Adepticon Tournament Report: Crimson Fists go to war!

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Hey everyone, Reecius here from Frontline Gaming to relate my Adepticon 40k tournament championships experience. Check the Tactics Corner for more great tournament reports.

Adepticon was a blast this year, we had a great time hanging out with friends, playing challenging games of 40k, selling F.A.T. Mats at our booth and just in general geeking out for 4 days. If you have not been to Adepticon, you should go! The staff are pros, run a great event and the energy at the show is very positive and fun. Thank you to everyone that came by to say hello! It was great meeting you all.

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I had a bit of a journey figuring out what I was going to play. Adepticon’s format is a significantly different from ITC format (which is what I typically play) and my main armies I actually couldn’t bring or didn’t want to due to the format. Right now I am having a lot of fun playing Space Wolves with some Forge World units that aren’t currently allowed at Adepticon, Chaos Renegades and Elysian Drop Troops which are Forgeworld army lists. Those are all verboten, so I had to build something a bit different. Adepticon format also really heavily emphasizes ObSec due to the nature of how they score objectives, so some of my armies like Decurion Necrons for example, I felt would struggle to win missions.

I bounced from Raven Guard (which would have done very well, but I couldn’t get them painted in time) to a Space Wolf/Space Marine mash up list to a Crimson Fists list at the last minute, writing the list about 30 minutes before I took off for the airport!

As the meta was sure to contain TONS of Eldar players (and they were seriously, everywhere!), I built an army that would be very good for fighting Eldar. Warp Spiders, Jet Bikes and Wraithknights were sure to be extremely prevalent, and the Crimson Fists list is good at fighting that and at winning the Adepticon missions as almost all of my units are ObSec. Lastly, it is a fairly unique list which is my preference to play.

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Crimson Fists 1850pts

Crimson Fists Gladius

Strike Force Command

Pedro – 1 185

Battle Demi-Company

Chaplain Auspex 1 95

Tactical Marines Melta Gun 5 80

Drop Pod – 1 35

Tactical Marines Flamer 5 75

Drop Pod – 1 35

Tactical Marines Flamer 5 75

Rhino – 1 35

Attack Bike M.Melta 1 50

Devastator Cents Grav, Omni, Missiles 3 280

1st Company Task Force

Sternguard – 10 220

Drop Pod – 1 35

Sternguard – 10 220

Drop Pod – 1 35

Sternguard – 10 220

Drop Pod – 1 35

Assassin Detachment

Culexus – 1 140

Totals 58 1850

A Demi-company, First Company Task Force (made ObSec by Pedro), and a Culexus. Pretty straight forward! The benefits were mobility, alpha strike potential, anti-Eldar power, and a fairly high model count for endurance.

Blood Angels

Round 1

Opponent: Blood Angels assault army list from memory:

  • Libby: Level 2, Jump Pack, Veritas
  • Sanguinary Guard x 10: Fist x 2, Axe x 2, Banner
  • Scouts x 5: Snipers
  • Tactical Marines x 5
  • Death Company x 10: Jump Packs
  • Assault Marines x 10: Jump Packs
  • Assault Marines x 10: Jump Packs
  • Assault Marines x 10: Jump Packs
  • Knight Paladin

Adepticon Mission 1

My first opponent had a very cool army! While it may not look crazy powerful at first glance, it has a ton of bodies, mobility and it hits hard due to +1 initiative and strength on the charge. This was actually a solid counter to my army and a pairing I did not expect.

The game was bloody and brutal! My Sternguard all came in turn 1 and unloaded with AP3 Bolters, rerolling 1’s thanks to their Chapter Tactics to avoid Gets Hot!, and took a huge chunk out of my opponent’s army. He countered by assaulting across all my lines, and the game boiled down to a vicious melee. He was able to erase Pedro and the Dev Cents with Sanguinary Guard (but to his credit, Pedro did take a bunch of them with him!), and the Knight Paladin was essentially untouched all game, and took a heavy toll on my army. My boys did their best but were outmatched in melee, hanging in their largely due to the Sternguard being Fearless. My Culexus was a stud, going into the enemy backfield and taking out the Obejctive Campers there before dying.

As the game wound down, my army was evaporating faster than my opponent’s, but as he had no ObSec and essentially my entire army was, I was wracking up points all game. I focused on simply keeping bodies on Objectives and impeding my opponent’s ability to move, or engage multiple units per assault phase to slow him down. Luckily for me, the game ended on turn 5, and I was able to win by a large margin despite my army getting fairly well creamed on the table. As we finished the game quite quickly, we played through to turn 7 for fun, and had it gone the distance, I would have had only the Attack Bike left, with a single wound, to hold my backfield Objective for a narrow victory! Again, at Adepticon, ObSec all day.

Big thanks to my opponent who was a great sport and good player.

Crimson Fists win: 29-1

white scar

Round 2

Opponent: White Scars Drop Pod Battle Company list from memory:

  • Captain
  • Chaplain: Hunter’s Eye
  • Tactical Squad x 5: Melta Gun
    • Drop Pod
  • Tactical Squad x 5: Melta Gun
    • Drop Pod
  • Tactical Squad x 5: Melta Gun
    • Drop Pod
  • Tactical Squad x 5: Melta Gun
    • Drop Pod
  • Tactical Squad x 5: Melta Gun
    • Drop Pod
  • Tactical Squad x 5: Melta Gun
    • Drop Pod
  • Assault Squad
    • Drop Pod
  • Assault Squad
    • Drop Pod
  • Dev Cents: Grav
  • Dev Cents: Grav

Flesh Tearers

  • Priest
  • Scouts x 5
  • Drop Pod
  • Drop Pod
  • Drop Pod

Assassin Detachment

  • Culexus

Adepticon Mission 2

I may have missed a few details on this list, but it was a massed MSU drop army with not 1 but 2 units of Grav Cents…yikes! This would be tough. Also, it was Kill Points, again, tough. Best of all though, he won the roll to decide who would go first or second….ouch! In Drop Pod on Drop Pod battles, the player going first almost always loses. This was going to be brutal.

I was a bit forlorn after the roll for first turn, but my opponent encouraged me to be optimistic as you never know how the dice will fall. That turned out to be good advice.

I dropped down my more expendable units, the 2, 5 man Tac Marine squads, and 1 unit of Sternguard. I also started my Culexus on the table on his backfield objective. He came in with half of his pods including 1 unit of Grav Cents but to my surprise, didn’t do much damage to me! The Grav Cents shot into a unit of Sternguard, but due to cover, only killed 7 of the 10 (I normally always combat squad, but in KP, left them at full strength for obvious reasons). My turn 2, my Sternguard dropped down and went ham, wiping 2 units with AP3 Bolters, and my Grav Cents + Pedro came in from normal reserves and wiped out his Grav Cents! The Culexus got busy too, tearing into an MSU unit.

The critical turn though, was my opponent’s turn 2. His second unit of Grav Cents with the Hunter’s Eye came in and went after mine. However, Pedro Kantor decided today was not a good day to die and tanked nearly every single wound! It was out of control, he took a full volley of Grav to the face and walked away from it with only 2 wounds taken…wow! His FnP Warlord trait was really useful. My opponent picked his jaw off the ground and then watched as my Grav Cents and Pedro “Ironsides” Kantor nuked them off of the table, too.

That was essentially game as my Sternguard were all eating a unit a turn, and Pedro + Cents were then able to wipe out 2 units a turn (due to split fire and assaults). In what should have been an ass kicking my way, a few lucky breaks and it was a landslide the other direction. Great game with an awesome opponent.

Crimson Fists win: 30-0

Minotaurs5

Round 3

Opponent: White Scars Battle Company played by my business partner, Frankie…doh!

  • Khan on bike
  • Chaplain on bike: Hunter’s Eye
  • Command Squad on bikes: Melta Guns, Apothecary
    • Las Cannon Razorback
  • Tactical Marines: Melta, C.Melta
    • Drop Pod
  • Tactical Marines: Grav Cannon
    • Rhino: Dozer
  • Tactical Marines: Grav Cannon
    • Rhino: Dozer
  • Tactical Marines: Grav Cannon
    • Rhino: Dozer
  • Tactical Marines: Grav Cannon
    • Rhino: Dozer
  • Tactical Marines: Grav Cannon
    • Rhino: Dozer
  • Attack Bike: M.Melta
  • Attack Bike: M.Melta
  • Devstators: Grav Cannon x 2
    • Rhino: Dozer
  • Devstators: Grav Cannon x 2
    • Rhino: Dozer

10th Company Strike Force

  • Scouts x 5
  • Scouts x 5
  • Scouts x 5

Assassin Detachment

  • Culexus

Adepticon Mission 3

I drew Frankie, the person I play every dang week, lol. Oh well, that’s the way it goes in later rounds of a tournament.

So, my army was built to fight other infantry armies, not mechanized infantry armies! I had the ability to shred infantry but I struggle to pop rhinos. The game started well, I dropped down, marked his bikes as my Preferred Enemy target for the Sternguard, vaporized them with poison 2+ shots, rerolling 1’s to hit and wound, opened a few cans and felt good. Turn 2 though, I had possibly the worst turn of 40k I have ever had, not killing a single model! I just rolled unbelievably poorly. The game was effectively over at that point as Frankie was in position to wipe out most of my army with massed Grav at this stage and I offered to concede, but he wanted to play another turn, so we did. It was ugly though, as the majority of my army went poof to the Grav shots, and were taken out of position to stop him from picking up progressive points, effectively ensuring him a max point victory. The one highlight was my Culexus pimp slapping Khan to death, but that was the only bright spot in a sea of suck, lol.

Turn three we shake on it as I don’t have much left and no ability to take objectives which meant he’d max out points over turns with me not being able to stop it, so not point in playing it out. So, my army met it’s match. I was unable to both pop transports AND kill infantry. I was good at doing only one or the other and without my turn 2 being as hot as my turn 1, I got creamed.

Crimson Fists lose: 0-30

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Round 4

Opponent: Astra Militarum list from memory

  • Command Squad: 4 x Melta Guns
  • Command Squad: 4 x Melta Guns
  • Priest
  • Platoon Command Squad: Melta Guns x 4
    • Chimera
  • Platoon Squad
  • Platoon Squad
  • Conscripts x 50
  • Veterans: Plasma Guns x 3
    • Chimera
  • Wyvern x 2
  • Wyvern x 2
  • Leman Russ x 2

Emperor’s Spear Aerial Company

  • Vendetta
  • Vendetta
  • Vendetta

Wow, solid Astra Militarum list! I dig it. This is an army that has the ability to kick you square in the dingus, has anti tank and anti infantry weapons in abundance. Not bad at all.

I got first turn and took it, dropping down the Sternguard in his face and nominating the Conscripts as my Preferred Enemy target. 25 of the Sternguard fired into the Conscripts with Poison shots, rerolling 1’s, and wiped the entire unit out! It was crazy, I killed 30+ (and the Priest) and with the -2 leadership modifier from the First Company Task Force, sent them packing off the board, eliminating my opponent’s bubble wrap unit. The other 5 Sternguard fired on an Infantry unit with Ignores Cover rounds, and also sent them packing, too! Not a bad first turn.

My opponent’s turn, he kicked me in the nuts, right back, lol! The Wyverns and Leman Russes just put the hurt on me, blasting Marines apart left and right. I answered back by assaulting with my remaining Sternguard into his tanks and started hucking Krak Grenades all over the place, but didn’t do as much damage as I hoped for. The game turned into a grind, with both of us smashing one another but I had positioned my ObSec Attack Bike, Tactical Squad in a Rhino and Dev Cents onto Objectives and kept him pinned back in his deployment zone. This allowed me to farm up a ton of progressive objective points each turn.

I was bleeding models quickly though, and my opponent’s turn 2, he came in with all 3 Vendettas in his formation and flew right at my Cents. He unleashed 9, twin linked Las Cannons and did zero wounds….wow. His turn three he went hell bent for leather and dropped into hover while disembarking his CCSs, giving me another volley with 9 more las cannons and 8 ignores cover melta guns, and only managed to kill 1 Centurion. Que sad trombone. My saves were hot, and this effectively sealed the game. It was a bold move and had it worked, he could very well have taken my backfield, getting back in the game but I tanked the damage and then went in to his hovering Vendettas and exposed CCS’s and smoked them.

In the end my assault force of Sternguard and the Culexus got mauled but kept him in his deployment zone while my defending forces managed to hold him off with a bit of luck, giving me the win.

Crimson Fists win: 30-0

game-over

Aftermath

I ended the tournament with 89 out of 120 battle points and finished 18th out of 184 players. Not bad! As Murphy’s Law dictates: gearing my list to be a meta buster means I don’t play any of the lists I geared up for, lol. Instead of Eldar who were everywhere, I pull two battle companies, Blood Angels and Astra Militarum, go figure! I had a great time though, and enjoyed playing the army.

If it were a different format where ObSec wasn’t so important (and ObSec saved my butt in every game), I wouldn’t take the Demi Company. It wasn’t bad at all, but I’d rather go with some Scouts, Quad Mortar Rapiers and other units that have more ranged anti tank punch, as that is what my list needed. Pairing it with some Librarians for Psychic Shriek and possibly the Skyhammer formation to take advantage of the -2 ld bubble would also be a lot of fun, and very good.

Thanks to all of my awesome opponents for making Adepticon such a fun experience!

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44 Responses to “Adepticon Tournament Report: Crimson Fists go to war!”

  1. Shifty41 April 6, 2016 4:59 am
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    Awesome write-up! Thanks!

    • Reecius
      Reecius April 6, 2016 9:04 am
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      Glad you liked it!

  2. Kartr_Kana April 6, 2016 7:37 am
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    Way to represent for Dorn! Though it’s kinda ironic that you didn’t have enough anti-tank using Imperial Fists Chapter Tactics 😛

    I love Sternguard but I usually play with Sentinels of Terra and the hard copy supplement says no Close Range Bolter Drill for special ammo which kinda kicks Sternguard in the nuts. Any idea if the e format supplement corrects that?

    • Kartr_Kana April 6, 2016 7:42 am
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      This would give you Battle Company stopping power 😛

      http://www.frontlinegaming.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=2545

    • Reecius
      Reecius April 6, 2016 9:06 am
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      Yeha, if Sentinels of Terra worked on Sternguard….holy crap! That would be crazy good. And I don’t have the digital copy so I can’t answer that question, unfortunately.

      • Nick W April 11, 2016 12:49 pm
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        Thanks for the write up and it’s always nice to read about CF in a tournament setting.

        If Sternguard had SoT rules, I’d basically only run a mix of Scouts and Sternguard. Scouts to start off with lots of dakka early, and Sternguard late.

        • Reecius
          Reecius April 11, 2016 1:21 pm
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          Yeah, I bet they do get updated for SoT rules in the neat future, if not in the upcoming Space Marine supplement.

          • Nick W April 11, 2016 2:02 pm
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            After reading over the list some more, my biggest question is about anti-air. Were you not worried about an apparent lack of Skyfire?

            I can’t remember a C:SM list in the last year with no Stalkers. In many ways Grav Cents can make up for that, while ironically reducing your anti-tank capacity

  3. Vercingatorix April 6, 2016 8:05 am
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    What bad luck! I would have much rather played you or the lists you played against than the eldar lists I pulled. Especially considering we had the same battle points literally every single round.

    • Reecius
      Reecius April 6, 2016 9:06 am
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      Yeah, I was planning for Eldar but I didn’t get any, lol. What did you bring?

      • Vercingatorix April 6, 2016 9:33 am
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        I was the orky daemon player. We talked briefly after round 3 after we both got our faces kicked in. I think I left my bag of food by your table!

        • Reecius
          Reecius April 6, 2016 10:17 am
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          Haha, yeah, right on! It was very nice meeting you.

      • Generalissimo_Fred April 6, 2016 10:15 am
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        How would you have tackled double WK? The Sternguard shooting wounds on a 2+ (poison) and I thought all poisoned attacked wound GMC’s on 6’s. Am I wrong about this?

        • Reecius
          Reecius April 6, 2016 10:18 am
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          No, you are correct. The Grav Cents were there for the WKs. I can take on 1 no problem, the second would be challenging but can only do so much. I can let 1 run around and kill the rest of the Eldar army to win the mission.

  4. DCannon4Life April 6, 2016 9:34 am
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    Great meeting you. Maybe next year I’ll have enough time to see if I can snag you for a pickup game.

    I agree that ObSec was extremely valuable in the AdeptiCon champs missions. Without directly nerfing Battle Companies (“Any vehicles in your army that you did not pay for are not scoring”), it was understood that they would do very well. One of the ideas of the missions, setting Battle Companies aside, was to see if Formation bonuses that make an army more ‘killy’ would balance out against ObSec (since the vast majority of formations do not grant ObSec).

    With Eldar having the hands-down single most valuable ObSec unit (Jet Bikes) and very point efficient units (undercosted, even), it’s not surprising that they made up ~50% of the top 16. I’m looking forward to seeing how the missions get adjusted (should be completed within the next couple of weeks) when they’re re-posted for general play.

    Cheers!

    • Reecius
      Reecius April 6, 2016 10:20 am
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      Awesome meeting you, too! Nice chatting with you. I had a great time at Adepticon, most fun I’ve had in the champs in a while, I think you all did a great job. Like I said, my only constructive criticism was that ObSec was a bit too important and made some lists very difficult to win with.

      But yeah, wow, Eldar everywhere, holy crap, lol. Adepticon is always like that, I find. Whatever the flavor of the month is, we se ein droves there. I wonder why that is.

      Anyway, you all did a great job! Thanks for the awesome event.

    • The Beckoning Stone April 6, 2016 12:53 pm
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      Man…. No obsec for models you didn’t pay for would be a fantastic rule for the community. And you know what? Battle Companies would *still* be amazing and do great on obsec.

      • DCannon4Life April 7, 2016 5:21 am
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        I can’t disagree. However, codex-specific nerfs (where nerf = completely rewriting a rule by replacing it with something clearly less valuable) are a big bag of dynamite.

        As valuable as those free ObSec transports were, I think only Frankie’s version made it to the top 16 at AdeptiCon. So, at the end of the day, Double Wraith Knight Jet Bike Spam > Battle Company. 🙂

  5. DennisH April 6, 2016 10:39 am
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    It was great meeting & chatting with you for a bit, as well as giving me the chance to personally thank you for the amazing paint commission I had with you guys a while back.

    Your voice, no pun intended, was hard to miss so my buddy & I had to say hello. Maybe, just maybe I lol be able to play you some day. Guard vs. Guard slap fight 😉

    • Reecius
      Reecius April 6, 2016 10:56 am
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      Lol, yeah, my voice is really distinct, haha.

      Great meeting you too, and glad you liked the commission we painted for you, that’s awesome to hear!

      I love Guard on Guard games, it’s like WWII in spaaaaace!

  6. Nathan Fluger April 6, 2016 11:36 am
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    I think it’s so lame you played Frankie. I mean, I can’t believe they couldn’t find a way to change that.

    Oh well, you did well, and that’s a credit to you. Well done, Reece.

    • Reecius
      Reecius April 6, 2016 1:03 pm
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      Thank you, sir! Yeah, it sucked playing Frankie, but what can you do when it’s round 3 in a tournament and we had the exact same battle score? It happens.

  7. Gunzhard April 6, 2016 12:01 pm
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    Hi cool write-up. I am curious how the BA player fared overall and in your game did he Deep Strike any jump-pack units or start everything on the table?

    Thanks.

    • Reecius
      Reecius April 6, 2016 12:54 pm
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      He started everything on the board and bum rushed me! Everyone getting +1 attack from the banner, made them seriously brutal.

      • Gunzhard April 6, 2016 1:06 pm
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        Cool thanks, I’m guessing his list would have a tough time against the popular Eldar meta, for that matter I’m curious how you handle them with Space Marines?

        My typical opponent brings WK (or 2), D cannons, a few Striking Scorpions and wave serpents with DAs… typically I am picked off rather quickly hah.

        • Reecius
          Reecius April 6, 2016 2:02 pm
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          The “normal” Eldar tournament list is Scat Packs, WK, Warp Spiders and an Autarch. Sternguard own Warp Spiders and Scat Packs, the Grav Cents can handle a solo D-Cannon WK, and my other units go for objectives. If the Eldar player reserves the squishy units, I have good odds of nuking them turn 1 and tabling them.

        • Dbiesto April 6, 2016 4:22 pm
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          http://www.frontlinegaming.org/tactics/ If you are looking for ways to beat them, skim over the articles for understanding, and then watch some of the battle reports to understand how people are playing them. I’ve been listening to the reports while getting my army ready to fully paint. I think Frankie goes into some detail about the Eldar armies he faced on Signals 421.

          • abusepuppy April 6, 2016 6:20 pm
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            I also have an article series in the works on dealing with some of the popular tournament lists; unsurprisingly, Eldar are gonna be in there.

          • Reecius
            Reecius April 6, 2016 6:33 pm
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            Looking forward to those!

  8. ColinSherlow April 6, 2016 2:07 pm
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    Nice report Reese.

    Is there an article with the best 40k player is the worlds army?

    I would like to see what he brought

    • ColinSherlow April 6, 2016 2:38 pm
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      Never mind

      Got the list…

    • Reecius
      Reecius April 6, 2016 2:40 pm
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      His tournament report will be coming, shortly!

  9. Novastar April 6, 2016 4:19 pm
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    So Reece went a fisting wearing the ole Crimson?

    • Reecius
      Reecius April 7, 2016 10:06 am
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      Indeed!

  10. Novastar April 6, 2016 4:26 pm
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    Would Kantor make the Sterngaurds Drop pods Obsec? As their battlefield role isn’t changed and Kantors rule specifies the SG unit and not a transport? Not saying you played or didn’t play that way I’m just curious

    • Kartr_Kana April 6, 2016 4:41 pm
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      No, Pedro doesn’t effect the Drop Pods because their Battlefield role changes to Elite not Sternguard.

  11. jy2
    jy2 April 7, 2016 3:07 pm
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    Great job Reece! 18th place despite getting massacred in one game is still pretty darn good.

    • Reecius
      Reecius April 7, 2016 4:26 pm
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      Thanks, buddy!

  12. John Ru242 April 7, 2016 4:15 pm
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    Whoot. Thanks for the write up. Enjoyable read

    • Reecius
      Reecius April 7, 2016 4:26 pm
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      Glad you enjoyed it!

  13. Keith Gatchalian April 12, 2016 9:39 am
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    Just for fun, what would your RavenGuard list have been?

    I’m a little confused, having not played a lot of 7th ed, but I keep seeing you cheer on having ObSec on everything, but wouldn’t units without it be able to claim objectives, just not if an Obsec enemy were near?

    • Reecius
      Reecius April 12, 2016 9:48 am
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      Raven Guard 1850pts
      Talon Strike Force Description Size Cost
      Battle Demi-Company Raven Guard
      Chaplain Auspex 1 95
      Tactical Marines M.Gun, C.Melta 5 90
      D.Pod – 1 35
      Tactical Marines M.Gun, C.Melta 5 90
      Rhino – 1 35
      Tactical Marines M.Gun, C.Melta 5 90
      Rhino – 1 35
      Attack Bike M.Melta 1 50
      Devstator Squad L.Cannon x 4 5 150
      Shadowstrike Kill Team Raven Guard
      Scouts – 5 55
      Scouts – 5 55
      Vanguard J.Packs, Fist x 2, L.Claws x 4, S.Shield, x 2 10 290
      Inquisition Detachment
      Coteaz – 1 100
      Skyhammer Annihilation Force Ultramarines
      Assault Squad Vet Sarge, P.Axe 5 110
      Assault Squad Vet Sarge, P.Axe 5 110
      Devastator Squad H.Bolter x 4 10 180
      Drop Pod – 1 35
      Devastator Squad Grav Cannon x 4 5 210
      Drop Pod – 1 35
      Totals 73 1850

      • Keith Gatchalian April 12, 2016 10:41 am
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        Very nice…thanks. I’m doing something similar, but no Skyhammer force. You have a lot more heavy weapons in your list…..plus Cotes….So 4 possible assaults on turn 1 or 2, Dev Gravs for the WK, HB Devs for scatbikes/warp spiders. Not as much Obsec though as your Crimson Fists….

      • Keith Gatchalian April 12, 2016 11:54 pm
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        Just a thought Reecius….drop one of the lascannons and take the Armor of Shadows on your chaplain. Gives a cover save to the Devs if they don’t move.