Tonight’s Eldar Challenge Match: Khorne Daemonkin vs. Eldar! Starting at 7pm PST

Eldar Challenge

Tonight we’ve got Alan, with his Khorne Daemonkin vs. Reecius and his Eldar! Will the $250 finally be taken out of his hands?? Lists in post!

Deldar 1850pts
Unit Description Size Cost
HQ
Maugan Ra 1 195
Farseer Gem, Bike 1 130
Succubus WWP, Glaive 1 130
Troops
Jetbikes S.Laser x 5 5 135
Jetbikes S.Laser x 5 5 135
Warriors 5 40
Venom Splinter Cannon 1 65
Elites
Wraithguard Scythes 5 210
Fast Attack
Crimson Hunter Exarch 1 160
Raider 1 55
Avenger Shrine
Dire Avengers Exarch 10 140
Dire Avengers 10 130
Dire Avengers 10 130
Lord of War
Avatar 1 195
Totals 57 1850

(Alan has two allied Detachments, and we said it was cool in advance)

Lord: Jugger, Axe of Ruin, 4++

Cultists x 8

Cultists x 8

Heldrake

Heldrake

Khorne Hounds x 11

Soulgrinder: Flamer

Soulgrinder: Flamer

Soulgrinder: Blast

Crimson Slaughter Allies

Kharn

Cultists x 10

Chaos Daemon Allies

Great Unclean One: Greater Gift x 2, Lesser Gift, Mastery 3

Nurglings x 3

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42 Responses to “Tonight’s Eldar Challenge Match: Khorne Daemonkin vs. Eldar! Starting at 7pm PST”

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    fluger May 1, 2015 6:05 pm #

    Are you just trying to lose the 250? It seems like you’re taking some really suboptimal stuff here like the Avatar…

    • Reecius
      Reecius May 1, 2015 9:50 pm #

      I wanted to make it a challenge 🙂

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        fluger May 2, 2015 8:39 am #

        Hey, it’s your money, I just think you would’ve proved your point better by continuing to play the best Eldar list you could. Just my thoughts.

    • Adam
      Adam (Thediceabide.com) May 1, 2015 11:11 pm #

      I wouldn’t exactly call that an optimal KDK army either.

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        fluger May 2, 2015 8:38 am #

        Fair point.

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        bridges60 May 3, 2015 1:14 pm #

        Agreed 100% but good job to the Guy!

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    iNcontroL May 1, 2015 8:41 pm #

    fun!

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    Axagoras May 1, 2015 9:27 pm #

    REMATCH!!!

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    Thomas May 1, 2015 9:29 pm #

    Looks like a fun and diverse Eldar list. Great to see that new codex a ton of options.

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    Marsyas May 1, 2015 11:22 pm #

    That was an extraordinarily soft Eldar list.

    • Reecius
      Reecius May 2, 2015 12:16 am #

      Well, it was an incredibly fun game of 40
      k!

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        Marsyas May 2, 2015 12:39 am #

        Fair enough. Glad you guys had fun!

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    defl0 May 2, 2015 1:24 am #

    BTW – loving this twitch series. Keeping playing eldar against stuff using different units. Interesting to watch!

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    Siphen May 2, 2015 2:26 am #

    Hey Reece! Really enjoying these battle reports. The quality is great and they’re always fun to watch – thank you! I do want to say though, while I definitely like seeing varied Eldar lists, I’d honestly be more interested to see you playing highly competitive lists.

    I don’t think anyone honestly believes that 100% of the Eldar units are over the top. When you bring a bunch of Eldar’s low-mid tier units, it’s not really demonstrating anything about their power. It’s just you playing a decently powerful army and you happen to pay out $250 if you lose. I’m interested to see, from a truly competitive standpoint, if any army can give the Eldar a run for their money.

    Obviously, it’s a game and fun comes first. But these softer lists should be regular battle reports. Leave the “Eldar Challenge Matches” to the heavy hitters. I’d love to see you take on Flyrant spam or Ad Lance. Just my thoughts; I’ll keep watching either way!

    • Jason
      Raw Dogger May 2, 2015 8:02 am #

      I think a lot of it has to do with Reece playing with the models he actually has in the studio. No one wants to see a battle report with half assembled plastic.

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      SeekingOne May 5, 2015 11:43 am #

      Thing is, there are many people on the internet claiming that ALL stuff in the new codex is super good. If nothing else, this report hints that basic aspects are still crap, despite formation bonuses and stuff. And hence, unless you capitalise heavily on the most deadly units you’ll still end up with a list that is not really competitive. Just the same thing as with any other codex, really.

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    mathhammer May 2, 2015 4:29 am #

    @Reecius

    Could you post an article on the camera setups and what hardware/ software your driving it with. Want to start doing something like that down here in the big easy and I’m trying to spec out some hardware. Biggest difference is I want to mount the camera over the center of the table looking straight down.

    Thanks
    mathhammer.

    • Jason
      Raw Dogger May 2, 2015 8:02 am #

      Ancient Chinese Secret

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    Sunhero May 2, 2015 4:58 am #

    great game.
    two medium power lists but reecius still took some of the nasty stuff though d-scythes + bikes.

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    Malekith May 2, 2015 4:58 am #

    Hi Reece,

    I am really enjoying your twitch batreps, I think you’re on your way becoming number one on the internet!

    But I have to say the one model deployment shenanigans you pulled of against both daemon players is really not awesome. Of course you can “choose” to lose the initiative! It’s a very basic rule, I can’t believe none of you guys in the studio knew. You can look it up in the BRB under deployment and Standard deployment method: ” The player who DEPLOYED FIRST can choose to take either first OR second turn”. (Then you still can roll for seizing initiative).

    So unless you have a different rule in ITC regarding deployment this could have made a huge difference for the daemon player going second, e.g. the drakes.

    Best regards, a fan

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      winterman May 3, 2015 6:23 am #

      ITC uses 6ed style who goes first rules. This is also what the rule book recommends when discussing best way to do your own missions. Why they then do it differently with the whole choose thing in standard deployment is odd.

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    TrueKnight May 2, 2015 6:07 am #

    I really like the idea of as a codex comes out you guys play a ton of battle reports with it like your doing with Eldar against different armies using different builds.

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      fluger May 2, 2015 8:40 am #

      Yeah, let’s start seeing Skittari!

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    Sunhero May 2, 2015 6:17 am #

    this should have been the outro song
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_i1xk07o4g

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    Nightman May 2, 2015 8:03 am #

    Good stuff, entertaining game!

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    archied1 May 2, 2015 9:32 am #

    Was sorry to see you lose Reece – simply because this challenge has been so much fun to watch! Really cool concept – hope you guys do it again.

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    Pedant May 2, 2015 9:59 am #

    People really consider the Avatar to be bad… ?

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      rollawaythestone May 2, 2015 5:46 pm #

      You must be new to the internet.

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      Khezden May 2, 2015 6:28 pm #

      I’m not sure if folks thought the avatar was “bad”. But when you compare how much of a bullet magnet the WK has been in this series or how much of a force the Council has been/could be, replacing them with the avatar might not be considered as good.

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      droozy May 3, 2015 10:43 am #

      Is there anything that’s actually bad in the new codex? I think it’s just bad in context with the insanity of the rest of the book

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      SeekingOne May 5, 2015 9:32 pm #

      The Avatar is a slow-moving melee-oriented MC that can be killed in 1 shooting phase by pretty much anything, starting with massed lasgun fire. By itself it has always been bad. The only thing that made Avatar relatively ‘good’ was the combination of 4++ and guaranteed Fortune on a Farseer, that Eldar had in 4th and 5th edition. Being constantly Fortuned, the Avatar could advance and either still live for few turns to actually do something OR die but soak up enough enemy firepower in the process to still make his presence worthwhile.

      When 6th edition came, Eldar lost guaranteed Fortune, and with 6th edition codex Avatar got nerfed to 5++ AND went up in points from 155 to 195. As a result, in the majority of games it has become ridiculously easy to kill for its cost. Basically, it’s a waste of points now.

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    Crispy May 2, 2015 12:27 pm #

    I say for next should be Skitarii vs Eldar 😀

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    Matter May 3, 2015 2:36 am #

    I have really enjoyed watching theses games.

    Correct me if I am wrong but the new Avatar gets 7 strength 9 armoubane attacks on the charge, it seems like a waste to not try and get it into combat, of course many things could have been done differently.

    The discussion of potentially over powered units aside, there seems to be a lot of interesting/fun options for Eldar. For another hard-mode challenge, banshee/scorpion aspect host with the Avatar granting furious charge and rage ? 🙂

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    zed May 3, 2015 5:58 am #

    A link to the replay, please.

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    CabraChuba May 3, 2015 6:04 am #

    Hey Reece nice list

    I like the dire avenger shrine too but i didnt think you could run it by itself. The way I read it was that it was an auxillary choice and that you had to bring one of the 3 core choices to unlock the 0-12 auxillary ones. This seems to bring some balance as it forces you to spend a decent amount of points before you start getting the goodies. Let me know if you disagree because I would happily take the” auxillary” choices by themsleves without the “core” tax in order to run my all aspect foot slogging army like back in second edition only better 🙂

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    Blightstar May 3, 2015 6:47 am #

    Ouuuuch Reece’s dice really made sweet love to him from behind without asking for consent. Although, once again, he failed some stuff. On average 3 Dlamer hits wont wreck a soulgrinder so I dont know why he thought they would. Must have been the beer. If he would have positioned them differently and would have gotten 4 Dlamers there and then probably wrecked both of them.

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      Blightstar May 3, 2015 7:18 am #

      Oh and that Oxford Comma thing… I was laughing my ass off at that. Great game to watch.

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    Lucas May 4, 2015 9:31 am #

    Oxford comma only refers to the last item in a list, not the middle of the sentence. England’s sentence-joining rules are the same as ours. Haven’t read the exact wording on Daemonkin, but I think the intrepid challenger was right there.

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    Lucas May 4, 2015 9:41 am #

    Showing my ignorance again: Don’t templates always ignore cover?

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    Dom May 4, 2015 12:58 pm #

    Any way to watch the video later?

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