Chapter Tactics #49: Chapter Approved Review and It’s Impact on Every 40k Faction

Chapter Tactics is a 40k podcast which focuses on promoting better tactical play and situational awareness across all variations of the game. Today PeteyPab and Abusepuppy review the new Chapter Approved book, and analyze it’s impact on each faction in 40k.

Show Notes:

  • PeteyPab was interviewed on the Flying Monkeys Podcast! Check it out, and check out their podcast for some R-Rated good old fashioned 40k talk.
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  • Chapter Tactics is back! With Weekly episodes and a lot of tactical insight, this is your place for all things 40k in 8th edition.
  • Check out the last episode of Chapter Tactics here. Or, click here for a link to a full archive of all of my episodes.
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Aspiring 40k analyst, tournament reporter and Ultramarines enthusiast, Petey Pab only seeks to gather more knowledge about the game of 40k and share it with as many people as he can in order to unite both hobbyists and gamers. We are, after all, two sides of the same coin.

16 Responses to “Chapter Tactics #49: Chapter Approved Review and It’s Impact on Every 40k Faction”

  1. Shas’O December 11, 2017 9:20 am #

    Why would the sisters deny stratagem encourage folks to play pure sisters? Why not just a small detachment in a soup list?

    Also, can a gemini take the relic? If so, the relic is great!

    • Petey Pab
      Petey Pab December 11, 2017 4:17 pm #

      The idea is that the more units you have covering the board, the more coverage of denial for the stratagem.

      A cullexus assassin can only be in one place, but it’s hard to avoid an entire army.

      That one stratagem alone can basically shut out an opponent’s key psychic phase plans. Especially if they like to one or two key powers. It can throw off smite counts, it can prevent alpha strikes.

  2. Shas’O December 11, 2017 10:13 am #

    Also, mob up is awesome. Combining 10 or more with 10 or less means you can combine a 30 boy unit with 2 10 boy units and then da jump 50 boyz!

    And great to have you on the podcast, Abusepuppy. I hope you’ll be around for more 🙂

  3. Ujayim December 11, 2017 10:58 am #

    Voice fits the posting style pretty perfectly. Don’t see/hear that too often. Neat.

    • Petey Pab
      Petey Pab December 11, 2017 4:15 pm #

      I know, right?

  4. TJ Atwell December 11, 2017 4:39 pm #

    Good episode, but what sealed the deal for me was the guest’s incredible voice. I think he needs to be a permanent CO-host!

  5. rvd1ofakind December 12, 2017 1:54 am #

    30 Shoota boys: 60 shots. 10 6s hits. 3.3 hits with the stratagem… still has to wound and so on…
    15 Lootas: 45 shots(if you roll 3 shots each). 7.5 6s hits. 2.5 hits with stratagem
    12 bikers: 84 shots, 14 6s hits. 4.6 hits with stratagem.

    Hm…
    or

    As most armies have: +1 to hit for 1CP
    30 Shoota boys: 60 shots. +10 bonus hits instead of 3.3
    15 Lootas: 45 shots(if you roll 3 shots each). +7.5 shots instead of 2.5
    12 bikers: 84 shots, +14 shots. 4.6 hits with stratagem.

    Which is why this stratagem feels like a waste of space. Right now the re-roll 1 die stratagem feels more useful when rolling for damage/wound.

    Also I don’t know what you mean FAQd? The rule is the same as Death To The False Emperor. You just roll another to hit.

    • rvd1ofakind December 12, 2017 1:56 am #

      no edit function 🙁

      As most armies have: +1 to hit for 1CP
      30 Shoota boys: 60 shots. +10 bonus HITS instead of 3.3 HITS
      15 Lootas: 45 shots(if you roll 3 shots each). +7.5 HITS instead of 2.5 HITS
      12 bikers: 84 shots, +14 HITS instead of 4.6 HITS

    • abusepuppy December 12, 2017 7:25 am #

      >As most armies have: +1 to hit for 1CP

      No they don’t. Eldar don’t, CSM don’t, SM don’t, Tyranids don’t, Guard… have a specialized version? I think they and AdMech are the only ones who do.

      >Also I don’t know what you mean FAQd?

      There is some contention about what “attack” means in reference to this sort of thing, which is also a problem with the Cadre Fireblade. As stated on the show, I strongly believe that “attack” is equivalent to “shot” in this case- so you make a single additional die roll for the weapon. However, Pablo and other people interpret it as “sequence of shots,” i.e. making a number of shots with the weapon equal to its normal shooting profile.

      The issue has been discussed to death with no real resolution to be found and there are pretty significant contingents of players on both sides, so I feel like it is one of the things that most needs to be FAQed at this point.

      • rvd1ofakind December 13, 2017 8:26 am #

        Well, I mean a precedant for +1 to hit = 1 CP. My bad.

        And I very strongly feel your interpretation of the rule is correct. Though that’d make the stratagem quite a bit better. How would that even work with lootas. Shoot D3, count the 6s, shoot that amount of D3s? That’s just weird.

  6. Adam Vollrath December 12, 2017 2:39 am #

    abusepuppy is a very good poster

  7. Icoop December 12, 2017 2:46 pm #

    Good episode, good coverage. Abuse Puppies mic is amazing. Loud and clear but not Gain-y. His observations are as agreeable as ever.

  8. Dakkath December 12, 2017 7:55 pm #

    Great work on this one, PP and AP.

  9. Silas7 December 12, 2017 11:52 pm #

    Anyone know the intro song?

    • Petey Pab
      Petey Pab December 13, 2017 3:05 pm #

      Justin Mahar – The Grind

      He’s a great classic techno artist and a lot of his works are for open use to the public.

  10. Michael Corr
    Michael Corr December 20, 2017 3:59 am #

    Sad my Deathwatch didn’t get more. Points reductions are a must for them, I think. They cost the same as Primaris Marines, but with half the number of wounds. I love my army, but they are pretty unplayable in 8th edition, at least competitively.

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