Game Empire Pasadena ITC 40k RTT Tournament Report

da sons of anorky

Yoooooo, party people! Reecius here to relate my recent ITC Tournament experience with my Orks: “Da Sons of AnOrky,” at the Game Empire Pasadena ITC event.

I love old school, one day RTTs. They’re just a blast. Jump in the ride with some buddies, head out to play some good games with old and new friends, and enjoy a nice day. That is exactly what this was! James, Kiwi Ben, and myself hopped into my truck Saturday morning and hauled up to Game Empire Pasadena which is an awesome game store for anyone in that area. They have a really strong community of gamers there, in a big, clean store with tons of product, and lots of food and drinks to be had in a short radius.

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There was a solid turnout for the event, too, 32 players! Not bad at all for a one day event. I brought my Orks which I have really been enjoying playing lately. Below is the list. Please note, this was a Broadside Bash primer event using their format at 2K. I also forgot a unit of Tank Busta Boyz, doh! So, I was forced to write a funky list using the models I had on hand with stuff I may not otherwise have taken. Some of that lead to some pretty surprising results, actually!

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Da Sons of AnOrky

HQ

  • Zhardsnark da Rippa
  • Warboss: Mega Armor, da Lucky Stikk
  • Big Mek: KFF

Troops

  • Warbikers x 5: Nob, Klaw
  • Warbikers x 5: Nob, Klaw
  • Warbikers x 5: Nob, Klaw
  • Warbikers x 5: Nob, Klaw
  • Grots

Elites

  • Da Bully Boyz
  • Mega Nobz x 5: Saw, Skorcha
  • Trukk: Raw, Planks
  • Mega Nobz x 5: Saw, Skorcha
  • Trukk: Raw, Planks
  • Mega Nobz x 5: Saw, Skorcha
  • Trukk: Raw, Planks

Heavy

  • Lootas x 15
  • Mek Guns x 3: Traktor Kannons

Game 1

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Opponent: Chris and his Wolfstar! Space Wolves and Grey Knights

Mission: Emperor’s Will + Modified Maelstrom

Chris is a tournament regular and a good player. He also had an army that had some nasty combos and is a pretty rotten match-up for my style of Orks. His army revolved around a vicious Wolfstar packed with characters, Strom Shields and strength 10 attacks. The real trick to it though, is that the unit will often have predominantly a 2++ due to the Storm Shields+Sanctuary from the Grey Knight Librarians. It’s vicious! This is a true Deathstar unit, and it is very fast. I knew I was in for an extremely difficult battle as my army relies on winning melee to win games and his army was straight up better than mine in assault. On top of that, he has 2 Dreadknights which Orks really struggle to deal with.

His list from memory:

Grey Knight CAD with Champions of Fenris Detachment

HQ

Grey Knight Libby

Grey Knight Libby

Wolf Priest on Bike (to give Fearless, Preferred Enemy and FnP 6+)

Wolf Guard Battle Leader: T.Wolf, Fist, Shield

Troops

Strike Squad x 5: Incinerator

Strike Squad x 5: Incinerator

Elites

Ironpriest: T.Wolf

Fast

Stormwolf: M.Meltas

T.Wolves x 6: S.Shields x 6, P.Fists x 6

Heavy

Dreadknight: Teleporter, Sword, Gattling Psi, H.Incinerator

Dreadknight: Teleporter, Sword, Heavy Psycannon, H.Incinerator

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This was going to be rough! The issue being that my main hitting unit, the Bully Boyz, get rolled by T.Wolves who kill me in one hit allowing me no save, while I need to do two wounds to them to kill them AND they have a 3++ or 2++. Bad news bears! I wish Orks could get any kind of invul at all, it really, really sucks that they cannot. It makes fights like this so difficult. That unit would be a bear, but combined with two Dreadknights, whom Orks have a serious problem dealing with, was going to make for a tough game to put it mildly.

My opponent won the roll to go first and gave it to me to have last shot at the objectives. He also got to counter deploy me, which he did quite well, lining up my largely immobile shooting units in direct line to his fast assault units.

He comes right at me, I put some meager firepower into him but he makes 3/4, 6+ FnP saves from my Lootas! Doh! I try to fan my forces out in a horseshoe, cupping the area I thought he would be in anticipation of hitting him with as much of what I had at once as possible while simultaneously staying out os his assault range. I sacrificed my Megaboss+Lootas to kill a Dreadknight. I was able to pull this off by grabbing the Big Mek out of the Mek Gunz unit and having him join the Lootas. The reason why, is because (stupidhead!) Dreadknights are Characters, and as such, can challenge. The sword makes them Strength 10, master crafted potentially with Force, too. That, plus a gang of attacks means a Dreadknight can charge a big unit of Orks, challenge the only thing that can reasonably hurt them (Nob with Klaw) and kill them before the swing, leaving the unit helpless and easily destroyed. Orks really HATE challenges, lol! They usually suck at them. So anyway, I brought along the Big Mek to bravely fall on the sword in the challenge and die, allowing the Warboss to kill the Dreadknight with his mighty Klaw+Lucky Stikk (which is an AMAZING piece of kit, btw)! That plus a few wounds from the Lootas shooting and assault netted my one Dreadknight dead. Nice! However, First Blood went to my opponent due to the Big Mek, and my Warboss unit with the Lootas was now hanging out in the breeze (which I knew would happen) and I positioned them to move block the Deathstar, buying me another turn.

His Stormwolf came in, but was promptly immobilized by the Traktor Kannons in my turn (way to go boyz!) who were subsequently smushed by the second Dreadknight (doh!). The Lootas and Warboss were obliterated by the Deathstar and now, most of my opponent’s army was in my deployment zone. I sent a unit of Bikes and Bully Boyz into his deployment zone to try and take his backfield away from him and go for his Emperor’s will objective.

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I hit him with almost all of my army now, as I had anticipated the situation unfolding. I didn’t have much hope for actually winning the fight, I was just hoping that with careful model positioning, I’d be able to reduce them and keep them tied up for a few turns. The ensuing melee was brutal, and actually went better than anticipated. Through some favorable model positioning, multiple units being in combat, and multiple initiative steps, I was able to soak a lot of the worst damage on sacrificial Bikers while getting my Bully Boyz into his vulnerable support characters. When the dust settled, he only had a few Thunerwolves left, and all of the rest of the unit was killed! However, my poor Orks were wiped out in the melee. I wish I could say I did it on purpose, but it was a bit of a fortuitous accident! model positioning is critical and I find it is the first skill you lose if you get a bit rusty.

Long story short, while I did kill a lot more of the Deathstar than I thought I would have, he still had more than enough left over to take my backfield with a wounded Dreadknight and couple of Thunderwolves. I took his backfield but wasn’t able to get to his Emperor’s will objective as the Bully Boyz closest to it, had their Trukk blown up just too far away, and they are not fast on foot. I had a surviving Trukk scoot onto an midefield objective to save a point, but that was my last act of defiance!

I ended up losing by 1 point, which all things considered, wasn’t too bad as this was a really tough match. I think with some better tactics I could have made a better showing of it, but it was a fun game and not as bad as it could have been by a mile. Good tips form this game: Boarding Planks ROCK! The extra 2″ of movement the turn you come out is incredibly good. It got me two long charges I would not have otherwise made. And a good way to avoid getting into challenges you don’t want to be in is to hang your Nobs back out of engagement range so you aren’t eligible, then step in at I1 to bop some fools with your Klaw!

Orks lose.

Game 2

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Opponent: Keith and his Grey Knights + Blood Angels

Mission: Big Guns + Modified Maelstrom

List from memroy

Grey Knight Strike Force, Blood Angels CAD

HQ

Grey Knight Librarian

Dante

Chappy with Jump Pack

Troops

Scouts x 5

Scouts x 5

Grey Knight Terminators x 5: Hammer, Psycannon

Elites

Sanguinary Guard x 5: Various Kit

Death Company x 5: Jump Packs, Various Kit

Purifiers x 10: Hammer, Incinerator x 2

Fast

Drop Pod

Heavy

Dreadknight: Sword, Teleporter, H.Psycannon, H.Incinerator

Dreadknight: Sword, Teleporter, H.Psycannon, H.Incinerator

 

More Deadknights, gah! Lol, the only two Grey Knights players at the RTT and I drew both, haha. But hey, what’s an Ork gonna do? Punch them in the dingus, that’s what!

Well, once more into the breach, dear friends! Another powerful, fast melee army to contend with. This game was largely going to be similar to the last in terms of the way it played out. However, I had a few Orky tricks up my sleeve! I got first turn, took it, and bum rushed my opponent with most of my army, leaving some mobile units to defend my backfield form the Deep Strikers I knew would be coming down on turn 1.

I positioned all of the Bully Boys and Zhardsnark’s unit into a large ruin on an objective, right in front of my opponent’s melee units hoping to keep his fast units in his backfield and bait him into assaulting me through cover. That way, I’d be able to at least swing simultaneously as the feared Dreadknights. Luckily for me, he took the bait! I was able to kill both Dreadknights within a game turn thanks to the Bully Boyz, but, the jerks took 8 of my heavy hitters with them on the way to the grave. Ouch! I then was able to grind down all of the Sanguinary Guard who with AP3 weapons, can’t funk with MegaNobz. Dante though…wow. Dante gave it to me hard, and didn’t event cuddle after. That dude is a murder machine, now. With I6 and a boatload of Ap2 attacks, he was hacking my poor Orkys apart with gusto! By game’s end he had smoked a truck load of my forces and I was only able to get him down to a single wound, but couldn’t finish him off. Death Company with a Chappy are suitably deadly, too. I was able to get them down to just a single wound on the Chappy, but at a high price. When the dust settled, all of the forces I sent into his backfield were dead apart form a single Trukk, and he just had the two characters with a single wound apiece. Brutal! Luckily for me though, that last Trukk that I had hidden in the corner after delivering the Bully Boyz, was able to flat out onto an objective to deny it to my opponent and give me Line Breaker.

Pirate Warboss Crop

In my backfield, where the other half of the game was happening, Keith had predictably dropped the Termies+Libby and Purifiers into my backfield. I had a bike unit, the Warboss+Lootas and Mek Guns to hold my lines. The Warbikers did a good job of not dying while soaking some firepower, and then killing half of the Purifiers (combat squads) before eating it. The Warboss with Lucky Stikks was a champion, tanking wound after wound and keeping the Lootas alive to paste enemy units with shooting. They also killed half off the Purifiers in assault. At this stage of the game, I felt mega confident. I was winning on Big Guns Points, had more maelstrom points and knew I would be able to win or tie the primary as I’d hold my two objectives, and Keith would have 1, the other contested or held by my Trukk. However, a comical turn of events was about to occur!

His Termies were sitting on one of my objectives, but well within range of my Lootas+Warboss who would walk through them in assault (no AP2 weapons). However, keith had the psychic power Vartex of Doom. As a last ditch shot before getting Klawed by the big guy, he fired it at my Loota unit, got the power off, rolled a hit, and then rolled two 6’s on the D table! The Closest Loota ate the first 6, then my Warboss, next closest, had to only roll a 2+ to LoS! the D slap to the next unlucky Loota in line. I roll the dice and, you know it, up comes that 1! Son of a !#$#@!!! That meant I had no way of getting those termies off of my objective.

I couldn’t believe it, lol, a sure win all of a sudden slips from my hands due to the dirty D! I was able to hold him off of my last objective keeping the game to a tie, but wow, that was amazingly frustrating! I felt that I played such a tactically sound game, only making two minor mistakes, and then a crazy unfortunate (or fortunate, depending on your perspective, haha) series of events lead to the game slipping from between my fingers. Ah well, them there’s the breaks and Keith was a great opponent and played a solid game. I enjoyed the match.

Tie game.

Game 3

Opponent: Adam and his Black Legion CSM

Mission: Modified Relic with Modified Maelstrom

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List from memory:

CSM CAD

HQ

Lord: Black Mace, L.Claw (used the awesome FW Horus model!)

Troops

CSM x 8: M.Gun, C.Melta, Fist

Dreadclaw

CSM x 8: M.Gun, C.Melta, Fist

Dreadclaw

CSM x 8: M.Gun, C.Melta, Fist

Dreadclaw

CSM x 5: M.Gun, C.Melta

Dreadclaw

CSM x 5: M.Gun, C.Melta

Dreadclaw

Fast

Hellblade

Dreadclaw

Dreadclaw

Heavy

Fireraptor

 

So this was a super interesting list! A complete Chaos Air force, never seen something like this and was looking forward to playing against it. Dreadklaws, for those unfamiliar with them, are Drop Pods that are also flyers and fast skimmers. So, they can scoot around the battlefield, burning units they move over with special sweep style attacks. It was a bit daunting as the vast majority of his army, the vast majority of my army couldn’t actually hurt! This was going to be interesting and I knew playing to the objectives would be critical.

I won first turn, and gave it to Adam as I wanted last shot at the objectives and to give me the chance to assault his units when they came down from flying mode to go for points.

The game opened up rough! His first Dreadclaw dropped into my lines, danger close, and hit! They have a special attack when they deepstrike that hits units in a radius with an Ignores Cover attack. He hit my best unit for taking down his flying circus with this attack: the Traktor Kannons. He killed 3 of the crew, just enough for a morale check. And, despite having the Big Mek, they failed that check, then promptly ran the 9″ distance they were from the board edge. Mother fuc….

So, there went first blood, my Big Mek, AND my best AA unit, lol. Not a good start!

However, despite that rough start, my numbers, mobility and the mission format forced Adam to come out of the sky, where my speedy Klaws made short work of anything that touched down. I had the Relic from early game to late, and surrounded the unit with it by other, powerful melee units, ensuring I would never drop it.

The Warboss with Lootas again went ham, dropping flyers with weight of dice and the Megaboss tanking wound after wound due to Da Lucky Stikk.

In the end, the Orks won a solid victory as the Chaos Marines just couldn’t get any traction. As soon as they set foot on the ground they got swarmed by Bikers and Bully Boyz. Adam was a great opponent, though, and we had a fun game. I do have to add, that in this mission, if either player held the Relic, each player turn a Strength 8, AP3, large Blast randomly hit the table, blowing stuff up. I really, really don’t like home brew mechanics like this in tournaments as they aren’t fun and can cause one player to win or lose the game which serves only to frustrate people. I know some folks enjoy this kind of thing, but IMO it belongs in a different context than a tournament, such as a narrative campaign where it can be a lot of wacky fun.

Orks win.

Conclusion

So, not my best showing, but had a really good time. 1/1/1, dead even, lol! I highly recomend this event though, to anyone that is thinking about going. You can pick up some ITC points and play in a cool store with a friendly crowd of people. Some of the wonky stuff I used this tournament due to forgetting my Tank Bustas were actually not bad. Boarding Planks, for example, rocked! I had written them off as to expensive, previously, but in practice, the extra 2″ to a charge can be game winning. James went 2-0-1 with his CSM/Daemons and Kiwi Ben went 2-1 with Dark Eldar. I was taking up the rear of the pack, lol!

A Necron Decurion Detachment won the event!

So, now to prepare for the BSB!

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Oh, and after the event, James took us to “The Hat,” which is a 60 year old dinner in LA. Seriously, the best Pastrami Sandwhices I’ve ever had! The Chili Cheese Fries were good too, but gave some serious bubble gut!

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34 Responses to “Game Empire Pasadena ITC 40k RTT Tournament Report”

  1. James Carmona
    kontraktkiller April 12, 2015 5:57 pm
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    hey hey hey….i was 2-0-1

    • Reecius
      Reecius April 13, 2015 10:56 am
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      Oops, sorry, correction made!

  2. biffomatic April 12, 2015 6:07 pm
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    What was in kiwi bens DE list?

    • Reecius
      Reecius April 13, 2015 10:57 am
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      I actually don’t know. He uses a Coven Detachment though, that’s all I remember.

  3. Gregorius42 April 12, 2015 7:37 pm
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    My son Jake has Beene try going to make his Bully Boyz work as they are very good but if their trukks get shot out from under them then they are super slow. He will be using some warbikerz too to provide another another distraction/threat. Instead of Lootas though he wants to run a mega dred, what are your thoughts?

    • Reecius
      Reecius April 13, 2015 11:00 am
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      Yeah, if the Trukks get waxed early, it can be pretty brutal. If you find yourself going second against a powerful shooty army and You cannot hide the Trukks, reserve them so that you at least know you are going to go 24″ up the field the turn they come on. Another option I have been considering is packing one unit of them into a Battlewagon, as the AV14 is so good in the meta, right now. It ensures you have 1 unit of the Bully Boyz that will often get across the table.

      I never leave home without the Lootas. They are so good. But, the Mega Dread is actually a solid walker. The AV13 is awesome, combined with the 5++.

      And yeah, you need threat overload with Orks, otherwise it is too easy to focus fire them down.

  4. MikeN April 12, 2015 8:50 pm
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    Great read man, thanks for the report!

    I feel your pain from your first fight here Reese, ive been fighting against huge roided up Thunderwolf lists for awhile now in local games and they are a beast to deal with using orks. Ive had good luck using Zhadsnark, painboy on warbike and Nob bikers as a pack to crunch them (you still need a bit of luck for that to work tho) but normal warbikers just die a violent death to them.

    Earlier today however I had a regen stacked Stompa decimate a herd of T-wolfs and their Venerable dreadnaught bodyguard. 😀

    • Reecius
      Reecius April 13, 2015 11:02 am
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      Yeah, that Wolfstar is rough for the Old Orks! I have been thinking about taking Ghaz, actually, to tank all the Fists for a turn with his WAAGH!! 2++. That should give the Orks enough time to actually do some work on the Wolfstar and make it a fair fight. Plus, having the entire army go Fearless for a turn is awesome.

      And yeah, I have a painted Stompa, may need to bust him out!

      • MikeN April 13, 2015 7:56 pm
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        I havent had -any- luck using Ghaz against the wolfstar yet sadly.

  5. Zero-Charisma April 13, 2015 1:09 am
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    man, i gotta learn how to play this game, that sounded like a blast and i’m just outside LA!

    • Reecius
      Reecius April 13, 2015 11:00 am
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      You should! It is so much fun, just a great game and a really good community of people that play it, too.

  6. iNcontroL April 13, 2015 10:26 am
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    No frankie 🙁

    Looks like fun… glad you are enjoying orks reece <3 you were pretty down on them at the start

    • Reecius
      Reecius April 13, 2015 11:04 am
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      Frankie went to the Padres game with Taylor so missed it.

      And yeah, the Orks are really fun, and really challenging which I actually enjoy a lot. You know how I get frustrated when I lose, lol, but I actually very much enjoy the challenge of playing an army that has weaknesses.

      Orks can get it done, you just have to play a very tight game and have a bit of luck. They are very unforgiving.

  7. Mr.MoreTanks
    Mr.MoreTanks April 13, 2015 10:56 am
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    Looks like fun, my grandparents live about a block away from the shop. I’ve always wanted to poke my head in there but never find the time when I’m visiting. Maybe this summer.

    Looks like you’ve got your act together with those Orks man.

    • Reecius
      Reecius April 13, 2015 11:05 am
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      You should check it out! Great store. And yeah, I made some mistakes with the Orks, but every game gives you more experience and confidence, you know? Playing the same list is really the best way to get better.

      Oh, and HAPPY BIRTHDAY, BROBOT!!

  8. Tommy April 13, 2015 1:14 pm
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    The only thing we actually both use are lootas, lol 🙂

    Fun reading about your biker heavy lists as it’s something I’ve always thought about but never tried. I’ve done Ghrisnak style lists, trukk/bw lists but my personal favorite is dread mob formation. Not too nor bottom tier list but great fun nonetheless.

    Hope to see more ork batreps mate!

    Regards,
    Tommy

    • Reecius
      Reecius April 13, 2015 1:35 pm
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      Yeah, I want to love Ork Walkers as the models are brilliant, but they really suffer in the rules department. The Mega Dread is pretty solid, but the others struggle.

      And when in the world isn’t the Morkanaut/Gorkanaut a Super Heavy?!?!?! Lol, such a missed opportunity.

      • Tommy April 14, 2015 9:11 pm
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        The FW dread mob is outdated, I use the dread mob formation out of the Ghaskhull supplement. It is by far the funniest and best looking army I know of. Ork walkers are on default AWESOME 🙂

        I run a blog and I’ve documented all of my games with the dread mob https://bigbossredskullz.wordpress.com/category/dread-mob-formation/

        A small plug but I’m one of the advocates for that list as people are kinda put off by it. And again no it can’t handle the top cheese but are all of your games like that?

  9. Captaintyphus April 13, 2015 1:26 pm
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    I am attending a large tournament in good old blighty in July, and have promised myself, I would take my Orks, but I will be using greentide, I went trukk list to the last event in January and came 95th out of 180 players, so this time looking to get at least top ten lol.
    can you give any pointers with what you have found is good to support the tide.
    At the moment I am running Zhadsnark with two squads of ten bikers big mek with lucky stikk and painboy on bikes to join the tide and maybe split off if needed for late obj grab.
    and two squads of ten lootas, 1850 points.

    • Reecius
      Reecius April 13, 2015 1:41 pm
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      Sounds like a solid list! The VSG is a huge benefit for the Green Tide, you may want to try that.

      Good luck! Let us know how it goes.

  10. Kiwi Ben April 13, 2015 10:23 pm
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    @ biffomatic, I ran a monster mash list with two coven formations: Corpsethief Claw with Haywire Blasters and Shred, Grotesqurie with 2×3 grots in raiders and a Haemonculi (as Warlord). I also took four venoms with warriors, 2x Razorwing fighters with the str 7 missiles, and a Succubus.

    The succubus runs with the second grot squad in a raider. She takes the AP2 stick for fighting 2+ armor bad guys. She also takes the Armor of Misery for a -3 LD bubble (when paired with the grots). The Haemonculi is the warlord because the Coven Warlord traits are all pretty good. Much better than the regular DE ones. The formations do the heavy lifting and the venoms grab objectives.

    I played three marine armies (white scars, 2x space wolves). The first guy beat me. He had 60+ marines. I couldn’t kill them fast enough. The two guys that lost couldn’t deal with the Talos. They got eaten. KB

  11. fluger April 14, 2015 9:39 am
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    “And a good way to avoid getting into challenges you don’t want to be in is to hang your Nobs back out of engagement range so you aren’t eligible, then step in at I1 to bop some fools with your Klaw!”

    Been doing this since 6th. Its the best way to avoid getting nobz killed unnecessarily.

    • Reecius
      Reecius April 14, 2015 9:59 am
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      Yeah, I think it is a necessary skill to develop with Orks if you don’t want to be constantly disappointed =(

      • AbusePuppy April 14, 2015 10:50 am
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        Being able to control how and when challenges do- or don’t- happen is very key in 6E melee combat. Especially with the changes, challenges are an amazingly potent tool for dealing with stuff that would otherwise be very difficult to stop.

        • Reecius
          Reecius April 14, 2015 1:03 pm
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          I agree 100%. Unfortunately, in my smallish Biker squads, i often am unable to pull many shenanigans.

          • AbusePuppy April 14, 2015 3:03 pm
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            Yeah, that’s definitely a big disadvantage to running them that way.

          • Reecius
            Reecius April 15, 2015 12:30 pm
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            Indeed. I have been feeling it quite a bit, actually.

          • AbusePuppy April 15, 2015 1:13 pm
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            The list I had mocked up used 3×15 and 2×5 as I recall, but that wasn’t running Bully Boyz alongside it. I think they combine well, but you’re definitely stretching yourself pretty thin with the list and it might be necessary to trim some of the components down.

  12. austonwithano April 14, 2015 11:36 am
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    Doesn’t Zhardsnark da Rippa prohibits you from taking Mek Gunz?

    • Reecius
      Reecius April 14, 2015 1:04 pm
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      Yes and no. He prohibits you from taking Big Gunz, but there is no unit called Big Gunz, anymore. So, it’s a grey area. I think clearly RAI is no, so I always feel a bit like a cheater face when I do it, but RAW it is clearly acceptable.

      I need to just ask the FW guys and make it clear.

  13. Bahkara April 14, 2015 8:50 pm
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    For those that may stop by, Tuesdays are normally 40K night but you can almost see a couple people playing almost every day. We run a 40K tournament every 2nd Saturday of the month. Check facebook for more details.

    Adam(game 3 opponent)

  14. Requizen
    Requizen April 15, 2015 12:22 pm
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    I’ve been plenty interested in Dreadclaws for a CSM army lately. Do you think they could make a halfway decent list even if it didn’t work out here?

    • Reecius
      Reecius April 15, 2015 12:29 pm
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      I think they could, but I think running fewer of them would work out better.

      • Requizen
        Requizen April 15, 2015 12:34 pm
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        Maybe like 1-3 for Assault backed up by a shooting base?