5 Lou Rollins 422.14 4 of 5
6 Michael Genoni 403.04 4 of 5
7 Micah Merkley 390.64 4 of 5
8 David Danuser 381.96 5 of 5
9 Joshua Death 379.85 4 of 5
10 Antonio Cedeno 357.1 5 of 5

AoS ITC Top 10

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Rank First Name Last Name Points Events
1 Joe Krier 531.97 5 of 5
2 Jeremy Veysseire 474.46 4 of 5
3 Matthew Pashby 448.34 4 of 5
4 James Thomas 446.05 4 of 5
5 Bill Souza 442.25 4 of 5
6 Mathew Jones 439.17 4 of 5
7 Joshua Harvey 427.39 4 of 5
8 Alexander Gonzalez 425.13 4 of 5
9 Steven Hyche 419.67 4 of 5
10 Ken Eubanks 417.31 4 of 5

AoS ITC Hobby Track Top 10

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Rank First Name Last Name Points Events
1 Sid Singh 298.4 3 of 5
2 Philip Verduzco 270.45 3 of 5
3 Josh Lara 260.24 3 of 5
4 Ben Nelson 239.3 3 of 5
5 Joseph Halfacre 173.36 2 of 5
6 Jon Christenson 161.9 2 of 5
7 Frank DeLoach 158.62 2 of 5
8 Scott Reed 155.07 2 of 5
9 Joshua Harvey 150.5 2 of 5
10 Josh Greenfield 124.35 2 of 5

Shadespire ITC Top 10

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Rank First Name Last Name Points Events
1 Mike Corse 333.98 3 of 5
2 Andrew Everhart 333.63 3 of 5
3 Adam Brazzell 332.58 3 of 5
4 Brandon Ulick 331.53 3 of 5
5 Matt Everhart 330.9 3 of 5
6 Tony Field 329.89 3 of 5
7 Michael Rundles 329.17 3 of 5
8 Britt Davis 317.72 3 of 5
9 Sean Ratner 303.71 3 of 5
10 Mike Melody 303.66 3 of 5

Tactics Corner

  • Here’s how CA and Vigilus are impacting our lists!
Super Heavy Detachment Cawl’s Wrath Ion Bulwark CP 3
Knight Castellan 2x Twin Siegebreaker (70) Volcano Lance (0) 2x Twin Meltagun (0) 2x Shieldbreaker Missile (24) Plasma Decimate (0) 604
Armiger Warglaive Reaper Chain-Cleaver, Thermal Spear, Heavy Stubber (2) 162
Armiger Warglaive Reaper Chain-Cleaver, Thermal Spear, Heavy Stubber (2) 162
928
Catachan Battalion CP 5
Commissar Yarrik 100
Company Commander Laspistol (0) 30
Infantry Squad 8x Lasgun (0), 1x Flamer (6), 1x Laspistol (0), 1x Chainsword (0) 46
Infantry Squad 8x Lasgun (0), 1x Flamer (6), 1x Laspistol (0), 1x Chainsword (0) 46
Infantry Squad 8x Lasgun (0), 1x Flamer (6), 1x Laspistol (0), 1x Chainsword (0) 46
Infantry Squad 8x Lasgun (0), 1x Flamer (6), 1x Laspistol (0), 1x Chainsword (0) 46
Chimera Heavy Flamer x2 (28) 88
Chimera Heavy Flamer x2 (28) 88
Chimera Heavy Flamer x2 (28) 88
Chimera Heavy Flamer x2 (28) 88
Heavy Weapon Squad 3x Mortar (15) 33
Heavy Weapon Squad 3x Mortar (15) 33
732
Catachan Spearhead Detachment CP 1
Company Commander Laspistol (0) 30
Wyvern Heavy Bolter (8) 103
Hydra Heavy Bolter (8) 93
Basilisk Heavy Bolter (8) 108
334
Unit Force Org Cost # Total Weapons Cost # Total Notes
Battallion Iyanden Command Points 5
Spiritseer HQ 65 1 65 0
Farseer Skyrunner HQ 130 1 130 Twin Shruiken Catapult 2 1 2 Psytronome
Storm Guardians Troops 6 8 48 0
Storm Guardians Troops 6 8 48 0
Guardian Deffenders Troops 8 20 160 Shuriken Cannon 10 2 20
Heavy Weapon Platform 5 2 10
Wraithblades Elites 29 8 232 Ghostswords 4 8 32
Wraithguard Elites 23 10 230 D-Scythes 20 10 200
Spearhead Iyanden Command Points 1
Warlock Skyrunner HQ 65 1 65 Twin Shruiken Catapult 2 1 2
Wraithlord Heavy 85 1 85 Shuriken Cannon 10 2 20
Wraithlord Heavy 85 1 85 Shuriken Cannon 10 2 20
Wraithlord Heavy 85 1 85 Shuriken Cannon 10 2 20
Super Heavy Aux Iyanden Command Points 0
Wraithknight LoW 315 1 315 Heavy Wraith Cannons 50 2 100
0 Star Cannon 13 2 26
Totals 61 1548 452 2000
Command Points: 9 Detachments: 3

Completed Commissions

  • All of these lovely models were painted by the FLG Paint Studio! We got this great letter from a customer about a Tournament Standard commission they recently got done with us!

I wanted to let you know that I got the cultists last week and I’m really happy with them. They look great. Since it was your bottom tier painting level I thought I might need to do some additional work on them, but they already look better than what I can do on my own. So I just need to do the bases, thanks again!

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7 Responses to “Signals from the Frontline #619: Wrath and Rapture on the Way, and How Our 40k Lists are Changing”

  1. rvd1ofakind December 13, 2018 8:37 am #

    Fistellans are actually pretty good now. Not a lot of people can dislodge 4-6 T7 6W 1+ in combat. Are they worth all that CP, pts and Lucius – questionable, but that’s acceptable to me.

    Now fix ruststalkers :p
    They’re probably the only unaccceptable unit in the book now,

    • Reecius
      Reecius December 13, 2018 10:31 am #

      Hahaha, never thought I’d live to see the day….

  2. Danny McDevitt December 14, 2018 5:02 pm #

    Man, just listened – the insanity of people’s negative reactions to CA is laughable. For real. While I get people being disappointed that their favorite unit wasn’t touched, the amount of stuff that dropped/changed across the board…why wouldn’t people want more options or even to play against different stuff? I don’t get it.

    • Reecius
      Reecius December 14, 2018 7:39 pm #

      Yeah, it is a bit silly. This book is almost entirely positive for everyone. You can find things to not like if you’re trying to but that’s about it.

  3. Ghostvalley December 14, 2018 7:59 pm #

    My biggest issue with chapter aprroved is that I never wrote down all my meta busting tournament winning list ideas that were 150 pts over with the old numbers and now when I try to make new meta busting tournament lists with the new numbers from 2018 CA, my lists are all 150 points over.

    Can’t GW fix their damn game?

    Mine is the face of true suffering. Pity me for I was once like all of you.

    • Reecius
      Reecius December 14, 2018 8:45 pm #

      lolol, well played, sir!

  4. Nick Wenker December 15, 2018 10:10 am #

    I thought overall CA was a big success and appreciated GW and the playtesters putting all the work into making the game better. That said, there were a couple of really ugly marks on this CA that stood out to me as big misses:

    – Plague Drone increase by 6 points is way too much and totally removes any desire for me to put my 9 beautifully painted models on the table. Especially combined with a big 20-point jump on Scrivener. I could’ve understood 1-3 points but this was too much. It’s almost like they are trying to make Plague Drones worse to make Fiends and Bloodcrushers seem better instead of just lowering the points on those models even more.

    – Cultist jump to 5 points wasn’t the right solution, as mentioned by the playtesters on Chapter Tactics. Limiting unit size to 30 would have been great.

    – Astra Militarum infantry remaining at 4 points despite their popularity for CPs and screens is frustrating…they can get orders and have a 5+ save instead of a 6+ save, but now they are cheaper than Cultists. Sigh.

    – Castellans are still rough but I’m reserving judgment for now to see how CA lands.

    – Tzeentch Daemon points drops were helpful but should have been sightly more aggressive.

    – I still hate Dark Reapers but I admit I am not sure how to fix Ynarri Dark Reapers who by themselves make a lot of other big models in other armies almost irrelevant.

    – I am extremely frustrated at the lack of realistic points costs for Forge World Daemon units, especially the Daemon Lords. In an era where a lot of factions have super heavies that will see play, it’s frustrating that a year ago FW went back to their incredibly doofy “Chaos fluffy numbers” made-up points for 3 of the Daemon Lords and made Aetos unplayable at 1500 points (even though Taunar just dropped a ton?). The Daemon Lords are even worse now that 1) you can’t Warp Surge them anymore and 2) you can’t deep strike them turn 1 anymore.

    – The “no more wobbly model when assaulting melee into upper floors” rule is still idiotic. Hooray wide stance immunity to assault 🙁

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