Signals from the Frontline #389

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Show Notes

11-16-2015

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News

  • The new Freeblades teaser video looks great!

  • Dropfleet Commander reveals some painted versions of their beautiful Shaltari ships.

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  • Bestiary 5 ships for Pathfinder! Be sure to shoot your order in to: Orders@FrontlineGaming.org to snag your copy!

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  • Puppet’s War shows off some complete kits using their miniatures, and they look fantastic with those bat wings.

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  • Toughest Girls in the Galaxy post pictures of new models in their range, Lt. Parker of the Jailbirds faction and Varanith, the Dark Riders Captain.

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  • Privateer Press show of a new Gargantuan! Blightbringer, for the Legion faction.

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  • Rick Priestly posts an article introducing the new game he’s been working on: Beyond the Gates of Antares. Very cool.

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Upcoming ITC Events

ITC

Rumors: The Rumor Section is gathered from the web and is not in any way information we receive from  any manufacturer nor is it necessarily accurate. This section of the podcast is intended for entertainment purposes only.

  • Mont’ka Rapid Insertion Formation: 3 Stealth Suits, 9 Crisis Suits, a Riptide and all with Drones.
  • Images of what folks are thinking may be a mini Warlord Titan for the new Epic! Also, rumors of Warhammer Quest and possibly Mordheim coming back!

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  • Tyranids getting updated to 7th ed in January??! Wow.
  • The Tyranids release window begins in January 2016

    This will be a Tau-style release with the following

    New codex

    3+ new units

    Several older resin models will be consolidated into a multi-unit build plastic kit

    1 new plastic Gargantuan Creature

    The Tyranid release window will include a Kauyon-style campaign book that details the Hive fleet’s struggle against their opponent.

    The campaign foe is Astra Militarum, Astra Militarum will be the followup 40K release window.

  • The GW website has a blue chaos star in their title, folks are guessing this might mean Tzeentch is inbound!
  • Also, rumors of Formation bundles coming in for Christmas, keep an eye out for those!
  • The awesome Archaeon model we’ve been seeing to be released soon for AoS.

Rant Session

Tactics Corner

  • Team Challenge at Game Empire Pasadena recap!

Rules Lawyer

  • We will be having a vote next week to handle a few of the issues that have come up lately: Tau’s Coordinated Firepower, Tank Shock and a few other odds and ends. Also, we will be adjusting the ITC missions a tad to fine tune the system a bit one last time before LVO.

Completed Commissions

  • Tabletop Standard Camp Grizzly commission!

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List Review

Primary Detachment: Formation:

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36 Responses to “Signals from the Frontline #389”

  1. Dbiesto November 16, 2015 11:00 am #

    I thought I read somewhere that you cannot take allies of the same book or maybe the ITC rules, but now I think I misread it. I must’ve been thinking about 5th/ 6th edition. So I can take 1 primary and 2 allied detachments, such as Chaos Daemons CAD, CSM CAD, and daemon allied detachment? Only tournaments I plan to go to are ITC so just confirming. That Ork list is solid.

    • Reecius
      Reecius November 16, 2015 12:24 pm #

      You cannot take an Allied Detachment that is the same faction as your primary detachment.

      • CaptainA November 16, 2015 1:04 pm #

        But you could do like a Formation CSM that has your Warlord in it which makes it your “primary detachment” and then take a CAD Daemons and Allied Daemons. Don’t think you would ever be able to do CAD/Allied/Allied unless both allies were different factions than the CAD as the warlord needs to come from the CAD asi tcan’be be from an allied detachment.

        • Reecius
          Reecius November 16, 2015 1:17 pm #

          Yes. It is quite confusing, lol.

          • Dbiesto November 16, 2015 2:00 pm
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            Ah, got it now. How embarrassing would it be to show up to the BAO only to be told I had to redo the list? Thanks for the clarification. I’m thinking of putting together a Nurgle Circus to get everything painted up nicely so needed this confirmation. ?. Especially because I’m finally going to another tournament soon ?

          • Reecius
            Reecius November 16, 2015 3:10 pm
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            No worries buddy, writing a list in 7th ed is pretty confusing.

          • Adam
            Adam (thediceabide.com) November 16, 2015 3:26 pm
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            A Battleforged Army is simply an army made up entirely of models that are in detachments or formations. There is literally only one restriction on that, which is an “Allied Detachment” (specifically the detachment by that name) cannot be of the same faction as your Primary Detachment (the detachment containing the warlord). It only really gets confusing when you get stuck thinking in past editions. 🙂

  2. iNcontroL November 16, 2015 11:30 am #

    tyranid rumors.. my heart.., oh my god

    • Reecius
      Reecius November 16, 2015 12:24 pm #

      I know, right?

    • abusepuppy November 16, 2015 3:05 pm #

      Don’t get your hopes up, every edition Tyranids are _supposed_ to get tons of new and exciting things that will finally fix the codex for reals this time I mean it guys and then the release hits and oh look it’s the Maleceptor and Pyrovore.

      • Adam
        Adam (thediceabide.com) November 16, 2015 3:27 pm #

        Just keep saying “Tyranid codex is coming soon” until you’re right. That makes you a reliable source of rumors, haha.

        • Dbiesto November 16, 2015 6:35 pm #

          ? Games Workshop please stop breakin our hearts ?

  3. X078 November 16, 2015 12:13 pm #

    So my interpretation of the “weak” ruling for the Tau CF will make a Drone Controller in the Combined Fire unit useless when CF’in with Drone units. Since it is a “shared” ability much like anything from the buffmander.

    • Reecius
      Reecius November 16, 2015 12:25 pm #

      Yes, you shoot the Drones before the Coordinated Firepower units.

    • abusepuppy November 16, 2015 3:05 pm #

      Basically, under the “weak” interpretation, shooting as a single unit is only really a disadvantage (bar the +1BS.)

      • Toranagaaa November 16, 2015 5:48 pm #

        Haha, in what world is having the choice of +1 BS and shared marker lights a disadvantage?

        • abusepuppy November 16, 2015 8:34 pm #

          In the world where you have to shoot 600pts of units at a single Rhino.

          • iNcontroL November 16, 2015 10:19 pm
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            I would say that would be a bad time to trigger the combined fire 🙂 Maybe not so bad when firing into a tough unit, deathstar, GC or Knight.. you know, those things most people are referring to when talking about when they use combined fire.

          • abusepuppy November 16, 2015 11:22 pm
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            Sure, there’s situations where it’ll be useful, but a lot of the time you don’t WANT to shoot three units at one thing because Tau hit hard enough that it’s a waste to do so. Yes, it’s hyperbole to say that it’s an actual disadvantage (since you’re never forced to use it), but when it’s the only bonus that the Contingent gets base, it means there’s a lot of times (i.e. any MSU army/target) where you’re essentially taking a formation with no abilities.

          • X078 November 17, 2015 12:10 am
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            Not only does a “weak” interpretation render the Hunter Contingent not worth taking it also fortifies the no-fun mono builds for Tau i.e. continue expecting shooty static gunlines + advancing Stormsurges.
            What the RAW or “reasonable” interpretation does is open up Tau for new meta, drone armies, msu etc which is awesome.

  4. theAlliance November 16, 2015 5:30 pm #

    in the Team Tournament, did Frankie have 2 Stormsurges? I thought these were LOW and there is a limit to one under the ITC rules?

    • Reecius
      Reecius November 16, 2015 6:06 pm #

      The last iTC vote allowed for a single unit of Stormsurge for Tau.

      • theAlliance November 16, 2015 6:15 pm #

        Awesome! have not played in an ITC event, yet. Speaking of which, I’ll be heading to the 40K tournament at the LVO – could I still vote on the next ITC poll? You could cross reference my name with my LVO 40K ticket.

        • Reecius
          Reecius November 16, 2015 6:22 pm #

          Yeah, we can do that.

  5. jy2
    jy2 November 16, 2015 10:31 pm #

    My cup runneth over….

    Now unless the new bugs get some type of rules to help them survive against Tau shenanigans, I’m afraid it will still by Codex Flyrant, Part Deus.

  6. Mirthless November 17, 2015 2:48 am #

    @Frankie: Do you have a list of your Tau army that you used in the tournament?

  7. Cail November 17, 2015 5:36 am #

    Hey Guys,

    We play ITC rulings for our gaming club, here in Cumbria, UK, and I also pass on praise of the system to other tournies/clubs I visit which don’t use the ITC system, and are modifying the game themselves. Firstly, keep up the good work, its growing success is a credit to yourselves.

    However my enthusiasm is dampened that you will need to have participated in a ITC ‘event’ to be eligible to vote for the rulings – especially as showing that the FAQ/Rulings are voted upon by the community, as the current system very quickly eliminates most worry about why the ITC rules are the way they are.
    Obviously the system is intended for tournies in general, but having a system that is voted on by ‘participants’ is a great way to standardise rulings in the casual club scene – Ruling out the knee-jerk home-rules that happen because one or two players have had a poor game.

    This is dampened somewhat by restricting the active participants, and unfortunately feels like the minority ‘trolls’/Troublemakers have forced your hand. The Gaming Club voters (no matter how small a demographic) will provide a moderate voice in the votes, in comparison to tournament players who will vote for what makes their lives easier. I have a feeling that the vote to continue allowing BA/SW not force Vanilla marines to lose their Chapter Tactics, is a prime example.

    Hopefully some constructive criticism that you will take on board.

    Cail

    • pretre November 18, 2015 10:05 am #

      I was unaware that the ability to vote was changing. Considering how widespread ITC rulings are used, I’m wondering if this is for the good.

      I play in events that USE ITC all the time, but don’t know that I’ve actually ever played in an ITC event (Checked the rankings, apparently I have). I’m just concerned of unintended consequences for everyone else who uses ITC if they can’t vote.

      Oh well, I’ll keep voting. Will the votes still be announced or is it an e-mail type situation?

      • Reecius
        Reecius November 18, 2015 10:14 am #

        Votes will be announced. And so long as you have played in an event that reported your ITC results, you are in our database. We’re doing this to stop folks from voting multiple times or from voting that don’t actually play in the ITC.

        • pretre November 18, 2015 10:47 am #

          Hey, thanks for the quick reply. I totally understand the issue of multi-voting and such. Glad to see you’re taking other folks into account!

          • Reecius
            Reecius November 18, 2015 11:11 am
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            Yeah, it’s a bit tricky, we’ll have to figure out a way to try and be inclusive without opening the door to the trolls.

    • Pyrrhus November 18, 2015 10:16 am #

      I want to mirror the above post. I’m also in the UK and we use the ITC FAQ for casual games as it’s impossible to play using only what GW gives us and the ETC FAQ has got some quite weird rulings.

      I always appreciated the ability to contribute to the ITC rulings and accepted the outcomes. It’s very difficult for me to play in an ITC event because there are very few here.

      I understand the ITC FAQ was designed for tournament play but it has developed into something that benefits the whole 40k community. I hope that this isn’t forgotten because of a few trolls.

      • Reecius
        Reecius November 18, 2015 10:28 am #

        Very good point, and we will try to work out a compromise on this. Hmm, we will look into including people registered to our site and folks who have bought a ticket to the LVO but are not yet in the ITC.

    • Reecius
      Reecius November 18, 2015 10:31 am #

      Hey Caill, thanks for voicing your opinion on this, and you make a valid point. We will see if we can include general ITC participants, too, not just those who have gone to a tournament, but that may be difficult to do. Perhaps those registered to our site or on our mailing list? We’ll work something out.

      • ligolski November 18, 2015 7:36 pm #

        I’ll join in as well for this. I’m on the East Coast of the US and there just aren’t many ITC events near where I live. However, I love to engage with the Frontline and ITC community and it’s the rulings I use with my friends! My plan is to attend LVO one day as well as other ITC events when I get a chance to. Hence, I want to be able to have input on something I could spend hundreds of dollars (possibly more!) on. ITC is more than just your official events, it is so much more than that! I think you really underestimate your reach and influence on 40k as seen by the people who have expressed the same thoughts as me.

        I understand the difficulty of this request and ultimately will still follow along, but I do appreciate your responses to those who have spoke before me on the matter.

        Cheers,
        ligs

  8. gorkamorker November 19, 2015 4:49 pm #

    The rules for the blight bringer have been out for a while,They are in the exigence book. It’s easily the best gargantuan and has pretty ridiculous rules.

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