Guardian Cup 8 – The Ocho – Tournament Review and Report

20150523_112032This last weekend, May 23-24, 2015, saw the re-occurrence of The Guardian Cup, a 2 day Grand Tournament hosted at Guardian Games in Portland, OR. I, CaptainA, have been the TO (tournament organizer) for the past few years and have been pleased to see it grow and change over the time I have been running the event. Here is a breakdown of how the event ran from a TO side of things and what went on behind the scenes of my baby.

Things to Be Proud Of

From my perspective things went very well. We set up Friday night in about 45 minutes and tore down in as much or less time. So a big thank you to all the helpers that came out and stayed to break things down.

I felt the terrain on the tables as a whole was strong with a lot of line of sight blocking terrain and even a themed Ork table from Sorienor. Terrain is always a tough spot as if you don’t have enough, it can really impact the meta of the event. Big shout out to Ordo Fanaticus for allowing us to use their terrain. It worked very well and I could not have done this without them.

20150524_164142Another aspect that I was pleased with was in selling out so quickly. We sold all 50 places and had 8 people on the waiting list. Things shook out in the end with us having 47 players as we had some last minute drops, but it is still a 25% increase from last year so that was some good growth.

The players themselves deserve a nice shout out as there was very little issues overall. There were a few little disagreements, but I had very little judging to do and attitudes were extremely low key which made my job easier for sure.

Lastly we gave out over $1500 in prize support, with $500 being cash for some of the top placers. Big thanks to our nameless sponsor who helped us give that $500 cash! I don’t know if we will have that in the future, but it was a cool surprise for me to give away. We raffled off the rest of the over $1000 in prizes and many people walked away with some big items such as $100 dollar gift certificates for the store and a copy of Execution Force. I was very pleased to be able to give so much away and keep overhead costs light.

We also had a guest appearance by a local cosplayer who came in his Chaos Space Marine outfit! Thanks Zachary!

Things to Work On

20150523_144548I found out that weekend that my projector setup is too old for my new laptop. Pairings went well, but I should have a printer for backup and or have tested it before hand to make pairings even smoother. My giant 17” screen made it easier, but I should have looked into that previously.

I know there were some pairings that made people a bit sad as they had to play guys from their own club a couple of times (sorry Gonzo!). I kept clubs from playing each other the first round, but turned that off for later rounds. My thinking was that keeping the clubs apart would give them too much of a favorable advantage, especially for Mugu and Team0Comp, which had 7 members each on their teams. Maybe next year have the first two games no clubs? I just personally feel that the integrity of the event falters a bit when I start messing with stuff too much as the players should play each other that have the closest scores in a swiss system.

Gamers don’t read the players packet! I need to make sure I cover everything I want the players to know before we start the day. It caught a couple of players off guard about the ITC end of turn sequence. I felt bad, but it was in the packet.

Armies and Factions

20150523_175050I was very pleased with the variety of armies this time around. Here is the breakdown of primary factions:

Blood Angels – 3

Chaos Space Marines – 2

Dark Angels – 1

Dark Eldar – 1

Eldar – 5

IG – 4

Imperial Knights – 3

Necrons – 5

Orks – 4

Sisters – 2

Skitarii – 1

Space Marines – 2

Space Wolves – 4

Tau – 3

Tyranids – 7

Grey Knights – 0

Chaos Daemons – 0

What a mix! Most of the armies were quite diverse even within their respective factions. Tyranids were the most similar with all the Flyrants, Orks had a lot of Bully Boyz, and for Eldar I saw a lot of Wraithknights and a lot of the Crimson Death Formation. It was a very good mix of armies and there was a ton of variety from the big picture.


20150524_155317I can’t say enough good things about Guardian Games. It is an amazing store and I feel very lucky to be a part of it. 8000 square feet of gaming with a bar? Yes please! I really tried with The Ocho to add value to the store. As a TO, you need to understand what your event brings and takes from your venue. A store is many things, but primarily it is the means to support the owners and its employees. Dollars speak volumes so I tried to get The Ocho on a weekend that didn’t compete with anything, especially Magic, so we could be an event that added more than it took from the store. Keep in mind that a store can use the same space that a 40k tournament needs and make many times more money by running Magic events.

In the end I was very pleased with how much money we brought to the store and with how much room we had for our event. The staff worked hard to accommodate us and it is a pleasure for me to host the Guardian Cup at Guardian Games.

Tournament Software

20150524_123923This is one of the parts of running a tournament that gives me the most anxiety. There are lots of ways to go about this, Excel sheets, third party software, hand written, etc., and I haven’t found one that really worked how I wanted it to. Each time, I poke around the interwebs and seek something that will do everything I want and this year I discovered Warscore is a free java based program designed specifically for tabletop miniature tournaments.


Probably the bottom line is that I am able to customize the software to record and report pretty much however I want and fairly easily to boot. I was able to add in club names, opponents, battle scores, primary armies (for Best Of awards), and even sports and paint for each round if I wanted to. With all of these things in place I was able to disallow rematches, not pair by club, randomize tables or start a pairing at a table, and more. This made matches very easy to pair and kept a lot of the issues that normally happens with similar types of software like having the top player always on table one.

It was also very easy to go back and change information such as people’s names, and not impact the rest of the system, or to add and subtract players as we went. I could also easily unpair and pair players if needed which happened once when a player was late. It all worked rather seamlessly so I was very pleased with how it worked. In addition, I could easily cut and paste out of the software into an Excel spreadsheet for further manipulation.


I’d say the cons of Warscore is in their online manual. I personally didn’t feel it explained well enough, but they did have a lot of example tournaments you could download and I used that to see how it worked and was able to figure it out myself.

Probably another con is that for a much larger tournament, you will still have to do data entry yourself, which could still make it pretty time consuming. For the ITC, where I was just doing battle scores on the software, it went pretty quick, but could get bogged down if I had a couple hundred players waiting to score.

In the end though, I was very pleased with Warscore and would highly recommend it to anyone looking for a tournament tracking software to use. Just play with it beforehand and test it out before to make sure you know what to do.

For Next Year

20150524_140410Next year I hope to  go up to 60 players, adding five tables, and trying to do six games. It may cost more as we would need to pay for the extra time for the store to open earlier, but I think it will be worth it. I also hope to secure more FAT Mats as they make a world of difference in my eyes on the tables. I also plan on doing pretty much every faction for Best Of awards as (don’t tell anyone) the trophies are not that expensive overall. It won’t take much to make sure every faction is represented.

I was beat, but I had a great time hanging out with friends, eating great food, and putting on what I thought was a strong showing. I hope to see you out for the next Guardian Cup or Guardian Cup Lite.

About CaptainA

Aaron is a longtime gamer of many systems. He is an avid community builder of 40k and after running many 40k events in Portland, Oregon, has recently moved to Boise, Idaho and continues to host and run leagues and events. He has also recently expanded his repertoire and entered the second hand Warhammer business. Check out his website at to see how he can help you get rid off your old and unused models.

28 Responses to “Guardian Cup 8 – The Ocho – Tournament Review and Report”

  1. Kwodd May 30, 2015 11:49 am

    Really bummed I missed it, sounds like it was an awesome weekend.

    • CaptainA May 31, 2015 4:43 pm

      Sorry you missed it!

  2. dr.insanotron May 30, 2015 11:51 am

    Cant wait till next years Cup!!!

  3. iNcontroL May 30, 2015 12:27 pm

    Was a fantastic tourney at a great store.. always a pleasure. You will get a car load of gamers from my neck of the woods each time you run one of these!

    • CaptainA May 31, 2015 4:44 pm

      Thanks mang!

  4. fluger May 30, 2015 1:15 pm

    I can’t believe I haven’t been to a Guardian Cup since 5th edition…

    • CaptainA May 31, 2015 4:45 pm

      It won’t be a true cup till we have the Fluger!

      Did I ever tell you that whenver I see your username I think of MacGrubber from SNL – The Fluger!

  5. jy2
    jy2 May 30, 2015 1:30 pm

    Next year, I will make an attempt to come to G-Cup. Sounds like a blast!

    • CaptainA May 30, 2015 2:04 pm

      Love to have you Jim!

  6. Kaintxu May 30, 2015 2:36 pm

    Can we see the lists somewhere?

    I’m really interested in seeing the top 3 or 4 Eldar lists

    • Jp May 30, 2015 4:55 pm

      2nd place eldar list.

      Eldar CAD:

      Farseer Skyrunner 115

      5 Windriders: 5× Scatter laser 135
      3 Windriders: 3× Scatter laser 81
      3 Windriders: 3× Scatter laser 81
      3 Windriders: 3× Scatter laser 81

      1 Hornet 80
      Crimson Hunter 140
      Hemlock Wraithfighter 185

      Wraithknight: Scatter laser 310

      Ultramarine Allie:

      Chief Librarian Tigurius 165

      5 Scouts: Scout Sergeant (melta bombs) 60

      3 Devastator Centurions: 3× grav-cannon and grav-amp; Centurion Sergeant (omniscope) 260

      Champions of Fenrus:
      Rune Priest: runic axe; melta bombs 65

      1 Servitor 10
      1 Servitor 10

      Drop Pod 35
      Drop Pod 35

      1,848 points

      • Kaintxu May 31, 2015 4:04 am

        Thanks Jp,

        Any reason for two drop pods?

        What about the others?

        • Jp May 31, 2015 7:16 pm

          Two drop pods is so I could bull deploy for 2bd turn or full scale first turn alpha strike.. Honestly 2 is my favorite number of drop pods.

          • Kaintxu June 1, 2015 3:48 pm

            Totally makes sense.

            What were u aiming for with tiggy and the librarian?

            Also I don’t own any centurions, so if u would have to replace all ur SM allies bit, what would u add as extra Eldar that would have performed well?

  7. Reecius
    Reecius May 30, 2015 5:38 pm

    Wish I hadn’t gotten sick! Sounds like it was a blast.

    Players don’t read their packets, lol, so true. I agree also, that you can’t stop club pairings after round 1, as you noted, it compromises the integrity of the event. Unfortunately, when you have a big club you end up playing each other. It’s inevitable.

    • CaptainA May 31, 2015 4:45 pm

      True Dat!

  8. Chapel May 31, 2015 9:58 am

    I had a blast and want to thank all those who put in a spectacular effort not only in setting up/tearing down tables, and running the event, but also to the great opponents I had in each round.

    • CaptainA May 31, 2015 4:46 pm

      It was great to have you man!

  9. MarkDawg May 31, 2015 3:36 pm

    I tried monkeying with that tourney software ARGH what a no fun experience. How long did it take you to get it up and running?

    • CaptainA May 31, 2015 3:56 pm

      After messing with the sample files, everything started to make sense.

  10. MarkDawg May 31, 2015 3:39 pm

    Someone really needs to make a user friendly tourney software soon I can’t believe we don’t have it in 2015.

    • CaptainA May 31, 2015 4:43 pm

      I think I might try to write a how to for Warscore. I really think it is a solid platform.

    • elphilo June 1, 2015 4:42 am

      Ive been using Torrent of Fire for about a year now with the monthly RTT I run and ive had no complaints at all. Pretty straight forward as well.

      • CaptainA June 1, 2015 6:24 am

        One of the issues I’m running into is that the wifi at the store is miserable. It is pretty much nonexistent at 6pm on a saturday.

        • Chip June 1, 2015 6:37 am

          That is, unfortunately, a requirement of the web application for ToF.

          We’ve run it using a mobile hot-spot very successfully. If the store has LTE coverage from a major wireless carrier, that’s an option. Just food for thought.

  11. MarkDawg May 31, 2015 5:00 pm

    That would be cool because I am time poor and the time it was taking to get that thing going was a non starter

  12. N.I.B. June 1, 2015 12:22 am

    Bla bla bla, who won?