Every unit has its up and downs and it all depends on how it’s used in a list. How do you use Dark Eldar Raider and Venoms?
6 thoughts on “Dark Eldar – Raiders and Venoms”
People cry about how underpowered DE is (and sometimes it seems that way), but they are a spoiler army. Rock, paper, scissors pretty much. I tried a quick 1500 game with my TSons vs my buddies pure venom list and I got tabled turn 3.
I had just figured with their new release my existing TSons models plus an additional investment into their new formation meant I couldn’t possibly be underpowered anymore, and that I should play nicely! How wrong I was.
Thousand Sons aren’t _awful_, but they are a long, long ways from the top of the power curve. More importantly, most of their advantages (like the 4++ save and AP3 guns) are meaningless against DE.
That said, DE _can_ be a spoiler army for certain builds, just not nearly as relevant of one as they were back in 5E. Pure DE- or majority DE- armies just aren’t strong enough or popular enough to have a significant effect on the meta as a whole. They can, however, contribute quite a lot to other armies via allying, most notably for the Corpsethief Claw alongside an Eldar or Corsairs army.
Well said AP! It’s funny because I originally bought the DE 5th dex for starting 40k, then after reading it and some forums thought they were too fragile for me to play as a noob so switched to Nurgle. I’d like to play them now that I have improved but… I just keep repeating to myself “MUST NOT START NEW ARMY! MUST NOT START NEW ARMY!”
People cry about how underpowered DE is (and sometimes it seems that way), but they are a spoiler army. Rock, paper, scissors pretty much. I tried a quick 1500 game with my TSons vs my buddies pure venom list and I got tabled turn 3.
What I’m hearing is:
> I played an underpowered, overcosted army vs another underpowered and overcosted army that also happened to be faster and bring more dice.
DE and Orcs need love
The song never ends π
I had just figured with their new release my existing TSons models plus an additional investment into their new formation meant I couldn’t possibly be underpowered anymore, and that I should play nicely! How wrong I was.
Thousand Sons aren’t _awful_, but they are a long, long ways from the top of the power curve. More importantly, most of their advantages (like the 4++ save and AP3 guns) are meaningless against DE.
That said, DE _can_ be a spoiler army for certain builds, just not nearly as relevant of one as they were back in 5E. Pure DE- or majority DE- armies just aren’t strong enough or popular enough to have a significant effect on the meta as a whole. They can, however, contribute quite a lot to other armies via allying, most notably for the Corpsethief Claw alongside an Eldar or Corsairs army.
Well said AP! It’s funny because I originally bought the DE 5th dex for starting 40k, then after reading it and some forums thought they were too fragile for me to play as a noob so switched to Nurgle. I’d like to play them now that I have improved but… I just keep repeating to myself “MUST NOT START NEW ARMY! MUST NOT START NEW ARMY!”