Chapter Tactics #38: My HoW Tournament List and Chaos Index Review

Chapter Tactics is a 40k podcast which focuses on promoting better tactical play and situational awareness across all variations of the game. Today PeteyPab and The Ego Queen go over the Chaos Index (basically just the Daemons) and Pablo goes over his Hammer of Wrath Tournament list! 

Show Notes:

  • Click here for a link to the NOVA Invitational Bracket and to submit your own predictions!
  • Click here for my Hammer of Wrath List
  • If you like the Ego Queen and want to see more of her work click here!
  • Click here if you want to see some of the facebook livestreams of the Hammer of Wrath!
  • Chapter Tactics is back! With Weekly episodes and a lot of tactical insight, this is your place for all things 40k in 8th edition.
  • Check out the last episode of Chapter Tactics here. Or, click here for a link to a full archive of all of my episodes.
  • Want more tactical information about the new edition? Check out our 8th Edition article archive to help get a leg up on the competition!


Iron Halo

Have you purchased your Iron Halo tickets yet? If you haven’t go buy them now and come say hi to me! I plan on Facebook livestreaming games, and covering the entire event. Email me if you would like to be on the stream. 

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Please do not send an army list in a format such as Army Builder, send them in an easy to read, typed format. Thanks!


About Petey Pab

Aspiring 40k analyst, tournament reporter and Ultramarines enthusiast, Petey Pab only seeks to gather more knowledge about the game of 40k and share it with as many people as he can in order to unite both hobbyists and gamers. We are, after all, two sides of the same coin.

16 Responses to “Chapter Tactics #38: My HoW Tournament List and Chaos Index Review”

  1. nc August 12, 2017 8:30 am #

    NOva brakcets bring you to the ETC pairings. Doh!

    • Petey Pab August 12, 2017 3:35 pm #

      Fixed! Thanks man.

  2. nc August 12, 2017 8:31 am #

    HoW list is BAO. DOH!

  3. Ujayim August 12, 2017 10:51 am #

    Kairos is 15 less points than Magnus.

    Let that sink in.

    Also, Blue Scribes are a very funny counter to Brimstones, because once you steal their smite they literally do nothing.

    • Ujayim August 12, 2017 10:53 am #

      Also, Tzeentch PLAYERS are in a really rough spot. I say this with Bias and acknowledge that.

      None of us asked for Brimstones, etc, yet simply because they exist it’s caused a huge uproar and demand for an overhaul, etc.

      I like the rest of Tzeentch, I just hate that my whole army is defined by a unit less than a year old.

    • Ujayim August 12, 2017 11:04 am #

      To clarify, clearly the army is good. It works. I mean that the perception of horrors and horrors alone means that if the beast GW created is over corrected too hard even further, then we basically end up unable to run our only troop option because it’s turned into shit.

      Idk. Horrors need to be fixed. I haven’t seen a fix that doesn’t make me cringe, though.

      End rant.

    • Luke August 13, 2017 4:53 pm #

      Yeah Fatey needs a points reduction. Also Magnus is probably too cheap.

      Brims aren’t there for their offense any more. They’re cheap CP and ridiculously tough to kill for the points

      • rvd1ofakind August 13, 2017 10:20 pm #

        I think Magnus is about right. He can still die in 1 turn easily

    • Threllen August 14, 2017 5:54 am #

      Well their smite is terrible now so it’s not much of a loss. And if you’ve got blue scribes close enough to them to steal it he’s probably dead anyways.

      Brims are much, much better in the codex now. Great durable, cheap bodies still but their have almost 0 offense. 1/3 of the time (not counting deny) they can cause 1 wound to the closest unit. Point-for-point that is terrible damage output.

  4. rvd1ofakind August 12, 2017 11:30 am #

    Can anyone PLEASE answer this complex charge question that occurs to us way too often
    Which is the correct thing: Purple, Red or Green in either of the options:
    A) Green is infantry
    B) Green is infantry with FLY

    I don’t think Purple is the correct option because of the FAQ:
    Q: What happens when an Infantry model cannot completely end its move on a floor of ruins when attempting to scale the walls?
    A: If an Infantry model is unable to complete a move to a stable position, use the Wobbly Model Syndrome guidelines in the core rules to identify with your opponent where your model’s actual location is.

    So you can place them like this

  5. rvd1ofakind August 13, 2017 10:22 pm #

    Tbh, at this point I see one of the best and mkst fun daemons list as
    Malefulic lords
    Durable/cheap troops
    Maybe Magnus because of how good he is 3+ invul re-roll 1s, 38inch move k thx
    A ton of points in reserve
    This way the opponent can’t shoot down your big dudes turn one and two, and it takes actual skill to plan out what to summon where and counting points. And if you get charged turn one because you’re facing one of those armies, you can summon the best dudes to deal with them. I like it

    • rvd1ofakind August 13, 2017 10:25 pm #

      Oh and Changeling. Derp derp

  6. Don Tomaso August 14, 2017 8:26 am #

    Why does the warpsmith cost the same as a techmarine BUT comes with a free anti-vehicle smite power?

  7. Steve August 17, 2017 9:43 am #

    Please stop saying and ..ah.. so much. You will sound much more professional.

    • Petey Pab August 17, 2017 11:16 am #

      Ah, the art of Word Economy.

      My college debate coach would be so dissapointed in me.

      Thanks for keeping me on my toes.

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