Black Dragons Army WiP

Captn Dees · **Joined:** Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:06 am **Posts:** 93

So this is happening I guess. I've gone from list making and theory crafting to the first steps of trying to figure out how to make this army on the tabletop. I'd like to try a bunch of things I've never done before with this army. Things like resin molds, home made transfers, and way more source lighting than I've ever done on an army. So this all might turn out terrible, or maybe it will be pretty sweet.

So first up came my first attempt at sculpting a shoulder pad. I've worked with greenstuff plenty but usually it is gap filling or really simple things like cloaks or scales. This is way harder! What the hell is that thing?! Certainly not a Black Dragon logo! :lol:

This is what you get when you try to sculpt it on the shoulder and probably used too much yellow as it was so soft. Even well lubbed fingers and tools and it still was a mess. Also I have no skillz.

Captn Dees · **Joined:** Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:06 am **Posts:** 93

Second attempt is certainly more Dragon-like. Sorry for the terrible picture.

Reecius · **Posted:** Wed Oct 30, 2013 11:38 am

Hahaha, go with the first one! :lol:

White925 · **Joined:** Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:33 am **Posts:** 164

Bahaha stick to painting brotha! let Keno sculpt for you.

Captn Dees · **Joined:** Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:06 am **Posts:** 93

If Keno has mad sculpting skills we should talk about that. I'm gonna try to do the 'wings' for the knee pads too, and I'm sure that will turn out not so hot!

Reecius wrote:

Hahaha, go with the first one!

Man that thing is terrible! It makes the 2nd look passable!

Reecius · **Posted:** Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:24 pm

Sarcasm doesn't translate through the web very well :lol:

Smallvictory · **Posted:** Wed Oct 30, 2013 5:04 pm

Is this for a home grown chapter or are the Black Dragons a from the fluff? I have actually had some success sculpting dragon heads on shoulder pads in the past (I was trying for a salamander) and have made moulds for all of my warband should pad symbols. Let me know if you want any advice/help.

Since I crave sweet, sweet distraction, I might just sculpt one up now to keep me away from the pain of painting........

Captn Dees · **Joined:** Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:06 am **Posts:** 93

Well up until a week ago I just always thought about doing some home brew chapter. The Black Drakes? Steel Dragona?

But as I started thinking about (or talking myself into) why I would take on a new project the challenges of doing an actual Black Dragon army was intriguing.

Of course expectations vs reality might come crashing though and knocking me down to a much simpler home brew chapter!

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Smallvictory · **Posted:** Thu Oct 31, 2013 8:12 am

I found the chapter in a WIKI and started this, the head is a bit too large I think so I stopped before adding back spikes but you get the idea. making the neck first and letting it dry before the head and spikes makes things much easier to handle on such a small area.

Captn Dees · **Joined:** Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:06 am **Posts:** 93

Good gravy that is so much better than anything I can do. Maybe I can get Keno to make me one and get taught how to do it because I don't think I can make this thing!

Smallvictory · **Posted:** Thu Oct 31, 2013 11:47 am

Not sure if you are local but I'm heading into the shop tomorrow to get a game around 12:30, I can show you how I did it. You can actually have his one if you want, if not it will just be added to some chaos trophy rack to mock you if we ever come across each other in a game

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Captn Dees · **Joined:** Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:06 am **Posts:** 93

I'm down in Livermore so you aren't so far away from me. I try to get in the shop one or two Friday's a month, but I can't make it tomorrow. I would definitely take pointers, the half done one, or a done one for sure!

My hope is to cast one done shoulder pad and make a bunch for the army (in addition to the little wing things the Black Dragons have for the legs). Of course that is another thing I've never done before so we'll see how well that pans out too!

nimrod451 · **Joined:** Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:56 am **Posts:** 50

hello Captn!

I was looking at conversion parts for my salamanders and thought you might be intersted in looking at these

http://www.ebay.com/usr/spellcrow - I have no affiliation with the guy other than I'm pretty impressed by the stuff I've gotten from him.. I used his Tabard sculpts on my Sally's and really like how they look. He does lots of dragon stuff..might be something your interested in for Black Dragons.

you can see the tabard there on my terminator.. its simple and they're little details but i liked them..and i personally am all for seeing some black dragons on the table!

Reecius · **Posted:** Sun Nov 03, 2013 12:38 pm

Yeah, those would be awesome for Black Dragons! Also, check out some of the Dark Elf fantasy kits as they have lizard skin capes and tabards and such that look really cool.

Captn Dees · **Joined:** Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:06 am **Posts:** 93

A little testing with Resin for the first time. Trying the little 'wing' things that go on the knees of the Black Dragons.

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I figured I'd put the bit of toothpick in there as these things are so small I would need some area for overflow that I could trim pretty easily.

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Aside from a bit of fuzz i picked up I think this looks pretty good!

Captn Dees · **Joined:** Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:06 am **Posts:** 93

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So even just mixing a little bit proved to be hard to get just in this tiny mold. I ended up using a paper towel to try to 'wipe' the excess off the mold so I could minimize some of the flashing.

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In the end there was still a bit to trim but not too bad! Nice fleck of dust I picked up. Use a clean surface for this stuff!

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And in the end pretty good I think! Of course I didn't leave well enough a lone and ended up continuing to trim the resin and kinda screwed it up, and I messed up the mold also. So I'm made a slight cut to one wing that looked a bit longer and going to make a new mold and try again. After a get a few more pairs of wings I'll do a bigger mold so I can start doing 5 or so pairs of wings at a time since it is hard to mix so little resin.

Reecius · **Posted:** Fri Nov 08, 2013 1:56 pm

Make a gun out of soap to break out of prison, and then I'll be impressed! 8-)

But seriously, nice work so far.

Also, look at using Daemonettes bits to add to the Marines for the horns and spikes, maybe?

Mercutioh · **Posted:** Fri Nov 08, 2013 3:54 pm

I think the problem with the original dragon is there were no Consumate V's involved. All good Dragons need Consumate V's

Also there's no Big Beefy Arm thing

Reecius · **Posted:** Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:47 am

hahaha, the Burninator! :lol:

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