NSFW!! Necrons vs. Space Wolves 2,000pts

Video Battle Report

NSFW!!! Warning, if you don’t like videos with grown men acting immaturely, cursing, talking trash about each other, 40K, Necrons, Matt Ward, Leprechauns, Koni and Barf, DO NOT WATCH THIS VIDEO!! hahaha, you have been warned!

Oh yeah, and this is a really good example of why the Air Force armies will be king until we get more AA units out there!

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63 Responses to “NSFW!! Necrons vs. Space Wolves 2,000pts”

  1. Son Of Dorn August 14, 2012 12:29 pm
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    I hope we get that AA Whirlwind when DA do. Need something to butter those croissants with! 😛

    • Reecius
      Reecius August 14, 2012 12:37 pm
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      Haha, right? It’s a GREAT tournament army, buy wow is it shitty to play against for a casual game.

      • Son Of Dorn August 14, 2012 5:01 pm
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        For sure. Gonna need some allied Hydras and Vendettas to bring this crap down!

      • Son Of Dorn August 15, 2012 1:04 am
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        I also wonder, should you guys have more garrisonable buildings on the board? The new rules seem to make more of an issue of them being around, even down to armor 9. I could see hopping from building to building being annoying to an airforce list. Heck, this is the perfect game to field the Fortress of Redemption. They could hammer on it pretty hard, but it’s better than being in the open.

        • Reecius
          Reecius August 15, 2012 11:45 am
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          That’s a good idea, we’ll try that out.

          • Son Of Dorn August 15, 2012 7:33 pm
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            Sweet. I look forward to seeing it. With how resourceful you guys are at making awesome terrain, I’d like to see some nice buildings, direlect and otherwise, on the table. 🙂

  2. Ericbtjr August 14, 2012 1:06 pm
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    I have a buddy who plays an 1850pt version of this list since that’s the more popular points level in our area and it is REALLY tough. Daemons and Drop Pods can give it a real challenge though as they have a real chance at wiping out the portion of the army that starts on the board tabling the Necrons on turn one before they can get their flyers on.

    FYI, Hydra’s will only work if the guard player goes second and reserves the Hydras. Otherwise, if the Necron player has any idea of target priority, the Flyers will come on the board and wipe them all out before they get a chance to shoot.

    • Reecius
      Reecius August 14, 2012 1:11 pm
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      Yeah, the Hydras don’t have interceptor. Trying to kill the guys on the table is the best bet.

  3. Rich with GSI August 14, 2012 1:09 pm
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    The twin-linked vomit was the funniest thing I’ve seen in a long time! You guys have to do that again!

    • Reecius
      Reecius August 14, 2012 1:12 pm
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      Haha, right?! That was so funny!

    • Ericbtjr August 14, 2012 1:13 pm
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      Yeah, the vomit, though gross, had me laughing!

  4. Leeder August 14, 2012 1:56 pm
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    Yeah this army is not fun to play against. The higher the points get the more powerful it
    becomes.

    You should try the hydras, i have never tried against 9 but they didn’t do well in mass when i played against them as the squadron limits their effectiveness. vendettas are good as well but suffer from the same squadron problem.

    • Reecius
      Reecius August 14, 2012 4:11 pm
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      Exactly. I think IG has the best bet against this army of anyone right now.

  5. Axientar August 14, 2012 2:48 pm
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    As soon as you said the army lists I expected 1 (maybe 2) Necron unit to die, and Frankie get tabled.
    I went through and watched the rest of it to see the Milk Challenge, which was AWESOME!! 😀

    • Reecius
      Reecius August 14, 2012 4:11 pm
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      Right? hahaha, we take this stuff very seriously.

  6. Kralizak August 14, 2012 2:49 pm
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    I hate that army just seeing its destruction. If it were my choice, for tournaments it should count as Fast Attack instead of Dedicated Transport, OR the user of any army with that many flyers should have to do the milk challenge every game like you said 😉

    • Reecius
      Reecius August 14, 2012 4:11 pm
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      Yeah, and why is it only 100pts? That’s super cheap for what you get!

  7. Gonka Koff August 14, 2012 3:04 pm
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    Best ever!!!

    I am now looking forward to see the milk challange included in every future battle report.

    Wow, I thought the swedish salty liquoir vodka was Frankies soft spot, but apparently milk is even more effective!

    • Reecius
      Reecius August 14, 2012 4:10 pm
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      Haha, yeah, that horrible Swedish liquor was rough, but I think Frankie would prefer it to a gallon of milk!

  8. Haven August 14, 2012 3:20 pm
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enY771qAmvk

    Nobody wins in a dairy challenge

  9. Jochen August 14, 2012 3:38 pm
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    Hahahah, goddamn brilliant battlereport. I just don’t see why the milk challenge was written into the Necron codex, must have been a balacing issue.

    • Reecius
      Reecius August 14, 2012 4:10 pm
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      hahaha, right?! Because Mat Ward wants the game to be fair!

  10. Benji August 14, 2012 4:04 pm
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    It’s kind of a bummer I bought 9 flyers as soon as they come out because it was fun in 5th, now it’s just boring :/.

    • Reecius
      Reecius August 14, 2012 4:09 pm
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      I think it will be a lot cooler once we get some AA units!

  11. Jochen August 14, 2012 4:36 pm
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    When facing lists like this vulgar display of necron power i think we’ll have to revaluate even more what a “balanced” list means.

    Bringing things to handle the stormlord and deployed units (such as droppods etc) as you mentioned, reserving longfangs in razorbacks to bring them in for the “counter alpha” to atleast put a dent into the circus (since they are already snap-firing) and doing some deployment shenanegans splitting your forces, going for corners etc to force those flyers outta angle for next turn etc, especially since these guys only have 24″ range.. (will suck arse vs the vendettas ofc, as all things do…).

    Anyway, the point i was going for is to expect majestic lists as this and to be prepared for it, since not everyone have the awesome opportunity to actually get destroyed but an airforce in their local store, it’s great that you guys show off these things, jut for the sake of seeing it in action for real.
    Also as you always point out, it’s up to the TO’s to do balanced missions, imo this really will help balance the scale against all 6th ed bullcrap lists.

    And .. stormlord.. first blood… dafuq.

    Anyway.. keep it up.

    • Jochen August 14, 2012 4:40 pm
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      Kinda what i meant was, it’s not just pure volume of fire anymore, it’s where it is and how it’s delivered there that’s the key.

    • Reecius
      Reecius August 15, 2012 10:38 am
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      Thanks! Yeah, we like posting this crazy rap so people can at least prepare for what they may see and it is less of a shock. I think the Cron Air list is beatable but you really have to plan at least of your army for it.

      Glad you liked it, buddy!

  12. Jochen August 14, 2012 4:37 pm
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    *not edited for spelling errors…

  13. jy2
    Jy2 August 14, 2012 6:14 pm
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    I accept your milk challenge with my Crowe purifiers. I think they stand a slight chance.

    • Red Corsair August 14, 2012 7:09 pm
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      I would like to see it tried but I don’t think there is anything currently in print that has a fair shot at beating that list. Honestly any victory by other armies is going to be a product of fortunate luck and timing factor mostly, Necron fliers take no skill to use.

      For me what makes it the most unbalanced is the fact that it is a dedicated transport, no one else can bring 12 separate units of fliers with one FoC. I totally forgot that that stupid thing has a transport capacity of 15! So yea, it breaks zooming transport rules, protects the occupants, has a land raider crusaders capacity and averages 6 strength seven hits that can bounce onto other units…..Oh and it has living metal for only 100pts… W…T…F! I think it’s going to need to be house ruled down the line unless they errata the crap out of it. I am not a doomsayer normally either, the Necron fliers are literally that dumb.

      • Reecius
        Reecius August 15, 2012 10:37 am
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        I agree. It’s too cheap. And you can get too many. Mat Ward strikes again!

    • Reecius
      Reecius August 15, 2012 10:34 am
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      Haha, that would be crazy! I am actually allergic to milk, so I can’t. Perhaps a challenge of another sort?

  14. Red Corsair August 14, 2012 7:09 pm
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    Also I really want to see jy2 doing the milk challenge against reecius!

    • jy2
      Jy2 August 14, 2012 7:35 pm
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      I think maybe it’s time for a little payback by Frankie. 😉

    • Reecius
      Reecius August 15, 2012 10:36 am
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      I am allergic to milk, actually! First time I drank milk I went into shock. But I am down for another type of challenge, that would be funny!

      • jy2
        jy2 August 15, 2012 12:03 pm
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        I was going to suggest a kegger, but then you’d be working and I would have to drive back home afterwards. Lol.

        Ok, we will play for something else. I accept the necdar challenge.

        • Reecius
          Reecius August 15, 2012 2:17 pm
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          Haha, true, but that would be funny as hell!

          What’s a necdar challenge? Not familiar with that one.

          • jy2
            jy2 August 15, 2012 3:01 pm
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            Basically, scythe-crons are the 6E version of the 5E mechdar. Really tough to kill and super-fast. Only, for scythe-crons, multiply it by 2x. Ultra-resilient, ultra-fast and stupid-shooty. They are mechdar taken to taken to the extreme, but mechdar is probably to closest analog to scythe-crons from a 5E perspective.

          • Reecius
            Reecius August 15, 2012 3:37 pm
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            Ah, yes, I get it! I was actually thinking calling them Cron Air! hahaha.

            Also, I PM’d you on Dakka about your Daemons, they’re ready to ship if you are happy with them, good sir!

  15. Subs August 14, 2012 8:04 pm
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    John Mayer in the background, 2 Gallons of colored milk and all those Necron flyers……..I think I might just puke myself.

    • Reecius
      Reecius August 15, 2012 10:33 am
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      Indeed! It was a carefully constructed milieu!

  16. Deamonette August 15, 2012 12:53 am
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    The milk challenge was way too awe-arious and whata brutal game!

    • Reecius
      Reecius August 15, 2012 10:27 am
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      Yeah, that Cron list is ridonculous.

  17. Carl Tuttle August 15, 2012 7:15 am
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    Dibbs on a couple of Neils flyers 6 months from now when they are sitting on the shelf.

    • Reecius
      Reecius August 15, 2012 11:46 am
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      Haha, I told him that this was the boom stick until more AA comes out. It is going to just be dominating.

  18. Rantimus August 15, 2012 5:49 pm
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    Why don’t you use a storm talon, they are anti air, two with las cannons would of made a impact and the death ray can’t shoot flyers.
    Loved the video!

    • Reecius
      Reecius August 16, 2012 11:03 am
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      Glad you liked it, Cuz! And actually, the way we read it, the Death Ray DOES hit flyers. We can’t find anything that prevents it. And, to make things even worse, hahaha, it will auto-hit them! Doh! What are you reading that says this wouldn’t work?

  19. Shep August 15, 2012 7:51 pm
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    This is a perfect example of something that pro-active tourney organizers can eliminate from competitive play.

    The book missions only give a basic play experience, they don’t incentivize more interesting play enough. That is fine for the casual gamer, they rely on common decency to prohibit flyer spam like that.

    Please look in to a progressive scoring system for your next serious of tourneys. If there were always objectives in each game, and those objectives yielded points every turn that they were controlled rather than a lump sum at end-game, then flyers would self-regulate.

    If you don’t change victory conditions away from book missions (or amalgamations of multiple book missions) then flyers will dominate and create anti-flyer list archetypes, and the game will devolve back in to “do you have good flyers or good flyer answers? No? Ok, your codex can’t be fielded in a tournament.”

    • Merc146 August 16, 2012 8:12 am
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      The objective thing might work but not really as the opponent just plays to table the other……. Short of just banning these list I don’t see a way around it however no one has touched on vendetta armies doing the same thing. All in all it’s just a waiting game and if you do walk into atournament with no answer for flyers should you really be there?

      • Reecius
        Reecius August 16, 2012 11:08 am
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        We just haven’t had the time to show the Vendetta army, but it is damn near as bad (hell, possible worse, we haven’t tried it yet!).

        But yes, you MUST plan for Flyers in your list or be destroyed by them.

    • Reecius
      Reecius August 16, 2012 11:06 am
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      I totally agree, Shep. We’ve been playing tournament style games with layered objectives to prevent this type of thing. A KP game against this list is damn near auto-loss.

      Objective farming is a good idea, we may have to try that out.

      We don’t like banning stuff outright if at all possible, but we will endeavor to create missions that allow for as level of a playing field as possible. It just sucks that right now, you must either bring loads of Flyers or build your list to fight them.

  20. Aurenian August 16, 2012 5:05 pm
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    Awesome battle report. It’s good to see some people just having fun with the game.

    If I was going to NOVA as well with my IG I’d take 2 FOC and field this stuff for AA in addition to whatever else I buy for the main army:

    2 separate vendettas
    2 separate Hydras
    1 defence line with Quad gun
    1 defence line with Comms

    Leave the hydras and vendettas in reserve and get the rest of the army to hunker down in cover (which I have more of thanks to the defence lines). Put vehicle rear armour against table edges.

    Try and go second so their reserves come on first. Then use the comms relay to bring in reserves when I want them to alpha strike whatever flyers are in play. With a bit of luck I should be able to knock out 5 flyers before they can start to shoot back at the AA.

    The infantry in the army will go to ground as soon as they’re shot at because they can only snapshot the aircraft anyway. My IG usually have a fair few heavy bolters and autocannons that can contribute to AA, and “Bring it down” Can twin link them vs flying vehicles and monstrous creatures.

    With a bit of luck and some canny play that much AA might just be enough to draw or win against flyer spam and still take enough tools to fight the other armies at the tournament.

  21. Jeremy Veysseire
    MikhailLenin August 16, 2012 5:14 pm
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    Best batrep ewar!

    • Reecius
      Reecius August 16, 2012 5:30 pm
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      It is pretty hilarious! Haha, glad you enjoyed it.

  22. Paul Cornelius August 17, 2012 10:27 pm
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    Give me some oreos, and I’d have both those gallons down without problem!

    • Reecius
      Reecius August 18, 2012 10:38 am
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      Haha, 2 gallons? You’d be one dead duck, my good man!

  23. Brian August 19, 2012 8:54 pm
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    The Milk Challenge should be a requirement at every tournament….would lead to quite a interesting tournament scene

    • Reecius
      Reecius August 20, 2012 8:58 am
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      Haha, and a very gross scene, too !haha

  24. Flipmode August 20, 2012 2:03 pm
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    Really good batreps on here. Don’t play the game to this level but enjoyable to see how far the rules/lists can be stretched.

    I gave up on the game in 5th edition when I didn’t want to pay out to mechanise my Eldar, get a Seer council and chose to not use special characters (Eldrad). A couple of games against the Grey Knights reminded me of 2nd Edition power gaming and put an end to casual gaming for me.

    Hopefully when some more codices and flyer/AA releases will balance it out as we go on, and reports like this will get people thinking!

    Having come back into the game after such a long break, it really is amazing how much goes back to Matt Ward… Thought it may just be gamer RAGE at first, but the man really does seem to be on a mission. Codex creep has become codex avalanche.

    Anyway… Thanks for showing the fun that you can have, even with a broken list!

  25. Axientar August 20, 2012 8:14 pm
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    I just looked… This is now on the list of 5 most popular articles now! 😀 On it’s way to the top!

    • Reecius
      Reecius August 21, 2012 10:58 am
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      Haha, yeah, wouldn’t surprise me if it were the most popular, it is funny as hell.

  26. LucasW August 23, 2012 9:16 pm
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    Doomscythes can shoot behind themselves?

    • Reecius
      Reecius August 24, 2012 10:59 am
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      Not sure, honestly. I would argue that yes they can after reading the rules more closely. I think the start of the line must be in the forward arc of the weapon but after that it can go in any direction.