Top Tactics for Next Year’s Las Vegas Open

Over at the Warhammer-Community page, they posted up a great article with advice from former champions and judges on how to have the best time and perform well! Check it out, here.

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27 Responses to “Top Tactics for Next Year’s Las Vegas Open”

  1. Dbiesto November 29, 2017 1:15 pm #

    Cant make it to LVO but Im predicting AL spending all their CP turn 1 with the berserkers, cultists, exalted champion and dark apostle. As long as they are the same legion, no marks required to reroll all hits and wounds. Also since they are characters, summon in some daemons!

    Giving both of mine slaanesh because I also use a herald on steed and AL slaanesh prince to make them str 4 and up to 91 attacks rerolling 1s all slaanesh units woth 6” of the prince.

    A mix of nurgle objective holders, elite khorne units, tzeentch obliterators with changeling, and slaanesh cultists with daemon summoning points all up in your face turn 1 could give the top shooty Imperium players some serious problems. Cultists mobs overruning objectives also with sheer numbers lol.

    Updated Xenos could pull an upset and make up over 1/2 of the top tier and have potential to win it.

  2. Chandler November 29, 2017 1:51 pm #

    Calling it now. Tyranids win LVO this year.

    • Jural November 29, 2017 3:32 pm #

      I would wait to see what synergies Chaos Daemons bring chaos soup, lol!

      But if it isn’t a soup list, I like your prediction.

    • KundaliniHero November 29, 2017 4:30 pm #

      I would like to see Tyranids win, I am fairly convinced they are a top tier army as it stands but Blood Angels do have me worried a bit.

      This of course begs the power creep question as we have still quite a few more codexes to go, not to mention whispers of more primarchs. I have a distinct feeling that GW may have blown their chapter approved load a little early…

      • Reecius
        Reecius November 29, 2017 4:41 pm #

        I think Tyranids can do it, too. They are so powerful.

        • Jural November 29, 2017 6:23 pm #

          But can you build a TAC list that deals with the extremes of the meta… and what insanity will daemons bring, lol!

          Fun time fir the hobby- before Tau drops and makes all other armies obsolete 😉

          • Shas’O November 30, 2017 7:19 am
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            We can only hope – FOR THE GREATER GOOD!!

            But seriously, I agree that this is prime 40k time. The last two codexes were excellent. Powerful but balanced and with many different build types. Add in the work the ITC guys do to make fun, balanced missions and we have the golden age of Warhammer.

          • Reecius
            Reecius November 30, 2017 11:48 am
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            With the new Character rules, T’au can certainly get in there with a puncher’s chance, lol!

    • Reecius
      Reecius November 29, 2017 5:11 pm #

      No bullshit, I honestly think they have all the tools you need.

      • Ujayim November 29, 2017 5:46 pm #

        They’re the perfect example of a codex. The balance is wonderful, the power is strong but not too strong, and the utility is absolutely everywhere.

      • Chandler November 30, 2017 6:24 am #

        They absolutely do.

        Cheap screen bodies – Check
        Hard hitting close combat units that are also fast – Check
        Great shooting – Check
        Mobility – Check
        Tools to deal with Psykers – Check

        Nids have answers for anything. A veritable toolbox of options to choose from in the codex. They are instantly top tier IMO.

        • rvd1ofakind November 30, 2017 6:32 am #

          Jack of all trades, master of none. Those actually do not win that often. There’s usually one “trade” that is more important. In this case, it’s shooting.

          • Ytook November 30, 2017 6:50 am
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            Going all in on one thing can leave you open to a good counter list though, and in a high stakes, multiple round tournament that’s not unlikely.

            In fact I’d argue that Nids are the counter shoot heavy meta army right now, with easy access to -1 to hit, speed, the ability to be surprisingly tough and ample ways to start off the board I think they could surprise some of the current ‘standard’ lists.

            Assuming the meta doesn’t shift by the LVO of course, if Blood Angels and Daemons make a splash, fast hard hitting combat could become the norm.

            (All just my conjecture obviously, won’t see who’s right and wrong till the event 🙂 )

          • rvd1ofakind November 30, 2017 7:20 am
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            I’d so love for that to happen. Make combat great again!

          • KundaliniHero November 30, 2017 11:14 am
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            Jack of all trades?

            Im not sure that metaphor captures what the Nids are capable of. The power of the dex isnt obvious – the power is in the strategic flexibility and synergy of units and abilities working in conjunction with one another and how and when they are applied. Think of it like nitrous oxide on a sports car, it’s not always on but if you hit it at the right time…the results can be devastating for your opponents. With the right General the nids have all the tools to win.

    • Skywatcher Adept November 30, 2017 1:14 am #

      Why doesn’t anyone call Deathwatch for the win? They got such gamebraking, OP stratagems in Chapter Approved…

  3. rvd1ofakind November 29, 2017 7:52 pm #

    My predictions:
    We won’t see a non-soup list in top 8(ignoring armies without access to soup).
    The meta will still be spam of a bunch of tiny dudes and anti-horde weapons.
    The only successful superheavy lists will be 3 superheavy lists.
    Pure AdMech still won’t make top 50. Soup Admech won’t make top 24.
    And the most outragious prediction: Actual Chaos Daemon armies will still be unplayable. It’s a blind guess because we don’t know anything about the codex.

    I might be wrong on some or even all of them. We’ll see.

    • rvd1ofakind November 29, 2017 7:52 pm #

      Primarchs are an exception to the superheavy prediction.

    • Dbiesto November 29, 2017 8:53 pm #

      If daemon summoned troops could be obsec that will definitively change the game alone. Keep my fingers crossed.

  4. GeekmasterK November 30, 2017 8:46 am #

    My prediction: an army with a codex will win. An army only running things from an index will not make top 8.

    And yes, I made my prediction purposefully generic, so it’s less likely that I’ll be wrong. 😛

    • black mage November 30, 2017 10:48 am #

      im not sure if an army w/o a codex cant win, i think about 3 superhaevy (knight+morty+magnus) and some random stuff, like brimstones+PD from demon index, they have the tools to win also without a codex

      • GeekmasterK November 30, 2017 5:29 pm #

        Good point. I always forget about the Knight, Mangus, Mortarion lists because I never see that combo in my area. Although Morty does have a codex, and the daemon codex is coming in January, likely before LVO. So technically, it’s not a pure index list. There is some codex stuff in there. I was mostly talking about pure index when I said I didn’t think they would make the top 8. A mix of index and codex could do it though.

  5. black mage November 30, 2017 10:49 am #

    i think 3 superheavy can win also without codex, knight+morty+magnus and demonn battalion with 2 Dp’s have the tool to win

  6. Requizen
    Requizen November 30, 2017 12:14 pm #

    Looking forward to the AoS event. I think it’s gonna be quite close, can’t wait to see what people bring to the table.

    • Ytook November 30, 2017 12:55 pm #

      Yeah that’ll be super interesting. Particularly as from what I’ve seen AoS competitive meta is very up in the air at the moment (though I could just be missing things 😛 )

      • Requizen
        Requizen November 30, 2017 1:45 pm #

        It is a bit. There are armies that are consistently in the top spots – Tzeentch, Stormcast, Kharadron, Fyreslayers, Seraphon, right now. But honestly there are other armies that have been breaking in with regularity, especially in the hands of good players. I’ve seen some great Mortal Chaos forces, Sylvaneth is still popping up, Death still has some teeth, Ironjawz and Khorne have some really strong matchups, Skaven are quite good in the right hands, etc. I’m really expecting to see a great variety!

        • Ytook November 30, 2017 3:10 pm #

          Awesome, good to hear. Really looking forward to some AoS releases in the new year to.

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