Tuesday Night Fight: War Convocation vs. KDK & Renegades!

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We’ve got a good fight lined up this evening! Reecius’ KDK+Renegades vs. guest John’s War Convocation! Tune in at 5:30pm PST to our Twitch Channel to join in for the fun.

This will be an interesting battle. Both armies are very flexible, having melee and shooting options. The War Convocation list has a lot of free points and tricks up its sleeve with Canticles and such while the KDK list can summon in powerful reinforcements and largely does not care about grav weaponry. The Dune Crawlers are problematic for any summoned Bloodthirsters and the Heldrake, but the War Convo will struggle to deal with the Khorne Hounds. The Dominus with the powerful Skryerskull will be a critical unit to deal with as he is a lynchpin for the War Convocation’s pnas for dealing with the Khorne Knight, who will otherwise run roughshod through their lines.

Who do you think will win?

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Deamonkin
Daemonkin CAD Size Cost
Herald 1 55
Herald 1 55
Bloodletters: Bloodreaver 10 105
Cultists 8 58
Heldrake 1 170
Flesh Hounds 15 240
Flesh Hounds 15 240
Chaos Knight: MoK, Dirge 1 435
Renegade CAD
Renegade Command Squad: Covenant of Nurgle, Ordnance Tyrant 5 85
Plague Zombies 25 75
Plague Zombies 25 75
Quad Mortars x 4 16 120
Rapiers x 3: Militia Training, Extra Crew x 4 11 82
Wyvern 1 55
Detachment Totals 135 1850
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John L’Heureux’ War Convocation:

  • +++ FLG Warcon 1850 (1849pts) +++
  • ++ Skitarii: Codex (2015) (AdM Adeptus Mechanicus War Convocation) ++
  • Onager Dunecrawlers x 2 (Neutron lasers, stubbers, and all the goodies)
  • Sicarian Infiltrators x 4 [Flechette Blasters and Taser Goads]
  • Infiltrator Princeps [Conversion field, Digital weapons, Infoslave Skull, Phosphoenix]
  • Sicarian Ruststalkers x4 [Transonic razor, Chordclaw, and Mindscrambler Grenades]
  • Ruststalker Princeps [Conversion field, Digital weapons, Prehensile Dataspike, The Omniscient Mask]
  • Skitarii Rangers x9 [Omnispex, 3x Transuranic arquebus]
  • Ranger Alpha [Arc maul, Arc pistol, Arkhan’s Divinator, Conversion field, Digital weapons]
  • Skitarii Vanguard x9 [Omnispex, 3x Plasma caliver]
  • Vanguard Alpha [Conversion field, Digital weapons, Pater Radium, Phosphor blast pistol, Taser goad]
  • Sydonian Dragoon [Phosphor serpenta, Taser lance]
  • ++ Cult Mechanicus: Codex (2015) (Cult Mechanicus part) (585pts) ++
  • Battle Congregation Rules
  • Tech-Priest Dominus (War Conv.) (105pts) [Conversion field, Digital weapons, Eradication ray, Infoslave Skull, Macrostubber, The Scryerskull Perspicatus, Warlord]
  • Kataphron Breachers (War Conv.) (150pts)
  • Kataphron Breacher [Arc claw, Heavy arc rifle] x3
  • Kataphron Destroyers (War Conv.) (165pts)
  • Kataphron Destroyer [Heavy grav-cannon, Phosphor blaster] x3
  • Kataphron Destroyers (War Conv.) (165pts)
  • Kataphron Destroyer [Heavy grav-cannon, Phosphor blaster] x3
  • ++ Imperial Knights: Codex (2015) (Imperial Knights part) (375pts) ++
  • Knight Warden (War Conv.) (375pts) [Meltagun, Reaper Chainsword, Stormspear Rocket Pod]
  • ++ Inquisition: Codex (2013) (Inq Inquisitorial Detachment) (99pts) ++
  • + HQ (99pts) +
  • Ordo Xenos Inquisitor (99pts) [Bolt Pistol, Force Sword, Liber Heresius, Power Armour, Psyker (Mastery Level 1), Rad Grenades, 2x Servo Skulls]

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28 Responses to “Tuesday Night Fight: War Convocation vs. KDK & Renegades!”

  1. Duh_Ruckus August 9, 2016 4:57 am #

    Love the concept of the kdk list, really strong attrition army it seems

    • Reecius
      Reecius August 9, 2016 5:54 am #

      Yeah, it should be a tough fight!

  2. tag8833 August 9, 2016 7:27 am #

    A renegade list without a Sorcerer Cabal, Fateweaver and a screamerstar? Heresy.

    The only reason renegades exist are to take the most broken parts of every codex.

    How’d you give the Knight +1 Invul?

    • Duh_Ruckus August 9, 2016 8:27 am #

      Legacy of ruin gives an aura of +1 to all daemon of Khorne units.

      • AStew2385 August 9, 2016 9:10 am #

        I thought you could only take LoR if you are Chaos SM?

        • Duh_Ruckus August 9, 2016 9:35 am #

          Nope forgeworld lets you take the chaos knight in Kdk CaDs, so it benefits from the blood for the blood God rule. You just have to take the mark of Khorne

          • Duh_Ruckus August 9, 2016 9:40 am
            #

            Oops you said LoR, I think forgeworld or ITC allowed it in a vote

          • Reecius
            Reecius August 9, 2016 10:01 am
            #

            You can take the Khorne Knight in KDK, I can’t remember the exact specifics off of the top of my head but we did rule you could also take the LoR for them.

        • winterman August 9, 2016 10:15 am #

          A knight can take LoR when it is in a CSM CAD. I don’t believe Forgeworld ever gave permission for KDK to take LoR though so I think the list is illegal unless ITC is going by some mystery email I don’t know about.

          • Reecius
            Reecius August 9, 2016 10:20 am
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            I will simply play without it, don’t want to cause a fuss and I don’t have time to look it up at present. I know we ruled you could, I just don’t remember when or how.

          • winterman August 9, 2016 10:27 am
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            Sorry if that came off as fussy. I am irritated with the state of FW FAQs on this stuff, not players who are trying to figure this out.

          • Reecius
            Reecius August 9, 2016 10:51 am
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            No worries, buddy. I just know that if anything is off in the list people will focus on only that. Better to just avoid the situation, now!

          • rgMarkon August 9, 2016 2:05 pm
            #

            I might be reading something wrong I dont know.. these kind of things have never been my strong side but…

            https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/fw_site/fw_pdfs/Warhammer_40000/Chaos_Knight.pdf

            It says there that A Chaos Knight dedicated to Khorne
            may be taken in a Codex: Khorne Daemonkin army, and in this case has the Blood for the Blood God! special rule.

            Again not sure if i am missing something?

          • Duh_Ruckus August 9, 2016 2:14 pm
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            Yeah I just looked it all up, the ITC ruled that chaos knights can take LoR, but LoR are only available to codex: chaos space marine, so of the current writing of the rules they kdk cannot not take any LoR.

          • Duh_Ruckus August 9, 2016 2:18 pm
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            It’s one of those just rules that’s dated

      • tag8833 August 9, 2016 6:26 pm #

        Ah, yeah. Legacy of Ruin. Silly me.

        One of my best buds runs a Khorne knight with that sometimes to buff his Khorne dogs against alphastrike until he can make them invis or grim them. Usually he grims the knight and invises the khorne dogs.

  3. Marandamir August 9, 2016 8:30 am #

    Can you take multiple units of plague zombies? I thought I read you can take 1 unit if you are a nurgle covenent.

    • Duh_Ruckus August 9, 2016 8:54 am #

      If you take the vraks army list, it’s as many as you want

      • Reecius
        Reecius August 9, 2016 10:00 am #

        Yeah, there are two Renegade army lists. It throws a lot of folks off.

  4. Heldericht August 9, 2016 3:42 pm #

    Really looking forward to this game. Reece has been hyping up his KDK/Renegades list here and there for a while now :p.

  5. Loofanator August 10, 2016 3:16 am #

    What book has the renegade rules? Id live to give em a try!

    • Bugs_n_Orks August 10, 2016 4:04 am #

      The army Reece is using is the Renegades of Vraks from The Siege of Vraks book. There’s a slightly different Renegades and Heretics army which has more unit choices and some different upgrade options which is in IA 13: War Machines of the Lost and the Damned.

  6. Nightman August 10, 2016 6:09 am #

    Can’t find the VOD

    • Heldericht August 10, 2016 7:18 am #

      It’s not up yet. Soon hopefully.

  7. DevianID August 10, 2016 10:21 pm #

    So the war con scryer skull doesnt work on grav or the knight, since it works on armor pen rolls (which grav doesnt do) and mechanicus forces (which imperial knights are not). I lost versus a war con player doing that at atc after he assured me thats how it worked, and after the game i looked it up and saw how the scryer skull was being played wrong.

    • RyanTSG August 11, 2016 11:08 am #

      Yep so many people play Scryer Skull wrong. I was one of them, then I saw in the FAQ that they cleared up a lot. The Skull only works on Skitarii and CM, not on the knight in a War Convocation. Also it only works on Armor pen rolls, not Haywire or grav rolls.

      There is actually not a lot that the Scryer Skull does! I find it is good to buff up Robots fighting knights, but thats about it everything else that Admech use that is anti tank is Grav or Haywire primarily.

  8. Diceskill August 12, 2016 11:30 am #

    The Rapiers cannot have more than 3 additional crew. Would be nice tho.

  9. Nidbits August 18, 2016 6:38 pm #

    How come no big artillery type units, like Basilisks/Earth shaker Cannons/Medusa Cannons, taken as part of the Renegades list? Are they not good? I would have thought adding an Independent KDK character with BFTBG rule to a big artillery unit, in order to get Blood Tithe points, would be the way to go!?!

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