Signals from the Frontline: Warhammer 40K and General Gaming News, Rumors, Tactics and Jokes!

signals from the Frontline

Show Notes

3-15-2014

News

  • Crimson Slaughter! Discussion.
  • GW advertises the new Chaos Helbrutes in an interesting way…and I quote, “Unleash a Rancid Potpourri of Lunacy”…WtF?!
  • Puppetswar releases some very cool new models, check them out!

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  • KingdomDeath releases some cool new pinup girl miniatures in typeical KingdomDeath fashion.

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  • Lord Willingstone sent us some pics of his latest creation, a very cool Nurgle Daemon Prince!

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  • Warmahordes Wednesdays have kicked off! We had a bunch of Warmahorders in the shop enjoying the game. Reece’s Dwarves got owned as usual, lol!

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  • Forge World releases images of their new MECHANICUM MYRMIDON SECUTORS

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  • Heavy Gear releases a new sneak peak of their very cool Hoplite APC for Peace River.

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Rumors: The Rumor Section is gathered from the web and is not in any way information we receive from  any manufacturer nor is it necessarily accurate. This section of the podcast is intended for entertainment purposes only.

  • Rumors that the new GW website will be up in April integrating Forge World, GW and the Black Library.

Rant Session

  • More reports coming in about the Skyblight Tyranid formation. Nate from North County tried it out against Tau with the Tau Formation and obliterated them.

Tactics Corner

  •  How Forge World army lists will change the meta.

Rules Lawyer

List Review

He is British, says we should read his list in a fancy British accent!

Warlord Knight Errant

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Allies HQ Librarian

Troops 5 man tactical squad with veteran Sergeant with combi plasma and melta bombs  and plasma gun marine

Heavy support Storm Raven with hurricane bolters

Fast attack Storm talon with sky hammer missiles

Fortifications Void shield generator with three void shields

The space marines will use iron hands chapter tactics. This should be exactly 1750 points

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27 Responses to “Signals from the Frontline: Warhammer 40K and General Gaming News, Rumors, Tactics and Jokes!”

  1. Hotsauceman1 March 15, 2014 8:27 am
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    Really Reece? An “Office”? You sit in the corner with a computer.

    • Reecius
      Reecius March 15, 2014 10:45 am
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      That sir, is my office! lol

  2. Mark March 15, 2014 9:19 am
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    Dark Apostle only works for rolls during the game, not rolls before hand. Works kinda gimmicky with the Tzeentch Boon of Mutation. (For Beer games only!).

    Having played the Apostle quite heavily the last several months, he’s pretty decent with the 20-man blob squad. I don’t know if a 6″ bubble of Zealot is worth 30pts though… Just take the dude as-is.

    — My CS Opinions —

    The 2+ and IWND armour represents great value for points.

    The “turn dude into possessed” represents great value for points as well, consider that it gives a 5++ (due to the Daemon rule) so you don’t have to pony up for an Aura of Dark Glory. Dudes could potentially charge on turn two, especially if you put Huron in your army so you can infiltrate. (bottom of turn 1 charge o_O)

    ===

    Big fan of the Sorcerer in a unit of Oblits. Good chance of rolling perfect timing, otherwise, a fantastic unit to help keep him safe. Mark of Nurgle and Majority T5!

    Forgefiend with two hades that’s prescienced can now do a lot of things too (keep him close to the aforementioned oblits)
    1) Kill Fliers (2-3 hits at S8, pop Daemonforge and re-roll failed results!)
    2) Double Out T4 things (Tau Suits, don’t roll a “1” with your broadside! ohhh sadface)
    3) On average of 6 S8 hits… take that, Annihilation Barge on the first turn

    =====

    When plugging the Slaughter in as allies, the troops tax of Cultists …. may as well take a unit of Possessed for only 80 more points. That 130 points of guys can potentially threaten dudes on the ground. (especially if you infiltrate, see above) It represents a threat that must be dealt with. With Oblits, Forgefiends, or Maulerfiends in play, things are going to happen.

    • Reecius
      Reecius March 15, 2014 10:47 am
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      Yeah, you said it, dude. This is a game changer for old Chaos. You get so much. And yeah, we were referring to having a unit with the Dark Apostle on turn 1 for sure.

      I am stoked for this, I think this will make Chaos SO much better.

      • Mark March 17, 2014 5:59 am
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        Having played 3 games now, the Sorcerer with three Oblits is amazing. Nurgle Marked + Forewarning is dumb, perfect timing is amazing… They’ve killed
        1) 20 guardian blob squad
        2) Wave Serpents (Ignores cover… so good)
        3) Enfeebled Wraith Knight (had a plain sorcerer roll Biomancy)
        4) Necron Annihilation Barges

        While you can take a Forgefiend and prescience that (It’s good too), the Oblits do a very similar job, and are much more survivable, and can mow down other targets, and benefit from Perfect Timing (should you roll it).

        • Reecius
          Reecius March 17, 2014 6:51 am
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          I was thinking the same thing. Frankie tried him with spawn and it was brutal.

          • Mark March 17, 2014 7:57 am
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            4++ Prescience Spawn would be devastating. Especially with a lvl 3 bike sorcerer w\ the 2+ & IWND armour. He still gets challenged out though… Give him a force axe, and if he rolls precognition, he’d be a beast. Can’t mark the guy though or you have to take a crappy Nurgle/Slaneesh/Tzeentch power.

          • Reecius
            Reecius March 17, 2014 9:06 am
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            Yeah, I see no reason to mark the Sorcerer as you lose a roll on Divination and are forced to take a Chaos power, which largely are garbage.

  3. anonymou5 March 15, 2014 10:04 am
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    Reece, you know what Army benefits the most from ABG allies? What Army has one main weakness, enemy MCs that can tarpit it all day. Oh yeah, Screamerstar baby. Enjoy that combo, coming to a West Coast tourney near you =)

    • Reecius
      Reecius March 15, 2014 10:46 am
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      Yup, that is a good combo, no doubt. But, if you do that, you can’t take Be’Lakor!

      • anonymou5 March 15, 2014 5:06 pm
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        Not that any tournies let me use Belakor anyway. They all want to be like Reece Robbins, and nerf chaos anyway possible!

        Not that I run Screamerstar anyway. It’s a shitty build (and to think, I debuted it here almost a year ago!)

        • Chuck March 15, 2014 5:48 pm
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          I actually had a question about Be’lakor. With the “2 Sources” rule that LVO/BAO are using, does the Be’lakor dataslate count as one of the sources? Meaning if you take Chaos with Be’lakor you can’t take allies?

          Or are the dataslates that just add units into the FoC (Be’lakor, Cypher, the Tyrannic War Veterans) just going to be rolled into the codex as part of that “Source”? If so, maybe it should be more of a “2 Detachment” rule, where you can only ever have 2 Detachments, whether the second is allies, Imperial Knights, Inquisition, Formations, or whatever else GW decides is will sell models.

          • Reecius
            Reecius March 16, 2014 10:21 am
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            Things that function in the FoC will not count as a source. It is getting a bit convoluted for sure, but if you can take it in your primary detachment, we are counting that as a single source. Anything outside of FoC we are counting as a source, ie: formations, allies, Inquisition, etc.

        • Reecius
          Reecius March 16, 2014 10:20 am
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          We’re allowing Data Slates going forward. I am not the nerf king, lol!

          Screamerstar is a solid top tier build but it is fluky, if you don’t get your powers you can get owned. It’s an annoying build more than anything else and you can take credit for that sir, lol!

  4. dirgepiper March 15, 2014 11:45 am
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    Any news or rumors on the new helbrute dataslate? Supposedly there’s one coming out with helbrute formations

    • Reecius
      Reecius March 15, 2014 11:49 am
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      I have heard rumors that you can attach them to Cultists or deepstrike them in units of 3 but I don’t know yet.

      • dirgepiper March 15, 2014 2:56 pm
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        That’s what I’ve heard to. Was just curious. Deep striking helbrutes at least might make them a bit more viable

        • anonymou5 March 15, 2014 5:07 pm
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          You could maybe run a pretty cool armored assault with deep striking Helbrutes. Run Maulerfiends and a Soul Grinder Forward, deep strike Helbrutes. Gonna be a mean Turn 2 for someone

          *note I don’t even know what Force Org slot Helbrutes are in, and I own 3 of them (DV sets)

          • Mark March 15, 2014 8:07 pm
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            Depends on if the Formations require any specific loadouts. But if you get 3, 100 point helbrutes deep striking in (either Multimelta or 2xFists), someone’s backfield is going to have a bad time.

            I played 2 brutes the other day (Plasma on one, Autocannon on the other). Plasma one managed to assault and destroy a Landraider (got stunned by a lascannon, than rolled fleet & rage), the other tar-pitted Lord all game (Krak grenades are a tool of false hope)

            At low point cost, high volume, with threat overload (or at least, saturation), the AV12 Walker does what it did in 5th edition… kick ass.

          • Reecius
            Reecius March 16, 2014 11:01 am
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            Yeah, and use Icons to make deep striking safer and Scrier’s Gaze with Divination, maybe? That would rock.

  5. Prindlehaven March 16, 2014 1:22 am
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    You mentioned you wished you could give a biker lord with the 2+ armour/itwillnotdie artifact. A MoK Lord on a juggernaut gets +1T, + 1W, +1 A. Not quite as resilient as the nurgle biker lord but it has other benefits, the 4 wounds + itwillnotdie being only one.

    On a side note I entirely agree that this codex is what chaos needed, and what black legion didn’t deliver. I don’t regret the 30 bucks I shelled out for the digital edition.

    • Reecius
      Reecius March 16, 2014 11:02 am
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      Yeah, the JuggerLord is a beast but he can still get smashed to death so easily. That is my main problem with him, otherwise he’s a stud. The EW wargear in Black Legion helps him out a ton, though.

  6. Fister March 17, 2014 8:31 am
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    Well done! This is the best show you’ve done in quite a while. Humor, tactics anda great review of the meat and potatoes of Crimson Slaughter!

    You guys got me through a nasty traffic jam with a smile on my face. 🙂

    Thanks!

    • Reecius
      Reecius March 17, 2014 9:05 am
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      Thank you, sir!

  7. Mercutioh March 17, 2014 2:48 pm
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    Hmmm Dark Apostle in a land raider is a pretty big Zealot Bubble.
    Give that bad boy dirge casters and say sayonara to all the Tau overwatch sillyness.

    That’s really going to be something if the deep striking Helbrutes are true too.

    • Reecius
      Reecius March 17, 2014 2:51 pm
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      Unless the Tau just blow up the LR, first =(

  8. Adam
    Adam March 17, 2014 3:41 pm
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    I definitely think the biggest issue with the CS is the lack of a good daemon weapon. They get access to some sweet artificer armour, but unless you’re on a Jugger or Palanquin, that’s only a 3-wound model. If you take it on a Jugger or Nurgle Bike lord you’ll maximize your survivability (while moving 12″), you’ll only have access to the expensive claw/fist combo, no tasty axe of bloodshed, black mace or even the spineshiver… Time will tell, but if the CS sword was a daemon weapon that would have been awesome sauce.

    I agree that the IG Armored Company is going to be an interesting addition to the game, and with Imperial Knights, we might start seeing things like Fire Dragons come back.

    Oh and please don’t take out Skyblight, why would it be so bad to have another army be top tier? For the love of god it would be a breath of fresh air if something other than Eldar was winning events. 🙂