6th ed 40K Rumor Update

Rumor Stew! Mmmmmm.

More rumor goodness for you to chew on! My comments in red as usual.

-Hull Points are in, it is stated that Ghost Arks, Land Raiders, and

Defilers each have 4 Hull Points apiece. Necrons have the ability to

strip hull points for each roll of a 6 to penetrate/glance vehicles,

making rapid-firing gauss weaponry very powerful at removing armour.

Without more information it’s tough to say how this will work. Do AV14 get the bonus we read about or just an extra Hull Point? If the damage table satys the same it means they are more easily destroyed, which stinks as they go down so easily now. Crons will be crazy though, but I think that is obvious. 

– Speaking of rapid fire, you can indeed move and fire once up to the

full range of the weapon (it is explicitly stated that Fire Warriors

can fire their weapons up to 30″ away), no confirmation on the 3x fire

for Relentless at half range though.

Big fan of this. Making infantry better is awesome, IMO.

– Assault moves are indeed 2d6″, but added together. Units equipped

with jump packs can re-roll the dice to see how far they charge.

Still don’t like the randomness, but this is infinitely better than 2d6″ take the highest. You will still have situations where you roll snake eyes to lose the game from 3″ away which will be infuriating, but you could also roll box cars from 12″ away to win the game. I don’t like random, but I can live with this I think .

– The Rage USR gives you +2 attacks on the charge

Wowzers. Death Company just got a boost. I imagine Berzerkers will have this too, so I may actually play my Khorne army!

– All flying monstrous creatures have the ability to fly 24″, doing

something called a “Vector Strike”, which is a certain amount of

automatic hits to a unit they fly over, at the base strength of the

creature.

Very cool! This adds some serious AT power to Nids and Daemons which is awesome. Not to mention the increased mobility. 

– Monstrous creatures’ attacks are explicitly AP 2

Expected, and essentially what we have now. 

– Every army must select a “Warlord” or single general to lead the

army, this leader gets an ability. They can choose between three

different types of abilities, “Personal”, “Inspirational” or

“Strategic”. They then roll on one of those charts to see what ability

it is. The two examples given were a Grand Master giving all

friendlies within 12″ his Ld of 10 (Inspirational), and a Chaos Lord

being a scoring unit (Personal, the ability itself was called

“Immovable Object”)

Looked really cool until the “roll on chart” part. Sigh. Random is not fun when it is overkill. We’ll see how it works out in application, but I think this could be cool if all the options are good, which we know they most likely won’t be. 

– Flyers are a specific type of unit, and it is somewhat unclear as to

the rules for shooting at them. Either all units require a 6 to hit

them (unless they have a special rule called Skyfire), or this is

still the case but only if those flyers move flat-out. Monstrous

creatures with the ability to Fly also get this “6-to-hit” rule.

Could be cool. Not that many fliers in the game, so I can see this being fun, but it could be abusable, too. 9 Vendettas springs to mind. We’ll see how the rules are actually worded. 

– You have the ability to buy different terrain (it even has its own

slot on the new FOC), e.g, you can buy a Bastion with a Quad-Gun

(which has the aforementioned Skyfire USR). There seem to be quite a

few options for what terrain you can buy, but naturally most of them

are typically represented by terrain kits GW sells.

This is cool, IMO. I like interactive terrain to an extent (no spooky woods, please) and especially for scenario play having Bunkers and such would be fun. For potential tournament use, we’ll have to see as if we get something like the Folding Fortress, everyone will hate it vehemently. 

– Now we’re on the topic of the FOC, the rules for allies weren’t laid

out specifically, but it is heavily implied that its not the same as

in WHFB. They refer to allied units as “Detachments”, and there is an

example of a player with a Chaos Space Marine force having some

detachments of Chaos Daemons in his army. Basically, I was given the

impression that it is far more common (and frequent) for a detachment

from another 40k army to join a larger one, than it is for a Fantasy

army to have Allies. Think more along the lines of the Storm of Magic

rules for using TK, VC, or Daemons.

Cool thematically, but if not done right: game breaking. This is my biggest worry. I would love to see mixed Imperial and Chaos armies, but not at the cost of game balance and fun. 

– Here’s a biggie: Units -can- go on Overwatch, giving them the

ability to fire upon an enemy unit which charges them, but at BS 1.

Eldar (and any other army with access to the Clairvoyance psychic

power set) can use a psychic power to give a unit the ability to fire

at their usual BS.

This could be fun, but we’ll see how it plays out. The difference between shooting at BS1 and BS4 is HUGE though. Again, have to play it to judge. 

– Monstrous Creatures have access to a special “Smash” attack,

allowing them to halve their attacks, but double their strength. It

mentions that this gives them the ability to destroy tanks more

easily.

This sounds interesting in certain circumstances. Most MCs are already closer to Str10 than not, and doubling (unless it works differently) wouldn’t be a huge benefit. Maybe they no longer get 2d6 armor pen? Perhaps it will help with ID? We need more information to be able to tell. 

– It’s somewhat hinted that AP will have some kind of affect against

vehicles. This is because part of the Munitorum dice set includes

vehicle damage dice. It specifies that some of the dice are “AP 1, AP

2, and AP 3 Damage dice”, or something to that effect.

…..well, that could be interesting? It sounds like the way we damage vehicles is changing significantly. It is hard to analyze this with any sort of meaningful opinion without knowing more. 

– 4 Disciplines of Psychic powers, basically what we were thinking in

terms of Clairvoyance, Biomancy, etc etc. There’s a chart near the

back of the WD detailing which (if any) psychic disciplines a

particular army gains access to. It’s interesting to see that a large

amount of armies don’t have access to any at all.

This is worrisome. Some armies will struggle without pyschic support (looking at you, Eldar) and with some armies not having any, it can really stink. Random powers will most likely suck in a huge, giant way. That just straight up isn’t fun. We’ll see how it pans out, but this rumors doesn’t sound cool to me off hand. At all. 

 

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17 Responses to “6th ed 40K Rumor Update”

  1. Sean Ireland June 19, 2012 2:36 pm
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    It will be interesting to see how these rules are digested by the competitive scene. Will allies be allowed? Will terrain purchasing be permitted? Does this mean people will now bring terrain to events? Should be an interesting few months ahead.

    • Reecius
      Reecius June 19, 2012 3:10 pm
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      Yeah, it sure will. Considering a lot of this stuff is in Fantasy (although in a different form and format) and has been rejected, I would assume that would be the most likely occurance here, but that is just speculation. Time will tell.

  2. mercutioh June 19, 2012 3:11 pm
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    the whole (if any) disclaimer in psykers thing is REALLY going to be unbalancing. I get some people being better psykers than others but removing a whole type of unit from an army is just stupid They wouldn’t do that would they? Wait what? Nids don’t have vehicles you say? Hmm…..

  3. Chipstar June 19, 2012 4:47 pm
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    I got some info from a FLGS outside the US while he was on the phone with his rep who was reading the book. Some of it is corroborated, but some is very different. Its on the BWG site, if you want to read.

    • Reecius
      Reecius June 19, 2012 5:07 pm
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      Awesome, thanks for that, Chipstar!

  4. edwin June 19, 2012 5:43 pm
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    As someone who plays orks, this random psyker thing doesnt scare me. As long as the powers are potentially good as they can be potentially bad. Also, with this change, I think you will see the captain become at least a decent choice compared to literally everyone taking the librarians. Random at times can be imbalanced, but as long as it is the same for everyone, you will find that it balances itself out. When all psykers can be super, none of them will be. That’s the beauty of a common psyker power tables

    • Reecius
      Reecius June 20, 2012 9:55 am
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      That is a good point, Orks have random powers (random each turn!) and they can still make it work, although I think it is still more fun to pick which power you use.

      We’ll see how it pans out.

      • edwin June 20, 2012 10:41 am
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        Picking powers doesn’t work because you see the same 3 powers from each army. It adds a level of tact and depth that I often see in fantastic. You have to be able to decide right then and there how things need to go. Granted that fantasy has a little to much random in it, but a decent amount of random isn’t all bad

        • Reecius
          Reecius June 20, 2012 11:00 am
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          A lot of folks make that argument and I can see the logic. The only problem though, is that often GW put in a few terrible/nearly useless powers that make the random factor bad. If all powers were equally, or nearly equally useful, it wouldn’t be so bad. For example, Penal Legionaries are awesome, all their abilities are good!

          Possessed are the perfect example of the opposite. Some abilities are literally useless. Combat Drugs for Wyches is another one. Some of them are WAY better than others and it stinks to get a crappy one when you need a good one. It just isn’t fun, IMO.

  5. Benji June 19, 2012 6:44 pm
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    Eh I like the warlord thing, but random does seem dumb I think I’ll just talk to my opponents before hand and ask if they agree to just choose them. I’m keen to see what MCs can do.

    • Reecius
      Reecius June 20, 2012 9:56 am
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      Yeah, choosing would be way more fun as it allows you to react to the enemy and not roll up some useless power that doesn’t help you. That is lame, especially if your opponent rolls a really good one!

      And yeah, I am stoked to see what they change in MCs. Gosh, I hope they make them less easy to insta-kill.

  6. kalhoun June 20, 2012 2:16 pm
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    wow, the 24″ flight on MC/wings sounds great. Harpys might actually be able to drop bombs now.

    • Reecius
      Reecius June 20, 2012 4:26 pm
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      Yeah, think about Flyrants, Harpies, Blood Thirster, Fateweaver, etc. MC’s sound to be getting a big boost, which is awesome. If they make TMC’s proof against ID, or mitigate it, wow, bugs will be hugely improved!

  7. mercutioh June 20, 2012 4:37 pm
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    My main rival plays Nids….. I for one say bite your tongue good sir. whilst loading another rokkit.

    • Reecius
      Reecius June 20, 2012 6:31 pm
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      Haha, I just want my bugs to not be so easy to kill!

      • Wrath June 20, 2012 10:03 pm
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        They will always be easy to kill. What they need to be is effective.

        • Reecius
          Reecius June 21, 2012 10:41 am
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          I think the big bugs should be harder to kill, personally. Stupid ID weapons are everywhere and the big guys go down far too easily.